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Mar 7, 2018 23:48
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The Big Market isn't real. I know. But there's different levels and he falls through several floors. Whats happening then? Is he just flopping on the ground? Are the tourists air stepping?
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Mar 7, 2018 23:52
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Thundercracker posted:I know. But there's different levels and he falls through several floors. Whats happening then? Is he just flopping on the ground? Are the tourists air stepping? Yes. By the way, Spielberg gave Robopocalypse to his best friend (who is also directing a movie from the writers of Life): http://variety.com/2018/film/news/michael-bay-new-movies-six-underground-robopocalypse-1202721030/
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Mar 8, 2018 00:51
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Thundercracker posted:I know. But there's different levels and he falls through several floors. Whats happening then? Is he just flopping on the ground? Are the tourists air stepping? He's playing a VR game.
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Mar 8, 2018 01:22
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It's really baffling how RP1 is popular and it's flaws overlooked when it's unforgivable elsewhere. The writing is worse than twilight, the cg characters look worse than battle Angel whosits, its references so pathetic they make family guy look nuanced, and plot insultingly stupid. It's so goddamn patronizing I can't believe anybody fell for it.
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Mar 8, 2018 01:23
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Uncle Wemus posted:It's really baffling how RP1 is popular and it's flaws overlooked when it's unforgivable elsewhere. The writing is worse than twilight, the cg characters look worse than battle Angel whosits, its references so pathetic they make family guy look nuanced, and plot insultingly stupid. It's so goddamn patronizing I can't believe anybody fell for it. http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/turned-apartment-arcade-article-1.1816727 The New York Daily News posted:But three things happened that would change Kooluris’ life forever: The apartment didn’t sell, he began feeling claustrophobic living in his girlfriend’s apartment with all her stuff, and he happened upon a sci-fi novel called "Ready Player One" about 1980s video game culture.
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Mar 8, 2018 01:29
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 that's incredible. I hate to enjoy something in the Daily News, but that's written so perfectly judgementally.
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Mar 8, 2018 01:38
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Uncle Wemus posted:It's really baffling how RP1 is popular and it's flaws overlooked when it's unforgivable elsewhere. The writing is worse than twilight, the cg characters look worse than battle Angel whosits, its references so pathetic they make family guy look nuanced, and plot insultingly stupid. It's so goddamn patronizing I can't believe anybody fell for it. It's not that it's popular, it's that so many professional literary critics who really should have known better gave it glowing reviews and high scores. This isn't something like Twilight or 50 Shades where it got really popular with a niche audience while being looked down on by the pros or something like The Big Bang Theory where 'real' nerds are rolling their eyes at the normies totally stealing their culture, just look at this poo poo: quote:“The science-fiction writer John Scalzi has aptly referred to READY PLAYER ONE as a ‘nerdgasm’ [and] there can be no better one-word description of this ardent fantasy artifact about fantasy culture…But Mr. Cline is able to incorporate his favorite toys and games into a perfectly accessible narrative.” —Janet Maslin, The New York Times
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Mar 8, 2018 01:39
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How did that happen  In one fell swoop integrity in professional criticism fell apart In 372 pages we'll never get back Mike Nelson said that the word "geek" has become as nausiatinly overused as the word "groovy" was in the 70s and boy was he right.
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Mar 8, 2018 01:42
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Because “nerd culture” is a pervasive cancer and “remember when... ?” is the lowest and most accessible form of conversation.
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Mar 8, 2018 01:45
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loving John Scalzi liked RPO!? I used to have a lot of respect for that guy.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:12
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:loving John Scalzi liked RPO!? I used to have a lot of respect for that guy. Scalzi enjoying it damns the book far more than all the explanations from others, at least for me.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:45
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I think it's a pity that Valerian apparently cut the bit of the backstory where Laureline is lierally a 16th century French peasant Valerian picked up in the past because he hosed up and broke Time Law, because knowing that bit helps sell the joke that Valerian is a Zapp Brannigan-esque meathead dumbass and Laureline is the one with actual sense.
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Mar 8, 2018 03:29
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My problem with the leads in Valerian is I kept forgetting they weren't brother and sister because they look so much alike.
