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Khisanth Magus posted:That would work too, and a second source of smoke can also help you get up the board. Played with the revised list, I think I'm gonna give up on the Hac Tao, stick to Hsien and Smoke. Surprise Shot + TO Camo is great, but order intensive and I don't have the orders to make use of it.
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So, Bostria said that nu-JSA is one of the 5 sectorials, so Invincible army is pretty much 100% shifted to next year or never, cool cool  good time to collect a proper army of chinese judge dredds instead
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Flipswitch posted:Baiting people into picking the bad choice. This my local group apparently. Apparently Mobile Brigada are a hulking backboard rock-like presence while Riot Grrls are meant to be midfield hunters and both have a place in StarCo. Instead of y'know, one being an overly expensive, bog standard, boring HI unit while the other choice makes most HI in the game look like garbage. fatherboxx posted:So, Bostria said that nu-JSA is one of the 5 sectorials, so Invincible army is pretty much 100% shifted to next year or never, cool cool I think he was saying IA is slated for July this year on the Spanish forums. Can't confirm because I don't read spanish, but hey Hipster Occultist fucked around with this message at 11:55 on Mar 7, 2018 |
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Mar 7, 2018 11:51
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Hipster Occultist posted:This my local group apparently. Apparently Mobile Brigada are a hulking backboard rock-like presence while Riot Grrls are meant to be midfield hunters and both have a place in StarCo. Don't play nomads, but what is it that makes RG's so much better?
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Mar 7, 2018 12:28
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MSV1 and 30pts each, plus hyperdynamics and a good selection of loadouts. 3 arm. Vs 40 pts each and a good selection of loadouts.4 arm. So you sacrifice a 1 in 20 chance of saving an armour roll for much better capabilities vs all ch: skills, saving 10pts, and dodging on 16s. And that 10 points is huge for list building if your going core link.
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Mar 7, 2018 12:44
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Cassa posted:Don't play nomads, but what is it that makes RG's so much better? They are extremely undercosted due to frenzy discount (nullified in a linked team), have MSV1 to hunt camos and Hyperdynamics to dodge templates. Riot Girl Missile Launcher costs 33, Brigada is 40. Cheapest filler (Boarding shotgun) is 27 vs 33. The only thing better than that is Hospitalier-Magister fireteam which is absolute bullshit.
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Mar 7, 2018 12:50
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Unfortunately as a Corregidor player I can concur with the opinions on grrls vs brigada. Frenzy discount for firetrap units is one of those things (like the +1B for missile launchers) which is kind of an accepted part of the game despite being a standout choice whenever it appears. fatherboxx posted:So, Bostria said that nu-JSA is one of the 5 sectorials, so Invincible army is pretty much 100% shifted to next year or never, cool cool Pretty sure he said JSA is, but the other NA2 armies are not. So 4 left to be revealed. I think I are a safe bet for one of those.
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Mar 7, 2018 13:07
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Genghis Cohen posted:Unfortunately as a Corregidor player I can concur with the opinions on grrls vs brigada. Frenzy discount for firetrap units is one of those things (like the +1B for missile launchers) which is kind of an accepted part of the game despite being a standout choice whenever it appears. It's part of why Steel Phalanx is so good and so hated. They can easily deploy a force which is 80-90% linkteams, all of which are made up of high-quality killing machines with the frenzy discount.
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So a couple buddies and I went super hard into starting Infinity, and that's great and all, but now he's got some co-workers interested enough to try out some demo games. So... Anyone know the best way to run demos for folks? I've got Red Veil + Beyond, some more Yu Jing, and a bunch (enough for a 300 point list, and some remotes) of Corregidor. One buddy has the Tohaa and USAriadna army boxes, plus a bunch more USAriadna. Our friend who is less insane when getting into hobbies will have the Pan-O from Icestorm assembled by the designated time. So, yeah. Any suggestions? I feel like a 150 point game without advanced rules might work, but I'd like some input from some more experienced folks.
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Mar 7, 2018 15:27
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The missions from Icestorm are the best way to start new players off.
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Mar 7, 2018 15:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcDwsrgD0Os
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Mar 7, 2018 15:36
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Yeah if you have someone’s attention for an hour, Icestorm missions are perfect. Infinity is a hard game to demo in a “15 mins at a con” setting, though.
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We have a couple hours and are demoing for three people. The guy with Ice Storm apparently won't have the Nomads built by the time we're doing this, but my Red Veil stuff is together. Do we just go through the whole set of Red Veil missions, cycling between players/sides, so they all get a chance?
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Mar 7, 2018 17:43
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Sounds good to me. If they seem to be catching on you could pick and choose or even just pick a mission suitable for 150 points and run them through it. Which army isn't super important. You could use the the Haqq stuff instead of the Nomads since both the Spekter and Taureg have TO camo.
