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Forum Joe posted:Quick question: I bought a new receiver and got it all hooked up. It’s a Yamaha HTR-4071 and it sounds great for the price and has all the functionality I was looking for... Does the receiver have an ”enhancer” for compressed music? Is that on? Try turning it off. Check settings for other effects and corrections as well. All built-in Spotify connect devices should use the 320 kbps stream so that should not be the problem.
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nitsuga posted:I hate to be obnoxious, but anybody got any ideas on this? I can't really tell when it's cranked, but when I fade it to the right I can hear it for sure. Check the connections to the tweeter. Are they solid? Electrically isolate the tweeter from the rest of the speaker then touch the speaker wires from the amp (turned down VERY low) across it's terminals. Does it work? I recently repaired a speaker that was doing this, the spade terminal that connected the tweeter had become loose over time. Pinching it back down with pliers resolved the problem. A Lone Girl Flier fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Feb 18, 2018 |
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Feb 18, 2018 12:05
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Yeah the fact that it's less obvious at high volume sounds like (lol) the tweeter's not even working. Our ears' frequency response to lows and highs are rolled off at lower volumes and flatter at higher volumes (this is what a "loudness" control/switch on receivers is for), so when it's cranked the treble being output by the larger driver sounds relatively louder and somewhat compensates for the lack of tweeter.
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Feb 18, 2018 21:19
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Thanks! I'll wiggle those wires tomorrow. Pretty neat with the "Loudness" button too. I had a receiver a while back with one of those, and I always kept it pushed in. Now I know why.
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Feb 19, 2018 02:10
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Finally set up the receiver in my media center. I think I need to get one of those digital optical cables to plug the tv into the receiver? Right now I have all my HDMI stuff (consoles, Blu-ray) going through the receiver but we mostly watch stuff on the smart TV apps. So I'm wondering if I should get one of those and just plug stuff into the tv via HDMI and run all audio to the receiver from the tv?
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Feb 20, 2018 17:53
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Does your TV or receiver not have an ARC input?
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Feb 20, 2018 18:02
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Endless Mike posted:Does your TV or receiver not have an ARC input? The tv doesn't specify next to the HDMI slot so I assume not. It's a Vizio E series from a a few years ago.
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Feb 20, 2018 18:40
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My beloved receiver of 8 years just passed away, an HK AVR 254, may it rest in peace. In lieu of flowers, please send recommendations for a new receiver that's around or under $500. Wirecutter recommends the Denon AVR-S730H and all its specs seem to meet or exceed what I already had, though it comes with a bunch of streaming stuff I could do without. Is there any reason I shouldn't go with this? Or is there something cheaper that's still good quality hardware, that maybe lacks integrated streaming? I could probably use the additional wattage since my setup includes a couple standing speakers, although I do wonder if this is overkill.
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Feb 21, 2018 04:13
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I keep hearing the head-fi crowd gushing over DSD but I don’t see a point when source material is PCM. In fact it seems like a step backward unless you’re originating from a very high bitrate or pristine analog source. Am I missing something, or I’d it just audiophile nuttery?
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Feb 26, 2018 18:43
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All hi-res music stuff is bunk, just a way for companies to get people to pay more for music and upgrade their gear. Especially since most of the people who can afford this stuff are at an age where they probably can't hear anything over 15khz anyway. MQA is the worst though since it's lossy compression and an undefeatable built-in eq curve.
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Feb 26, 2018 18:50
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Sure, but converting PCM-anything to DSD seems uniquely bad because you’re resampling the audio, introducing a layer of loss. I’m seeing dudes brag about converting FLAC to DSD. As far as I can tell, they’re both making music worse, and harder to play on common devices.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:08
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eddiewalker posted:I’m seeing dudes brag about converting FLAC to DSD. As far as I can tell, they’re both making music worse, and harder to play on common devices.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:13
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eddiewalker posted:Sure, but converting PCM-anything to DSD seems uniquely bad because you’re resampling the audio, introducing a layer of loss. It is extremely pointless and idiotic though.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:38
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Flipperwaldt posted:"Loss" in the sense that if you converted back, it wouldn't end up mathematically identical, maybe. But it wouldn't be noticeable to the human hearing at all. You wouldn't know. You couldn't. That goes for the guys saying the conversion is desirable, but also for someone insisting they're making music worse, I guess. Distinguishable or not, you’re not pulling in more resolution out of thin air and you’re making files that are harder to play. I guess my intuition was correct.
