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Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

bunnyofdoom posted:

So was the PCO injunction granted?

The judge is supposed to issue some kind of ruling at 5pm.

I'm guessing no injunction.

e: Source:

https://twitter.com/CTVToronto/status/972176977007464448

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Reince Penis posted:

The judge is supposed to issue some kind of ruling at 5pm.

I'm guessing no injunction.

e: Source:

https://twitter.com/CTVToronto/status/972176977007464448

But I wanna laugh noooooowwwwwww

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
So under what laws are they telling a private organization how to run their business? I don't quite understand this.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Risky Bisquick posted:

So under what laws are they telling a private organization how to run their business? I don't quite understand this.

I don't know exactly what's happening here, but a court can intervene if they're persuaded an organization is not following it's own rules for governance.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Risky Bisquick posted:

So under what laws are they telling a private organization how to run their business? I don't quite understand this.

I too can't believe the government would boss people around

EvidenceBasedQuack
Aug 15, 2015

A rock has no detectable opinion about gravity

Helsing posted:

Especially in retrospect I think that was one of those definitive moments when I realized how much I disliked the kind of young person who is most inclined to get involved with political parties: they're keen young joiners with no ideology except personal advancement and cheering for the appropriate team Jersey.

Oh man this is so true.

I once dated someone who was involved in politics and it was so great to have all these debates on policy, government, messaging. Then they got a position at PMO.

Power corrupts, I guess.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Reince Penis posted:

The judge is supposed to issue some kind of ruling at 5pm.

I'm guessing no injunction.

e: Source:

https://twitter.com/CTVToronto/status/972176977007464448

hahahahaha the PC just keeps stabbing itself in the face what a bunch of incompetent morons they can't even loving run their own voting properly and soon they are gonna be in charge of billions of taxpayer money

tagesschau
Sep 1, 2006

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
THE SPEECH SUPPRESSOR


Remember: it's "antisemitic" to protest genocide as long as the targets are brown.

Typo posted:

hahahahaha the PC just keeps stabbing itself in the face what a bunch of incompetent morons they can't even loving run their own voting properly and soon they are gonna be in charge of billions of taxpayer money

Ontari-ari-ari-o.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Typo posted:

the high school intern at my work place today just spent 15 min jizzing about how great "grew up in Canada" stephen crowder is
Pls drop that kid headfirst in a garbage can

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

bunnyofdoom posted:

Totally fair question. For me good government means being able to long term plan, have a clear plan,be able to deliver on it, and be able to communicate it effectively. By that standard, the ONDP didn't show any of that last election. They triggered the election but didn't have even a basic platform when they did, and in fact didn't release the full one until after the election.

I mean, I like what they want. I get the feeling they really mean well, and if they could pick a better group to run them, I would vote for them in a heartbeat. But honestly, looking at how Horwath has been as a leader, flailing from one thing to another, never getting out any decent press, and how they have been in opposition. For a specific example, look at how they reacted to the college strike. They delayed students returning to class in a purely symbolic move. In theory, sure good, stand for the union. But OPSEU themselves supported the vote, and said the Gov was supporting them and trying to help negotiations. If Horwarth was smart, she should have said she stands with OPSEU, and attacked the CEC instead, but she instead pissed off students, and went against the union itself, so like, it came across to me like Partisan flailing (Keep in mind, I was a college student at the time, supported the teachers 100%, and had already gone full gently caress the OLP)*


*Source= https://globalnews.ca/news/3865644/ontario-ndp-block-legislation-college-strike/

The ONDP aren't exactly an inspiring bunch but they're capable of running the province as well as the plausible alternatives. It's not as though the civil service all resign when a new government comes into power.

Reince Penis posted:

Again, the paramount principle of the courts is the best interests of the child. The reason for that is any alternative involves the courts taking sides in a separation, which is infinitely more difficult to legislate or develop a jurisprudence framework around (a fancy way of saying it would be generally unjust).

