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The best filler ep of all time is when Goku and Piccolo have to learn to drive a car.
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Blue Moonlight posted:First Contact was fun, but pretty bog-standard action-adventure. Nemesis is what happens when you let a fanboy take the reins and basically have to bribe half your cast to do it at all. first contact was almost a good tng movie but it settled for being a decent action-adventure film instead imuo even in the tng/ds9 era the federation was capable of acting in reasoned, rational self-defense on the rare occasion when opponents would leave them no choice and we'd get sick nasty war sequences of ships blowing the piss out of each other, the problem with first contact was they turned it into acting in passionate self defense by having picard scream while cutting down swaths of borg because apparently he has an irrational personal vendetta now while other dudes dropped action movie one liners - when the crew briefly glimpsed the assimilated future earth knowing that billions of sentient lives had been enslaved, billions more would never come to be and that humanity's bright future was stolen from it in one swoop that ethical catastrophe should have been enough for everyone to realize the gravity of the situation and recognize they could not allow such a thing to pass regardless of the personal sacrifices involved; with a few tweaks imuo you could easily get movie that pleases fans and casual audiences
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Mar 11, 2018 20:43
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veni veni veni posted:PHUO the only star trek thing that isn't super boring and lame is the whale movie.
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Mar 11, 2018 21:47
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All Star Trek things are boring and lovely. Except the Black Mirror ep if you count that. Accurate depiction of a Trek liking person imo.
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Mar 11, 2018 21:59
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Watch Mindhunter for a real look into the Trekkie mind.
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Mar 11, 2018 22:03
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DS9 is good show, but I can understand why Star Trek fans forget about it. Everyone cares about Spock and Kirk but not Bashir and Kira Nerys who are way more interesting. Kira is a god drat legit terrorist who has admitted to killing countless children and civilians and she's one of the good guys in a Star Trek show. Gene Roddenberry would have had a stroke if he saw it.
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Mar 12, 2018 01:13
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Says You is the most offensive radio show on the air today.
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Mar 12, 2018 01:19
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Childrens Hospital is one of the best TV shows of the last decade. The movie "Don't Think Twice" is really well-made for what it is, but half the main cast is 15-20 years older than the roles call for and it drags the whole thing down. I'm sorry Keegan but you look and move like a 45 year-old, quit playing a doe-eyed 20 year old discovering the big leagues are rough.
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Mar 12, 2018 07:47
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mind the walrus posted:Childrens Hospital is one of the best TV shows of the last decade. I'm going to watch this now because you and others have said this.
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Mar 12, 2018 07:52
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It isn't all gold, but there's a lot of genius little jokes all throughout. Also Erin Hayes is a goddamn comedic beast and it is no surprise Kevin James fired her from his lukewarm sitcom.
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Mar 12, 2018 08:02
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mind the walrus posted:Childrens Hospital is one of the best TV shows of the last decade. I think this is only an unpopular opinion because not enough people watched Childrens Hospital
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Mar 12, 2018 12:31
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Family Matters is the best television show of whatever decade it was made in. I like to do the urkel.
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Mar 12, 2018 12:34
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mind the walrus posted:Childrens Hospital is one of the best TV shows of the last decade. I thought everyone in that movie was supposed to be sad, aging comic failures?
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Mar 12, 2018 14:27
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hard counter posted:first contact was almost a good tng movie but it settled for being a decent action-adventure film instead imuo That's the thing, though: it's not an irrational personal vendetta. He was essentially raped by the Borg. They captured him, turned him into one of them, and then forced him to help them devastate part of his own fleet. It's perfectly understandable that Picard would have been traumatized by that and would react that way if the Borg were invading his ship, which he probably saw as an extension of himself. First Contact is the best of the TNG movies. It still doesn't rise to the level of a Wrath of Khan, but it's better than any of the other TNG movies.
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Mar 12, 2018 16:21
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Picard already went through the trauma and found peace in himself in the episode where he hangs out in his family vineyard. Then the movie comes out and he's a raging killing machine again.
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Mar 12, 2018 16:54
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Trauma never leaves you, and while crying in the mud with your brother is good for you, it's not gonna fix everything. If the Borg show up again, it's gonna be a problem.
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Mar 12, 2018 17:04
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"Fly" is one of the best episodes in BB.
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^ Exactly. The fact that it all came back to Picard in First Contact and retraumatized him is probably very true to real life situations. Experiences like that are not easily shaken off, and Star Trek writers deserve a lot of credit for not letting the Locutus experiences become simply a one-off after a couple of episodes.