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If you're short on time and it's just demoing to one (or two) people I've got a system. It's aimed at showing of the mechanics rather than playing through a game. Set up a small table (2x2 is plenty) Mark the middle of one edge as a spawn Place down 3-4 S2 units. One just out of Los from the spawn but in the open, the next around a corner and in cover, and the third on a roof prone and in cover. Give the player line troop X and a stack of orders. Show them: Mov-shoot (to get the first target who just takes it) Mov-mov (to get to the second) Cover (second target also takes it) Face to face (third target dodges/shoots back) You can also go over vaulting, jumping, and climbing as the other basics. Camo can be added but I usually find its best to move to an icestoem type game next rather than pile on rules.
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Mar 7, 2018 22:28
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fatherboxx posted:So, Bostria said that nu-JSA is one of the 5 sectorials, so Invincible army is pretty much 100% shifted to next year or never, cool cool ha ha ha this sucks, man
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Mar 7, 2018 23:08
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Clawtopsy posted:ha ha ha I don’t understand the logic there. JSA is one of 5 armies this calendar year to come out with models. There’s 4 left. Why wouldn’t IA be one of those four?
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Mar 7, 2018 23:12
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There isn't but people are jumping to play victim and whine.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:18
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Have they said the new book is just the three factions?
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Mar 7, 2018 23:19
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Cassa posted:Have they said the new book is just the three factions? Four, technically, as Druze is also in there. Plus fluff and updated rules for all the Dire Foes characters, apparently.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:23
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Don't forget the 7 new missions!
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Mar 7, 2018 23:26
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I cannot wait to be devastated by how bad the PanO dire foes redesign are and how good the rest will be
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Mar 7, 2018 23:29
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It's almost like people are invested in their existing models and lists, and the vague information and comments about losing "many units" don't assuage concerns... 
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Mar 7, 2018 23:31
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Clawtopsy posted:It's almost like people are invested in their existing models and lists, and the vague information and comments about losing "many units" don't assuage concerns... If you’re invested in YJ and have all the Japanese units, then you can still play JSA and YJ anyway. Just not together.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:38
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The only non-Ninja JSA model I have is a Shikami, which I'm just going to use as a Hac Tao because duh.
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I don't really want to have to start purchasing another seperate faction? When I play outside of competitive events, I just take my collection and click a list together on my device. I've pretty much always played vanilla, as sectorials don't do it for me. You can say "just play both", but no matter which way you slice it, Yu Jing are seemingly losing options, such as the Oniwaben.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:51
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I mean, I'll happily eat my words if it's a case of the models I bought to this point becoming limited AVA or similar. There's just been little word, and silence can be deafening.
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Mar 7, 2018 23:55
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Cat Face Joe posted:I cannot wait to be devastated by how bad the PanO dire foes redesign are and how good the rest will be
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Mar 7, 2018 23:58
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either way i need to paint some little japanese flags on the faceplates of my kuang shi and wu ming
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Cat Face Joe posted:I cannot wait to be devastated by how bad the PanO dire foes redesign are and how good the rest will be
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Mar 8, 2018 01:21
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I need some silhouettes, templates, and order tokens. Anybody know of any good places that make some eye-catching accessories?
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Mar 8, 2018 02:24
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I like my warsen.al templates and silhouettes a lot.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:26
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Magic Rabbit Hat posted:I need some silhouettes, templates, and order tokens. Anybody know of any good places that make some eye-catching accessories? I'm a big fan of LOSBlock and Art of War studio stuff. I like AoWs tokens but i have the silhouettes and civvies from Los and they're fantastic.
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Mar 8, 2018 02:54
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Jackal Designs in Aus is pretty great, in my experience. I wish more token packs had more than two wound tokens. My boys get shot ok.
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This might be a crazy idea, but what if the JSA models really limited what they could do with Invincible Army and they split off the faction so that Yu Jing's upcoming new stuff can be even cooler without completely breaking the game apart?
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KPC_Mammon posted:This might be a crazy idea, but what if the JSA models really limited what they could do with Invincible Army and they split off the faction so that Yu Jing's upcoming new stuff can be even cooler without completely breaking the game apart? all i know is that perfidious traitors get the bullet gotta pacify fast
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Magic Rabbit Hat posted:I need some silhouettes, templates, and order tokens. Anybody know of any good places that make some eye-catching accessories? If you're in the US it's warsen.al.
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Flipswitch posted:Bipandra 1 swc. Konnie no changes. This is my fear. Bipandra will get a point reduction but keep the 0.5 SWC and Konstantinos will be unchanged since everyone thinks he's just great already. Pierzak posted:As a Yu Jing player, you're the first thing to brighten up my day. CB constantly hammering nails into my dick and I love it
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Mar 8, 2018 16:00
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Cat Face Joe posted:If you're in the US it's warsen.al. Canada. Shipping the things I wanted was fully half the total cost of the product. It's ok though, I grabbed some of the cool stuff from Art of War. 
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JoshTheStampede posted:I don’t understand the logic there. JSA is one of 5 armies this calendar year to come out with models. There’s 4 left. Why wouldn’t IA be one of those four? because JSA was a part of the Yu Jing line of models and doing a spotlight on 2 sectorials from a single line in a year makes no sense
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