It seems unjust that we actually have an explicit standard dictating that affluent children must remain as affluent as possible, whereas we simply accept poverty for other children. It seems to actively reinforce and legitimize the idea that your parents wealth should determine your own standard of living.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Helsing posted:

It seems unjust that we actually have an explicit standard dictating that affluent children must remain as affluent as possible, whereas we simply accept poverty for other children. It seems to actively reinforce and legitimize the idea that your parents wealth should determine your own standard of living.

Yeah, agreed big time. Child support should be tax based and standardized. It's better ALL kids have enough money for a decent shot at life than to make sure some rich kids can attend the most expensive private schools and not have to choose between their dressage horse or jumping horse. But we really do have deeply ingrained ideas of class and entitlement in our society, that a kid born into luxury is entitled to remain at that level of luxury as her birthright. And if some poor single dad can only scrape together an unreliable $100 a month from his crazy mentally ill ex who can't hold a job, well I mean it was the kid's birth destiny to be poor right?

Child support should be about what's best for all children, not some sort of "status quo insurance" that keeps rich kids rich and poor kids poor.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/Momin680NEWS/status/972257675344883712

I can't believe they're dragging this out lol

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Whatever they are doing they are making sure it is iron loving tight.

edit: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-pc-leadership-injunction-denied-1.4568607

Rejected, no extension, leadership victor announced this weekend.

Arivia fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Mar 10, 2018

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
#DougFordWouldHaveWon

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Mar 10, 2018

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Kinda impressed by the possibility of the 3 contenders all being women.

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Syfe posted:

Kinda impressed by the possibility of the 3 contenders all being women.

That's actually just Doug Ford #notallbreasts

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich
The new 10 having Viola Desmond on it is very cool and good. Hoping to see more figures like that on our currency in the future.

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich
A pretty interesting article in the star today. The whole "never meet your heroes" thing sure is compounded in 2018, when pretty much even previously lionized historical figures will be re-examined with a critical eye now. I never heard of the Bengal famine and this certainly makes for a harrowing story.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/sta...-his-hands.html

I am not sure what she means by MLK and Ghandi having a dark side though. MLK might have been adulterous but I haven't heard much else bad. And Ghandi? Isn't that just a reddit meme like how him and Mother Theresa are actually the baddies?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Eh, Ghandi had some weird ideas about self control that involved sleeping naked with his neice or something IIRC.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




patonthebach posted:

The new 10 having Viola Desmond on it is very cool and good. Hoping to see more figures like that on our currency in the future.

Replace the queen with Mr.Dressup. :unsmigghh:

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
I know that literally every time any brand unveils a logo the whole world dogpiles on with backseat graphic designing, but this really seems pretty :effort:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-frills-logo-for-ontario-cannabis-store-met-with-mixed-reviews-1.3836618




For some reason it really bugs me that they didn't use a fixed-width font so the

O
C
S

doesn't vertically line up in a nice way.


And of course they allegedly hugely overpaid for the logo and "branding strategy" from some swanky design firm.

You don't need a loving Branding Strategy, you have a monopoly on legal weed.

Also,

https://twitter.com/lkoch99/status/972212077606547456

T.C.
Feb 10, 2004

Believe.

patonthebach posted:


I am not sure what she means by MLK and Ghandi having a dark side though. MLK might have been adulterous but I haven't heard much else bad. And Ghandi? Isn't that just a reddit meme like how him and Mother Theresa are actually the baddies?


And mother Teresa seems to have had some questionable opinions on medical care and suffering. I've never looked into it enough to have much of an opinion on it, but It's not some new internet allegation? There were contemporary opinions on it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

Furnaceface posted:

Replace the queen with Mr.Dressup. :unsmigghh:

Replace the queen with Scott Thompson in drag as the queen.

:20bux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IloIoGj5Mj0 :20bux:

Syfe
Jun 12, 2006


Entropic posted:

I know that literally every time any brand unveils a logo the whole world dogpiles on with backseat graphic designing, but this really seems pretty :effort:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-frills-logo-for-ontario-cannabis-store-met-with-mixed-reviews-1.3836618




For some reason it really bugs me that they didn't use a fixed-width font so the

O
C
S

doesn't vertically line up in a nice way.


