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OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

8 March 1944

British aircraft sink the German torpedo-boat TA-15 (ex-Italian destroyer Francesco Crispi) with a rocket attack off Heraklion.

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
LCT-357 presumed dead. Again.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug

Grey Hunter posted:



I have no words to describe this.

Gulf of Tonkin incident?

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
Where on earth did those Liberators come from? Can you trace back the line to a probable source?

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Coucho Marx posted:

Yeah, it was Zuikaku that lost its air group. They were sister ships, too, so it wasn't like Shokaku's airmen would have to retrain on a new carrier or anything. I think Shattered Sword also points out that air crews were shuffled around later in the war, and it worked just fine then, so really they could have gotten away with it at the time.

But that would require outside-the-box, non-doctrinal thinking, which (for Imperial Japanese naval leadership) was essentially tantamount to treason.

If I recall correctly, it was actually even worse than that. In that even aside from not simply swapping over air groups, there was also no real haste put into replenishing Zuikaku's own. Sure doing it that way still wouldn't have had Zuikaku ready for a month later, but not making a real effort to replenish the capabilities of one of your greatest strike assets with haste is just idiotic.

At least the air group issue was a doctrinal one, as opposed to just flat-out arrogance and laziness.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

CannonFodder posted:

Where on earth did those Liberators come from? Can you trace back the line to a probable source?

Gotta be from Bangladesh, right?

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
I hear an English voice announcing the sinking of two carriers, a battleship, and multiple cruisers and destroyers.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

CannonFodder posted:

Where on earth did those Liberators come from? Can you trace back the line to a probable source?

Northeast India somewhere

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


Woodchip posted:

I hear an English voice announcing the sinking of two carriers, a battleship, and multiple cruisers and destroyers.

Tokyo Rose sends her regards

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Tokyo Rose still makes me jump. I don't have my speakers on that often, but once every so often I get a scare as THE LOUDEST VOICE EVER blasts me.

S w a y z e
Mar 19, 2007

f l a p

That liberator killshot is the most mlg witp thing I've ever seen, except maybe that lone destroyer who charged the KB, got a hit in, and lived

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I assume your sub attacks the LCTs with the deck gun because they've got such shallow drafts you can't reliably torpedo them, right?

Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



dylguy90 posted:

That liberator killshot is the most mlg witp thing I've ever seen, except maybe that lone destroyer who charged the KB, got a hit in, and lived

In my game, a squadron of 6 PT boats charged Shokaku at night when she came too near Canton Island. They slipped past all of her escorts, sank her, and ran away with no damage taken. Easily the most :vince: moment of my campaign so far.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
I always like it when level bombing at 20,000 ft lands a direct hit on a torpedo boat.

S w a y z e
Mar 19, 2007

f l a p

Bold Robot posted:

In my game, a squadron of 6 PT boats charged Shokaku at night when she came too near Canton Island. They slipped past all of her escorts, sank her, and ran away with no damage taken. Easily the most :vince: moment of my campaign so far.

Reminds me of that nighttime surface battle (was at Guadalcanal?) where an American destroyer gave I think a battleship a couple of good old fashioned point blank broadsides because it couldn't tilt its guns low enough to hit them. Hopefully I can find it hang on

Here we go

quote:

Hiei, with her nine lit searchlights, huge size, and course taking her directly through the U.S. formation, became the focus of gunfire from many of the U.S. ships. Laffey passed so close to Hiei that they missed colliding by 20 ft (6 m).[39] Hiei was unable to depress her main or secondary batteries low enough to hit Laffey, but Laffey was able to rake the Japanese battleship with 5 in (127.0 mm) shells and machine gun fire, causing heavy damage to the superstructure and bridge, wounding Admiral Abe and killing his chief of staff.[40] Abe was thus limited in his ability to direct his ships for the rest of the battle.[41] Sterett and O'Bannon likewise fired several salvos into Hiei's superstructure from close range, and perhaps one or two torpedoes into her hull, causing further damage before both destroyers escaped into the darkness.[42]

S w a y z e fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Mar 9, 2018

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Precision weapons :shepicide:

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

A White Guy posted:

Precision weapons :shepicide:

No more precision weapon than a committed man willing to die.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The raiders sweep north to Manus and find some loaded troop ships.



They then proceed to do what they do best.



I'm fairly sure these ships are now the most feared in my navy.



Even on the way home they get more kills.



The silent service also want in on this.



It's literal murder out there today.



I can;t go two days without losing a plane unfortunately.



Oooh, Grey want.






MWAH HA HA HA! It's days like this that make me smile.



Oh yeah, that's the stuff.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Go, furry taco! Bring them wrath!

My lucky ship is puttin' in work!