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Mar 8, 2018 03:40
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Guy Mann posted:It's not that it's popular, it's that so many professional literary critics who really should have known better gave it glowing reviews and high scores. This isn't something like Twilight or 50 Shades where it got really popular with a niche audience while being looked down on by the pros or something like The Big Bang Theory where 'real' nerds are rolling their eyes at the normies totally stealing their culture, just look at this poo poo: 
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Mar 8, 2018 05:56
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Uncle Wemus posted:It's really baffling how RP1 is popular and it's flaws overlooked when it's unforgivable elsewhere. The writing is worse than twilight, the cg characters look worse than battle Angel whosits, its references so pathetic they make family guy look nuanced, and plot insultingly stupid. It's so goddamn patronizing I can't believe anybody fell for it. the good measure of whether or not it's a good book would probably be "if this didn't have a reference to everything white nerds between the ages of 28-40 love, would it still be a good story with good writing" and the answer is "super nope"
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Mar 8, 2018 06:12
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Ready Player One is merely too obviously bad, like Eragon, or Twilight, or the works of Dan Brown. It's the kind of thing that allows people to distract themselves from how terrible regular genre fiction is. All criticism ends up being repetition of the same facts and how stupid something that happens in the book is. Thundercracker posted:If they were going for this depiction I think they totally failed. He was way too johnny five aces competent and cool. A criticism like "confusing z axis in the interdimensional virtual reality market place" is not really persuasive. Thor: Ragnarok is a movie that homages Attack of the Clones without doing anything better.
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Mar 8, 2018 08:13
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Ya know who we need to showcase for this big battle scene? A character from a movie all about anti-violence and anti-war
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Mar 8, 2018 08:26
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The fun thing is how accidentally meta the book and movie is; pop culture being cannibalised by a fan who loves the sights and sounds and has absorbed none of the substance, and obliterating the chance for new generations to develop their own cultural icons by forcing context-free regurgitated nostalgia on them, having to obsessively memorise old mass-market entertainment or be left out of even the world of escapism.
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Mar 8, 2018 08:58
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Thundercracker posted:I know. But there's different levels and he falls through several floors. Whats happening then? Is he just flopping on the ground? Are the tourists air stepping? I'll have to watch it again though, I'm not sure what the interactions are. Big Market is introduced as being in another dimension but existing in the same space within the wall. The camera flies over the top as it fades into view and there's a large crack in the desert in our dimension, Big Market gets overlaid onscreen and the camera dives into it. The helmets and gloves let you interact with stuff in the other dimension but there's have to be a lift existing in our dimension in order to get down to those other shops... I dunno, never really thought about it. It was a cool scene though.
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Mar 8, 2018 10:58
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This is kinda funny since I always assumed Garland did direct Dredd.
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Mar 8, 2018 11:41
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Wandle Cax posted:A good movie can be made out of a bad book So can a bad movie.
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Mar 8, 2018 13:20
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I wonder why Garland kept it a secret. But that's really drat cool. Dredd is really drat cool. Also, http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/the-outsider-review-jared-leto-netflix-1201936536/
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Mar 8, 2018 14:42
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Rumor I heard is that DGA wouldn't let Garland take a directing credit on Dredd since he didn't have any prior experience.
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Mar 8, 2018 14:53
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:loving John Scalzi liked RPO!? I used to have a lot of respect for that guy. Unless you really hate the guy asking you you will always give a favourable cover quote for a fellow writer. Pay forward what others did for you.
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Mar 8, 2018 15:56
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Decius posted:Unless you really hate the guy asking you you will always give a favourable cover quote for a fellow writer. Pay forward what others did for you. the thing about John Scalzi is, while he's sort of nerdbaity in his own way and not a fantastic writer, a lot of his brand (especially nowadays after the Sad Puppies clusterfuck) is that he's an actual decent human who writes sci-fi. when people in the sci-fi community write or say horrible garbage he's usually one of the earlier people to call it out. that's why I worded my comment the way I did; I couldn't get through Redshirts either, but it struck me as distinctly less actually offensive than RPO, and he seems like an insanely good person outside of his writing. the fact that his reaction to Ready Player One was "THIS IS AMAZING" and he didn't pick up on, at the very least, how horrifically misogynistic it is, is... odd. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 15:59
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Whenever you are fantasy/sci-fi authors give glowing reviews to crap books, the explanation is most likely that they are genre authors and thus without taste.
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Mar 8, 2018 16:06
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I love when cover quotes or introductions written by another author/director/nerd are kind of backhanded and snarky. I remember one of the Hellboy collections having an intro that was all "Hellboy is a great comic even though Mignola gets x, x and x wrong and of course x doesn't fit the timeframe which is its strength."
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Mar 8, 2018 16:34
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Well, it's tracking for a $30 million opening so it appears we won't have to put up with it having any lasting cultural relevance.