And of course they allegedly hugely overpaid for the logo and "branding strategy" from some swanky design firm.

You don't need a loving Branding Strategy, you have a monopoly on legal weed.

Also,

https://twitter.com/lkoch99/status/972212077606547456

Small graphic designer complaint, I'm really annoyed that they went with a San-Serif font without bothering to have it be monospaced, the fact that the O and the C align, but not the S just looks horrible. (the font is also really close to looking fixed width, but obviously isn't. It just seems like a really amateur mistake)

edit: didn't notice the complaint was in the post, haha, but I'll keep my original post anyway, because damnit, it's true.

I couldn't stand it, so I did a quick and dirty fix of it to show how wrong it is. (because it's quick, the S looks a bit thick, but ehh, it's almost 3am)

Syfe fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Mar 10, 2018

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Also Ghandi was very much a huge misogynist whereas other civil rights leaders like Frederick Douglass actively campaigned for women's rights because a rising tide lifts all boats.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

HookShot posted:

Also Ghandi was very much a huge misogynist whereas other civil rights leaders like Frederick Douglass actively campaigned for women's rights because a rising tide lifts all boats.

And not even in a "judging the past by today's standards" kind of way, either. They thought he was creepy then, and his own followers called him on it.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Entropic posted:

I know that literally every time any brand unveils a logo the whole world dogpiles on with backseat graphic designing, but this really seems pretty :effort:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/no-frills-logo-for-ontario-cannabis-store-met-with-mixed-reviews-1.3836618




For some reason it really bugs me that they didn't use a fixed-width font so the

O
C
S

doesn't vertically line up in a nice way.


And of course they allegedly hugely overpaid for the logo and "branding strategy" from some swanky design firm.

You don't need a loving Branding Strategy, you have a monopoly on legal weed.

Also,

https://twitter.com/lkoch99/status/972212077606547456
Vancouver was harshly criticized for approving what now seems a bargain at only $8000

lowly abject turd
Mar 23, 2009
MLK's darkside is such a laughable and p loving gross slander. Even if you believe that being and adulterer is unforgivable every shred of evidence of the supposed adultery comes from the illustrious FBI under the unimpeachable j edgar hoover

LMAO

Gandhi on the other hand was not only a misogynist but also a huge racist. He seemed to believe that south african white minority rule was a pretty good system aside from the fact that indian people were technically aryan.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
How are Churchill, MLK and Gandhi even in the same sentence?

Churchill: Famous for being Hitler except winning
MLK and Gandhi: Famous for fighting Churchill's ideals

xtal fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Mar 10, 2018

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

T.C. posted:

And mother Teresa seems to have had some questionable opinions on medical care and suffering. I've never looked into it enough to have much of an opinion on it, but It's not some new internet allegation? There were contemporary opinions on it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa

Yea my understanding is that Teresa has the same flaw that old school Christianity in general does, except dialled up to 11 - that poverty and suffering were good, beautiful, and pure things that made you ready for the Kingdom of Heaven. So she wasn’t necessarily fighting for the alleviation of suffering - I think there are claims that she intentionally left the facilities in her care in shambles - no anesthetic and stuff like that - because suffering is to be as Jesus on the Cross. She’s like the pornographic version of anti-poverty efforts. All exploitation.