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Feb 26, 2018 20:07
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TX-NR676. Fairly new, just starting to scratch the surface of the net features, namely Spotify. I usually exclusively listen to locally stored music, but as theres no YouTube without using another device (guess I could just use Bluetooth instead of WiFi) I bring up Spotify when I wanna hear something I don't own. But it doesn't wanna work. Aside from seeming to take too long to connect, it does indicate on screen that it's playing but I get nothing. Did a firmware update the other day so that's all up to date. Works fine when I just play music over my network off my phone or NAS or whatever. I don't really like the Spotify app either as it kinda wants to take over, last time I tried it defaulted to that when I got in the car after instead of my normal music player. Any thoughts? Still some kinks to be worked out with this stuff?
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Feb 27, 2018 20:06
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No experience with TX-NR676 but I use Spotify Connect a lot with a RX-V681, WXAD-10, iphone, mac and a Windows pc and it has worked well. So no fundamental issues I would assume, possibly some related to specific implementations?
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Feb 27, 2018 21:09
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Just how much better are paired stereo bluetooth speakers compared to a single? I've never owned one - alway played music on a good pair of bookshelves - but now I'm in the market for a portable speaker, and listening in effectively mono seems weird. Is dropping some dough on e.g. a pair of JBL Flip 4s going to give significantly better sound quality than dropping the same cash on e.g. a single Megaboom? I'm trying to fill a room with sound (bedroom/lounge room/kitchen listening) not host parties, so quality over loudness for me. Budget is about $200AUD-ish.
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Feb 28, 2018 02:08
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I got two of these outdoor speakers for free: http://www.ticcorp.com/products/gs3-8-outdoor-weather-resistant-omnidirectional-in-ground-speaker.html (200W, 8Ω) and I want to find a small amp that I can use to power them, using a Google Chromecast Audio for the input source. I say "small" in the sense that I have a small apartment and I don't have a lot of room or a spare shelf for it. I plan on keeping the amp indoors and running the speaker wires outside to my deck where the speakers will be. I am also hoping I can pay under $100 for it. Would something like this work for me: https://www.amazon.com/microFidelity-Audio-Amplifier-Model-Black/dp/B004HW3KKE ?
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Feb 28, 2018 20:36
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NotWearingPants posted:Would something like this work for me: https://www.amazon.com/microFidelity-Audio-Amplifier-Model-Black/dp/B004HW3KKE ? https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-50Wx2-T...3&keywords=smsl https://www.amazon.com/Micca-OriGai...3VFCYSTYQ7E4H58
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Feb 28, 2018 21:40
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qirex posted:That looks sketchy even by the standards of Chinese tripath amps on Amazon and there's absolutely no way it puts out 150 watts [ah, burst mode in mono, probably at 115% THD]. There's better known brands like SMSL and Micca that offer amps under $100. Thanks! I think that's exactly what I am looking for. I ordered the Micca.
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Feb 28, 2018 22:33
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Is there a high-quality speaker-level RCA out to line-level out converter for subwoofers? Is this a dumb thing to do?
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Mar 2, 2018 00:31
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Is this a car stereo or something? What exactly are you trying to accomplish with the converter?
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Mar 2, 2018 18:35
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The Onkyo A-9010 has a speaker level RCA out, but no pre-out or sub-out, which is really odd. I'd like to use it with a Dayton Audio sub I have lying around.
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Mar 2, 2018 18:54
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Elac has updated the Debut series, they look pretty different. Front ports, new woofer and tweeter, looks like they're a little easier to drive too since they're listing them as 6 ohms nominal instead of 4.quote:B5.2 two-way bookshelf speaker with a 5. 25-inch woofer ($250/pair)
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Mar 2, 2018 19:07
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Eager to try the B6.2, was thinking of B6 for a living room setup. Someone was saying that the B6 isn't all it's cracked up to be though.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:12
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Gotcha. Not sure what your inputs are on the Dayton, but here's what I would do. If the line out on the Onkyo adjusts with the volume level I would simply hook the sub straight in RCA to RCA. If the line level doesn't adjust, I would run the L R speaker outputs to the sub (if the sub has a passthrough) and then via the terminal outs on the sub to your speakers.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:13
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bigman.50grand posted:Gotcha. Not sure what your inputs are on the Dayton, but here's what I would do.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:The Onkyo A-9010 has a speaker level RCA out, but no pre-out or sub-out, which is really odd. I'd like to use it with a Dayton Audio sub I have lying around. Looked up that receiver. I see speaker level binding posts and a preamp lineout. You shouldn’t need any sort of adapter to use a powered subwoofer. You won’t get any crossover from that receiver, though, so your mains will be getting a full signal. The line-puts also probably aren’t level-adjustable. The only place you’ll see speaker level RCA is on really old junk. Like low-end from the 70s. Maybe a goofy home-theater-in-a-box unit. edit: forgot pass-thrus are a thing. Do that. eddiewalker fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 19:21
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I know it looks like a preamp lineout, but it actually isn't, I tried, it's speaker-level. They want you to buy the 9050 for a sub out. Pass through route is totally fine with me though.