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

9 March 1944

Two homing torpedo sinkings: corvette HMS Asphodel by U-575 in the Western Approaches and destroyer escort USS Leopold by U-255 in the mid-Atlantic. Only 5 and 28 survivors respectively.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

It makes sense that an AGC is worth 26 points, Wikipedia lists the hull classification either Amphibious Force Flagship or Ampibious Command Ship. You sank one a few weeks ago and this new one means that you've sunken two out of four or five AGCs that they Allies will ever get during the war.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

RZApublican posted:

It makes sense that an AGC is worth 26 points, Wikipedia lists the hull classification either Amphibious Force Flagship or Ampibious Command Ship. You sank one a few weeks ago and this new one means that you've sunken two out of four or five AGCs that they Allies will ever get during the war.

They get 14 in the game

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

They get 14 in the game

Ah, that makes more sense. Underestimating the amount of things the Allies get in any category is pretty in character for this game, though :v:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

9 March 1944

Two homing torpedo sinkings: corvette HMS Asphodel by U-575 in the Western Approaches and destroyer escort USS Leopold by U-255 in the mid-Atlantic. Only 5 and 28 survivors respectively.

Homing torpedoes in WW2? By the Germans? How did those work?

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

gradenko_2000 posted:

Homing torpedoes in WW2? By the Germans? How did those work?

Passive acoustic homing. The torpedo had sensors that would steer it towards the sound of ship propellers.

The allies developed something similar around the same time, the Mark-24 and Mark-27.

Jesenjin
Nov 12, 2011

Epicurius posted:

Passive acoustic homing. The torpedo had sensors that would steer it towards the sound of ship propellers.

The allies developed something similar around the same time, the Mark-24 and Mark-27.

Didn't one German sub got sunk by its own homing torpedo?

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Jesenjin posted:

Didn't one German sub got sunk by its own homing torpedo?

RIP Tupolev.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
2400 support personnel. That's a lot of dead garrison troops and cooks.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Jesenjin posted:

Didn't one German sub got sunk by its own homing torpedo?

Early homing torpedos had that tendency, yeah

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Early homing torpedos had that tendency, yeah

They did. However, own goals aside, the torpedo was effective enough that countermeasures were developed. Both the Royal Navy and the Royal Canadian Navy developed decoys (the British "Foxer", and the Canadian CAT-Counter-Acoustic Torpedo....the Royal Canadian Navy was obviously not very creative in the name department),

These were basically metal pipes with holes that were tied and pulled about 200 meters behind the ship. The water going through the holes would produce cavatation sounds that were louder than the ship propellers, making the torpedoes home on them, instead. They had their disadvantages. When they were deployed, ship sonar wouldn't work, the ships couldn't go any faster than 14 knots, and the sound from the noisemakers would be a beacon to any U-Boats in the area.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

gradenko_2000 posted:

Homing torpedoes in WW2? By the Germans? How did those work?

They're these.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






They pick off another supply ship.



We pick off an entire convoy.



This does put the cruisers into bomber range though – the perils of a large reaction range!



The carriers pick off some more ships.



We trade planes over Rabaul.






The I-20 gets battered.



It also looks like I missed a supply convoy when I cancelled them all for the area.






We had another good day sinking our foes!



I'll take ratios like this any day of the week.

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
Man, this game is easy, I haven't seen the KB in six months and PNG is almost mine



how did it end up down south of me when I've had Rabaul under recon for months :wtc:

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Ocean big.

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
Plane small.

Triggerhappypilot
Nov 8, 2009

SVMS-01 UNION FLAG GREATEST MOBILE SUIT

ENACT = CHEAP EUROTRASH COPY




Woodchip posted:

Man, this game is easy, I haven't seen the KB in six months and PNG is almost mine



how did it end up down south of me when I've had Rabaul under recon for months :wtc:

The KB is very, very fast. It can zoom into your search perimeter at night and then react into your ships during the day phase.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


The bright side is if the KB is wrecking you in one area, your remaining carriers can gently caress 'em up in another.....if you have any

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:




Those were really good in Silent Hunter 3. Just launch a bunch of them into a convoy and sink stuff. Mostly the destroyers.
But they were fun to use.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

Those search pattern torpedoes: they'd do an U-turn after set distance.

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Their sailing another convoy right past/into Rabaul....



Even my Zero's can't match the Spits.



Shoot the tankers you idiots!



We do strike that convoy – with Bellatrix and Terror there, I wonder if Admiral He Who Shall No Be Named is commanding.



Helens only seem to exist to get shot down.






Good showing guys!



They can't save the crippled ship that has taken refuge there though. That is to much to ask.






This is becoming a normal day now.

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