And of course, she was just as conservative as you would expect a fervent Catholic of the mid-20th century to be on divorce, contraception, abortion etc., though how much stock you put in that depends on how much of a historical relativist you are.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
It never fails to crack me up when people use ‘but Stalin!’ as an argument against communism but they’ve never heard of the Bengal famine or King Leopold. Churchill was always a staunch imperialist and racist, it’s why Britain chose him to lead them in the war. He also advocated for the gassing of Kurdish civilians to quell uprisings in British Mesopotamia

I’d guess the ‘dark side’ of MLK is probably a reference to his actual politics. He was basically a revolutionary socialist that’s legacy has been coopted by liberals to be about inclusion and non-violence when in actuality he was more about radical social change. I personally find the whitewashing of his legacy to be more distasteful than even the purposeful ignorance about imperialists such as Churchill or Teddy Roosevelt

Stickarts
Dec 21, 2003

literally

Leopold is one of my go to examples for “decolonizing history” lessons. If you want a trip, go read about the Aborigenese resistance fighter Pemulwuy and what happened to him after his death.

On this note - thanks for bringing up the Tulsa Race Riots a while back Vyelkin. That is crazy stuff.

Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

MLK plagiarized parts of his dissertation. Which, in terms of bad stuff, pales in comparison to Gandhi's darker side, and doesn't even show up on the radar if you're talking about Churchill.

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
i herd ghandi wouldn't let people take western medicine or some poo poo like that but when he got sick whoa *eats imported western medicine*

confirm/deny

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Baronjutter posted:

I was reading some study from a while ago on fakenews, bots, and paid trolls and poo poo and they found conservatives were overwhelmingly more susceptible to it all. They even tried to do it them selves to see how successful they'd be and found their conservative accounts would get tons of shares and people would eat up everything they said but progressive/leftist groups would very quickly sniff them out and fact-check them and internet detective them as a fake account. When it comes to sharing fake news articles or retweeting russian bots, conservatives are 10-20x more likely.

"That conservatives are seemingly prone to spread content from Russian trolls or junk news isn’t a matter of intelligence — it might be because they are more attuned to threats, even if those threats aren’t real. A study published in the journal Psychological Science (and cited by the Atlantic) found that right-leaning people are often hyper-attuned to what they perceive as potential hazards and tend to believe signs of danger rather than ignore them."
Basically they're way more scared of the world so will react to any potential threats rather than stopping and having a critical think about it. I've called people out on this sort of thing, sharing totally fake alarmist bullshit and their reply is always something along the lines of "Better safe than sorry, I'm glad it's not real but it's important to spread the news of even potential dangers as fast as possible"

my theory is that conservatives are just on average older so you get way more of /forwardsfromgrandma types who retweet russian fakenews

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Falstaff posted:

MLK plagiarized parts of his dissertation. Which, in terms of bad stuff, pales in comparison to Gandhi's darker side, and doesn't even show up on the radar if you're talking about Churchill.

Tommy Douglas's thesis was a bit sketchy too.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
The main thing with Mother Theresa is that the vast majority of the money she raised when to things like building convents and "houses for the dying" where poor sick people got extremely basic palliative care rather than any kind of actual hospital care. Here whole thing was "be nice to poor, dying people and bring them to jesus" rather than "help poor sick people not die or stop being poor".

And she had the same weird devotion to living in "poverty" herself that Ghandi did, where it became actually counter-productive and a bit perverse. Like there are instances of her order taking over a building and immediately ripping out all the modern plumbing and wiring that was already there so that they could be all humble and simple.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Mother Theresa was a sadistic pain freak that got all doe eyed at the sight and sound of extreme suffering. The world is a better place now that she's no longer among the living.

I remember showing a few family members articles about her behaviour shortly after her death because I just couldn't stand all the undeserved nice things they were saying about that evil witch. It upset them at first but then accepted it and now no longer reference her.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
Basically, just look up what former volunteers for her order say about it:

https://missionariesofcharity.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/volunteers-continue-to-testify-against-mother-teresas-charity/

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Arivia posted:

Whatever they are doing they are making sure it is iron loving tight.

edit: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-pc-leadership-injunction-denied-1.4568607

Rejected, no extension, leadership victor announced this weekend.

this is actually one of the improbably worst outcomes imo

the worst outcome is for anyone to emerge victor but with the aura of illegitimacy around him/her

it is truly amazing how stupid the pc party is for them to gently caress up so much

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