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Mar 2, 2018 19:54
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I liked the amp shootout thread, but I like reading about weird gear.
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Mar 3, 2018 01:29
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I just learned that CD transports are a thing. They're CD players without a built in DAC since lots of people may have external ones. I can see the sense in that. What I can't understand is why some of them cost $450. If they're outputting a digital signal shouldn't the output be identical to a $35 DVD player from Walmart? I know high end audio gear can get silly but I just want to be sure I'm understanding this situation correctly.
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McCracAttack posted:I just learned that CD transports are a thing. They're CD players without a built in DAC since lots of people may have external ones. I can see the sense in that. What I can't understand is why some of them cost $450. If they're outputting a digital signal shouldn't the output be identical to a $35 DVD player from Walmart? It’s basically crazy. On some corner of the internet, you’ll find “audiophiles” hoarding original PlayStations just to play CDs because of Reasons. https://www.stereophile.com/features/368/index.html
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eddiewalker posted:It’s basically crazy. On some corner of the internet, you’ll find “audiophiles” hoarding original PlayStations just to play CDs because of Reasons. I'm 95% sure the guy who started the Playstation thing even admitted it was a hoax a while back, but I can't find the link. As I recall there was an aspect of warming up involved as well, as in it was recommended to leave your PS1 powered on for something like 24 hours before trying to listen to anything. edit: That article is also very interesting. I nearly closed it when I reached the point where they were talking about directionality in passive cables, but then they pulled out a fairly reasonable explanation of a slightly poor fitting connection at one end resulting in reflections which screwed with clock recovery. The embedded clocking of S/PDIF combined with lack of error detection does provide a plausible explanation for audible differences caused solely by jitter. As noted, how much it actually matters depends on how the receiver handles it, so each pairing of source and sink, plus potentially cable as noted, could have different results depending on quality and tolerance. A picky sink may benefit more from a higher quality source device than a tolerant sink. All of this should go out the window however for HDMI-connected sources like Bluray players or game consoles, since the clock is carried separately from the data. A poorly made cable with mismatched pair lengths could cause a different kind of jitter though due to its parallel nature, but that would be consistent and would produce very obvious visual issues if it was bad enough to affect audio. wolrah fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Mar 8, 2018 |
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Mar 8, 2018 19:09
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Yeah it's definitely nonsense but no amount of actual reality will deter an audiophool.
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Mar 8, 2018 19:12
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I had a Pioneer CD player once, where a previous owner had upgraded the clock crystal.
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Mar 9, 2018 10:14
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I thought the ps1 thing was based on a nugget of truth- some models having useful stereo outputs and a controller board/chip that appeared on more expensive cd players at the time but sony could throw into the ps1 due to economy of scale.
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Mar 9, 2018 10:28
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Sony used stuff as used in their audio kit, but Sony audio kit was never stunningly good in the first place. To suggest Sony fluked out and somehow produced one of the best CD players accidentally in a games console of all things is pretty funny.
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Mar 9, 2018 11:06
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Sony used to produce really well-designed and well-built gear, especially their ES series and their MiniDisc players, which were simply outstanding. They started throwing all of that away sometime during the 90s, unfortunately.
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Mar 9, 2018 12:11
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Audiophiles exist because back in the 60s, simple adjustments could make a huge change. You could swap out tubes for ones with different characteristics and none of them were perfect so it was all subjective. Media was inherently lossy and couldn't be easily copied. Home equipment was simple to modify and improving all the time. It was like how car people of the same era were loving around with the tuning on their carburetor with nothing but a screwdriver. Then the digital revolution happened and we could prove mathematically that all sounds up to Niquest could be reproduced perfectly and bit perfect copies of masters were the standard and an entire audio circuit was one IC that couldn't be modified and it made people lose their goddamned minds. These people's hobby wasn't listening to music, it was tinkering with audio equipment. And that hobby died practically overnight. So they made up some bullshit to save that hobby and snakeoil salesmen are happy to serve them.
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To bring this back to quick questions, is there really no good option for bringing sound from a laptop to a stereo, other than a long-rear end cable or messing around with more or less unreliable wireless bodge-jobs? The laptop in question has bluetooth 3.0 AFAIK, so that seems like the most straight-forward option (provided the latency isn't too bad), because actual wireless audio dongles are rare as hen's teeth, and Chromecast/Airplay has way too much inherent latency that can't be avoided.
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