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I understand that many older games have some QoL issues that make them hard to get in for more recent gamers (or at least more recent then the NES era) but to assume that makes all these stone cold classic amazing games bad is just lunacy.
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al-azad posted:When my dad gave me all my old NES stuff in the attic back in like 2010 I literally kicked myself in the rear end when I realized kid me tossed the box and manual for Little Samson. A comic book store sold an entire binder of old Magic cards (revised, Arabian nights, legends) that I accidentally left there and I accepted compensation in the form of unopened Fallen Empires boosters
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glam rock hamhock posted:I understand that many older games have some QoL issues that make them hard to get in for more recent gamers (or at least more recent then the NES era) but to assume that makes all these stone cold classic amazing games bad is just lunacy. It's the equivalent of dismissing silent/b&w movies...shameful imo
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Mar 11, 2018 00:23
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I owned and regularly played a virtual boy when I was 4
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FirstAidKite posted:I owned and regularly played a virtual boy when I was 4 my brother had one and the Wario Land game for it loving ruled, kinda hosed up they never ported it to 3DS tbh
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Mar 11, 2018 00:26
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In Training posted:It's the equivalent of dismissing silent/b&w movies...shameful imo River Raid is still one of the most tightly, perfectly designed shmups ever made
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al-azad posted:When my dad gave me all my old NES stuff in the attic back in like 2010 I literally kicked myself in the rear end when I realized kid me tossed the box and manual for Little Samson. I sold my nes and games for pennies because i wanted to buy a dog and then my parents changed their minds and i got nothing.
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I never noticed this before but the final boss theme of LISA: The Joyful kinda sounds like the final boss theme of Drakengard 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-Mj28P2RJA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axT_RojfaRs Speaking of final boss themes, I finished Persona 2 (Innocent Sin) and Hitler's fight theme is outstanding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFrprd130U glam rock hamhock posted:I understand that many older games have some QoL issues that make them hard to get in for more recent gamers (or at least more recent then the NES era) but to assume that makes all these stone cold classic amazing games bad is just lunacy. As someone who didn't grow up playing old games and thus has no nostalgia for them, there's definitely some that are worth wrestling with for one reason or another.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:30
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In Training posted:It's the equivalent of dismissing silent/b&w movies...shameful imo But movies only had one citizen kane and we get multiple every year in video games
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Mar 11, 2018 00:31
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glam rock hamhock posted:I understand that many older games have some QoL issues that make them hard to get in for more recent gamers (or at least more recent then the NES era) but to assume that makes all these stone cold classic amazing games bad is just lunacy. Correct. Grh ur on fire lately. Nes has a lot of stinkers but also a lot of great games in the genres that did turn out to work well in 8 bit. The games that dont age well imo are a majority of the licensed cash ins, the ones pushing now woefully outdated but then cutting edge tech over gameplay, etc.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:32
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kickle cubicle, you philistines
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Oxxidation posted:kickle cubicle, you philistines Kickle Cubicle is so loving good
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glam rock hamhock posted:I understand that many older games have some QoL issues that make them hard to get in for more recent gamers (or at least more recent then the NES era) but to assume that makes all these stone cold classic amazing games bad is just lunacy.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:39
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Some games endure better than others, I don't really see how that is arguable.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:40
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exquisite tea posted:Some games endure better than others, I don't really see how that is arguable.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:42
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Speak for yourself, I look awesome and my gaming skills are better than ever.
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exquisite tea posted:Some games endure better than others, I don't really see how that is arguable. Bad games were always bad and good games are always good...time has nothing to do with it
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Mar 11, 2018 00:43
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Real hurthling! posted:I sold my nes and games for pennies because i wanted to buy a dog and then my parents changed their minds and i got nothing. this explains a lot
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homeless snail posted:it is us that have aged badly, is my argument Or maybe we just developed good taste
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By the way, I bought another Sonic Youth record and it was just noise!!!
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In Training posted:Bad games were always bad and good games are always good...time has nothing to do with it
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In Training posted:Bad games were always bad and good games are always good...time has nothing to do with it That's not really true, like there are many games that were novel and great in their time that I would not recommend to people today just because they are too clunky to be enjoyable for anyone who wasn't imprinted with them at a young age.
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Mar 11, 2018 00:45
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yeah and citizen kane is boring as poo poo
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precision posted:By the way, I bought another Sonic Youth record and it was just noise!!! so it was a standard Sonic Youth record, I see
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homeless snail posted:yeah and citizen kane is boring as poo poo You picked a really bad example for this flawed argument because Citizen Kane moves very briskly, in fact that's one of the strongest things about it.
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Example of a once-good game that’s now bad: [your favourite childhood game]
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fritz lang? haha I love that guy on the howard stern show bababooey
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glam rock hamhock posted:Kickle Cubicle is so loving good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIspxWXeC2M
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homeless snail posted:fritz lang? haha I love that guy on the howard stern show bababooey The fact that you are naming classic movies and directors that have remained culturally relevant over the mountains of cruft that was celebrated in its time but has since been forgotten is proof within itself that certain works age more poorly than others and that there is no objective standard of quality. To use your bad strawman example, do you know what won the Academy Award for Best Picture in 1942? Not Citizen Kane. Not The Little Foxes. Not The Maltese Falcon. A little film called How Green Was My Valley, do you remember that one?
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homeless snail posted:yeah and citizen kane is boring as poo poo This is hosed up
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exquisite tea posted:That's not really true, like there are many games that were novel and great in their time that I would not recommend to people today just because they are too clunky to be enjoyable for anyone who wasn't imprinted with them at a young age.
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exquisite tea posted:The fact that you are naming classic movies and directors that have remained culturally relevant over the mountains of cruft that was celebrated in its time but has since been forgotten is proof within itself that certain works age more poorly than others and that there is no objective standard of quality. To use your bad strawman example, do you know what won the Academy Award for Best Picture in 1942? Not Citizen Kane. Not The Little Foxes. Not The Maltese Falcon. A little film called How Green Was My Valley, do you remember that one? I think he's trolling
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I wish I could get into the original XCOMs, but they’re pretty impenetrable
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Jay Rust posted:Example of a once-good game that’s now bad: [your favourite childhood game] Actually Pikmin 2 is still amazing.
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I don't know if Pilotwings 64 is still amazing today but gently caress I want a new Pilotwings. Give me a new Pilotwings. Right now.
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Jay Rust posted:Example of a once-good game that’s now bad: [your favourite childhood game] I can't believe you would say that about my favorite childhood game
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precision posted:A comic book store sold an entire binder of old Magic cards (revised, Arabian nights, legends) that I accidentally left there and I accepted compensation in the form of unopened Fallen Empires boosters MtG crowd is so gross. I’ve seen grown rear end men snatch errant binders from children when their backs were turned.
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Jay Rust posted:I wish I could get into the original XCOMs, but they’re pretty impenetrable The last time I went for a classic XCOM playthrough the aliens actually somehow found and invaded my base within like 2 game months. Not only were all of my soldiers woefully incompetent and poorly equipped, but they had no defense at all against psionics so they ended up killing each other and/or running away so it was game over.
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I just wanna play some Monster Hunter and drink beer but instead I have to entertain my in-laws for the weekend 
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