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Mar 12, 2018 17:16
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Chernabog posted:"Fly" is one of the best episodes in BB. I skip it every time I rewatch it  It's better than the finale though. yeah I eat ass has a new favorite as of 17:20 on Mar 12, 2018 |
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Mar 12, 2018 17:18
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I skip it every time I rewatch it now THAT might be the most controversial opinion ever posted in this thread
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Mar 12, 2018 17:43
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:^ Exactly. The fact that it all came back to Picard in First Contact and retraumatized him is probably very true to real life situations. Experiences like that are not easily shaken off, and Star Trek writers deserve a lot of credit for not letting the Locutus experiences become simply a one-off after a couple of episodes. They had multiple episodes about Picard's relationship with the Borg after that. There was the one where he recovered in the family vineyard, then there was the whole Hu episode where Picard's entire arc was about learning to see the Borg as something other than a threat, and then there were a couple more episodes where he dealt with the Borg afterwards and he was rational about it. First Contact ignored all that. Like, even to the point where in First Contact they say that the Enterprise wasn't summoned to help fight the Borg because the Federation was worried that Picard would be irrational after getting assimilated, despite the fact that in the show the Enterprise was summoned to help fight the Borg and Picard's assimilation was barely mentioned.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:That's the thing, though: it's not an irrational personal vendetta. He was essentially raped by the Borg. the problem most people have is there's been a few borg-centric episodes since that two-parter and picard managed to keep his usual levelheadedness, calm and sound judgement in all of them, even showing mercy to the entire collective when presented with a chance to destroy them all once he realizes individual borg aren't evil but are trapped in an evil system that could plausibly change since its individuals can change to a degree, whereas the movie framed it as an experience that seriously unhinged him in his dealings with the borg to the point of damaging his rep with starfleet, at least until he let go nearer to the end it's a relatively small gripe, first contact is one of the few trek movies in general my more casual audience friends like, but it has conceits that arguably misrepresents characters and misses the particular spirit of tng over the other treks - like why would you use the tng property for your movie if not to embrace its particular ethos? - so i can see why fans weren't pleased, it'd be real easy to tweak a few things tho imuo
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Mar 12, 2018 20:14
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I don't really believe people when they say they can't listen to something or watch something because of _______ thing the artist did. I think it's a cheap dopamine release and basically the left wing equivalent of talking about the good ol days.
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Mar 13, 2018 17:52
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I think Patrick Stewart just wanted to be an action star while he could.
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Mar 13, 2018 17:59
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I only consume problematic media, and I'm both stronger and better than everyone because of it.
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Guy Goodbody posted:They had multiple episodes about Picard's relationship with the Borg after that. There was the one where he recovered in the family vineyard, then there was the whole Hu episode where Picard's entire arc was about learning to see the Borg as something other than a threat, and then there were a couple more episodes where he dealt with the Borg afterwards and he was rational about it. Well, Hugh was a single Borg. That's a much less stressful episode than the Borg not only traveling back in time to alter human history, but systematically taking over your ship. So it's possible that the stress retraumatized Picard and caused him to act out.
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hawowanlawow posted:I don't really believe people when they say they can't listen to something or watch something because of _______ thing the artist did. I think it's a cheap dopamine release and basically the left wing equivalent of talking about the good ol days. Woody Allen is pedophile who groomed his daughter, and the fact that he's still lauded as a great director and attends fancy parties with his child-bride on his arm is disgusting. I don't care how good Manhattan is, there are thousands of good movies that weren't made by open and unrepentant pedophiles.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Woody Allen is pedophile who groomed his daughter, and the fact that he's still lauded as a great director and attends fancy parties with his child-bride on his arm is disgusting. I don't care how good Manhattan is, there are thousands of good movies that weren't made by open and unrepentant pedophiles. I mean, if the rumors about Hollywood are to be believed...
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Guy Goodbody posted:Woody Allen is pedophile who groomed his daughter, and the fact that he's still lauded as a great director and attends fancy parties with his child-bride on his arm is disgusting. I don't care how good Manhattan is, there are thousands of good movies that weren't made by open and unrepentant pedophiles. people do good and bad things
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Mar 13, 2018 19:17
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't care how good _________ is just think about this phrase
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Mar 13, 2018 19:31
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hawowanlawow posted:just think about this phrase Yeah man I mean Mussolini made the trains run on time
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Mar 13, 2018 19:34
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah man I mean Mussolini made the trains run on time you're missing the second part of what I'm mocking, which would be "therefore, making trains run on time is bad" making trains run on time = good being a fascist = bad they are unrelated
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Mar 13, 2018 19:35
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah man I mean Mussolini made the trains run on time He actually didn’t though, so there’s really no defense for his regime. Seriously, I love how that’s like the go to example for how at the very least fascism is efficient and it actually proves the opposite.
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Mar 13, 2018 19:38
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Cloud Atlas is a great movie.
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Mar 13, 2018 19:39
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hawowanlawow posted:people do good and bad things Making some decent movies and having a good take about how to handle nazis doesn't quite outweigh literally raising a child to be your wife
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Mar 13, 2018 19:41
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fruit on the bottom posted:He actually didn’t though, so there’s really no defense for his regime. Maybe if enough people believe it, it becomes true.
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Mar 13, 2018 19:43
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MizPiz posted:Making some decent movies and having a good take about how to handle nazis doesn't quite outweigh literally raising a child to be your wife they don't have to outweigh each other, they are unrelated implying that liking a movie someone made is essentially going to bat for the person who made it is disingenuous and self serving hawowanlawow has a new favorite as of 19:46 on Mar 13, 2018 |
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Mar 13, 2018 19:44
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What if you don't want to financially support that person by not giving them money
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Mar 13, 2018 19:47
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Mu Zeta posted:What if you don't want to financially support that person by not giving them money wait until they die
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Mu Zeta posted:What if you don't want to financially support that person by not giving them money You just have to accept that you will always be giving money to bad people, and choose to not feel bad about it.
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