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Mar 8, 2018 17:48
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Decius posted:Unless you really hate the guy asking you you will always give a favourable cover quote for a fellow writer. Pay forward what others did for you. Or if the author isn't asking for the blurb directly, often the author and the blurb-provider are with the same publisher (never disclosed) so the blurb "request" will come from the publisher.
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Mar 8, 2018 18:30
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Before the Bada. Before the Bing. There was a race riot? The Sopranos getting a prequel moviequote:David Chase is finally ready to return to the New Jersey turf of his iconic creation The Sopranos. New Line has purchased the screenplay The Many Saints of Newark, the working title for a feature prequel of The Sopranos that is set in the era of the Newark riots in the 60s. That was a time when the African-Americans and the Italians of Newark were at each other’s throats, and amongst the gangsters of each group, those conflicts became especially lethal. http://deadline.com/2018/03/david-chase-the-sopranos-prequel-movie-the-many-saints-of-newark-new-line-1202319202/
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Mar 8, 2018 18:53
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lelandjs posted:Heh. Like most things in RP1, it’s actually worse: Ernest’s self-insert is super excited to meet Art3mis IRL because her avatar is super hot, so therefore she must be too! But nope, she’s kinda dumpy and chubby but then he doesn’t actually care because Ernest suddenly realizes appearances don’t matter! I'm deeply against doing anything that could be perceived as defending RPO, but this isn't true. Her avatar is described as realistically reubenesque, but with weird features like a pointy chin that Cline apparently thinks are attractive? He's very clear that he is definitely not into her in an objectifying way, no sir, definitely not, and then he lusts over her repeatedly and has saved local copies of every image she's ever posted on her blog (OF HER AVATAR) because he's a well adjusted young man. Her Massive Physical Defect that she is very ashamed of and constantly tells him will repulse him is a port wine stain on her face. Otherwise, she looks very much like her avatar and is the zaftig woman of his dreams. He is able to look past this terrible deformity because he loves her for her heart and they have had many fun nights discussing their favorite episodes of Family loving Ties
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Mar 8, 2018 19:18
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Saw a commercial and while they went with a skinny actress she still has the birthmark on her face, which is a really stupid thing to keep. LORD OF BOOTY posted:the thing about John Scalzi is, while he's sort of nerdbaity in his own way and not a fantastic writer, a lot of his brand (especially nowadays after the Sad Puppies clusterfuck) is that he's an actual decent human who writes sci-fi. when people in the sci-fi community write or say horrible garbage he's usually one of the earlier people to call it out. that's why I worded my comment the way I did; I couldn't get through Redshirts either, but it struck me as distinctly less actually offensive than RPO, and he seems like an insanely good person outside of his writing. Redshirts is a weird book because the premise is fun (a young officer gets his first posting and discovers that the ship and its crew is somehow being influenced by a modern day sci-fi TV show and what's worse is that it is a very poorly written show) and I really enjoyed the early parts but once it comes time to end the story the whole thing just kind of falls apart because he doesn't have a good explanation for why things are happening the way they are.
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Mar 8, 2018 21:13
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ALFbrot posted:I'm deeply against doing anything that could be perceived as defending RPO, but this isn't true. Her avatar is described as realistically reubenesque, but with weird features like a pointy chin that Cline apparently thinks are attractive? He's very clear that he is definitely not into her in an objectifying way, no sir, definitely not, and then he lusts over her repeatedly and has saved local copies of every image she's ever posted on her blog (OF HER AVATAR) because he's a well adjusted young man. It makes me feel bad but then I remember his..."poetry"
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Mar 8, 2018 21:20
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feedmyleg posted:Well, it's tracking for a $30 million opening so it appears we won't have to put up with it having any lasting cultural relevance. Somehow, though out all the discussion of RPO I forgot that it was an actual film that was actually being released in theaters. Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 21:26
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feedmyleg posted:Well, it's tracking for a $30 million opening so it appears we won't have to put up with it having any lasting cultural relevance. a modern Buckaroo Banzai
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Mar 8, 2018 22:39
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*pathetic fart noises*
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Mar 8, 2018 22:41
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Hat Thoughts posted:a modern Buckaroo Banzai I am convinced that if Peter Weller & Pals finally got to make Buckaroo Banzai Against The World Crime League, it would have a better theatrical run than this garbage.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:42
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Let Weller co-write it so it can include an elaborate thesis comparing the current political climate to The Council of Clermont.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:59
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Buckaroo Banzai is good.
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