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dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.
If I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times: make daal tarka. It's such a mind-numbingly simple recipe (cook lentils, fry spices in fat--usually just some cumin seed--dump atop lentils, salt to taste, eat) but it showcases the heart of Indian food. That is, humble ingredients elevated to their best form through the clever use of spices. The Northern curries are great, but I feel like they rely a bit too heavily on cream and butter to get there. You throw enough butter at anything, and it's going to be good. The central and southern Indian vegetable dishes I feel like are fairly easy to make, but really let the ingredients stand on their own. Or, why not both? Do a complex, multi step, 30 - 40 spices needed curry, but serve it with a really simple side dish or two.

Seriously though, however you slice it, Indian food is endlessly fascinating and fun to learn to make. :)

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SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg

Cloks posted:

Looks like a sizzle pan for serving fajitas.

That was my first thought, but it seems a little shallow for that to me. I don't have much experience with fajita pans, though.

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

In my pile of random crap in the basement, I have pan with that exact shape, except it's heavy aluminum. Plain anodized surface, no non-stick. No idea what its for, or where it came from.


dino. posted:

If I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times: make daal tarka. It's such a mind-numbingly simple recipe (cook lentils, fry spices in fat--usually just some cumin seed--dump atop lentils, salt to taste, eat) but it showcases the heart of Indian food. That is, humble ingredients elevated to their best form through the clever use of spices. The Northern curries are great, but I feel like they rely a bit too heavily on cream and butter to get there. You throw enough butter at anything, and it's going to be good. The central and southern Indian vegetable dishes I feel like are fairly easy to make, but really let the ingredients stand on their own. Or, why not both? Do a complex, multi step, 30 - 40 spices needed curry, but serve it with a really simple side dish or two.

Seriously though, however you slice it, Indian food is endlessly fascinating and fun to learn to make. :)

I'm consistently shocked by how many white people in the Boston area are scared of Indian food and refuse to try it. I just don't get it, we have some of the best Indian restaurants and markets in the whole USA. We have such good options!

An Indian friend of mine told me this story: she travels to India 2-3 times a year for business, and her grandmother was always sending her a list of spices and dry goods to bring back. She hated this, as it interfered with getting work done. Finally, when Apna Bazar opened in Norwood, she took her grandmother there, and that was the end of bringing stuff back from India. Her grandmother agreed that the selection, prices, and freshness was actually better then most of what she used to source from the India.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003

Squashy Nipples posted:

In my pile of random crap in the basement, I have pan with that exact shape, except it's heavy aluminum. Plain anodized surface, no non-stick. No idea what its for, or where it came from.


I'm consistently shocked by how many white people in the Boston area are scared of Indian food and refuse to try it. I just don't get it, we have some of the best Indian restaurants and markets in the whole USA. We have such good options!

An Indian friend of mine told me this story: she travels to India 2-3 times a year for business, and her grandmother was always sending her a list of spices and dry goods to bring back. She hated this, as it interfered with getting work done. Finally, when Apna Bazar opened in Norwood, she took her grandmother there, and that was the end of bringing stuff back from India. Her grandmother agreed that the selection, prices, and freshness was actually better then most of what she used to source from the India.

Boston white guy eating Indian food checking in. Do you have any recommendations for markets? I've been hitting up Shalimar in Central Sq. and some random shops in the suburbs when I run out of hing or whatever. Most frustrating: I can never find fresh curry leaves in any major grocery stores.

Also: Punjabi dhaba is clearly the best.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Squashy Nipples posted:

In my pile of random crap in the basement, I have pan with that exact shape, except it's heavy aluminum. Plain anodized surface, no non-stick. No idea what its for, or where it came from.


I'm consistently shocked by how many white people in the Boston area are scared of Indian food and refuse to try it. I just don't get it, we have some of the best Indian restaurants and markets in the whole USA. We have such good options!

An Indian friend of mine told me this story: she travels to India 2-3 times a year for business, and her grandmother was always sending her a list of spices and dry goods to bring back. She hated this, as it interfered with getting work done. Finally, when Apna Bazar opened in Norwood, she took her grandmother there, and that was the end of bringing stuff back from India. Her grandmother agreed that the selection, prices, and freshness was actually better then most of what she used to source from the India.

The place in Waltham has consistently been amazing for spices, too.

And, agreed, there's a ton of good indian places near us!

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

Jewmanji posted:

Boston white guy eating Indian food checking in. Do you have any recommendations for markets? I've been hitting up Shalimar in Central Sq. and some random shops in the suburbs when I run out of hing or whatever. Most frustrating: I can never find fresh curry leaves in any major grocery stores.

Also: Punjabi dhaba is clearly the best.

The problem is, most of my suggestions are South Shore based, I haven't lived in Boston for a long time.


That said, Punjabi Dhaba is good, and very consistent. If you want sit down Punjabi cuisine, I would suggest Punjab Cafe in Arlington:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/punjab-arlington-2

There is a market next to H Mart in Central Square, but I haven't shopped there... If I'm in that neighborhood, I'm there to shop at H Mart.

Here are the two Indian markets that I like best:

South Shore India in Braintree
https://www.yelp.com/biz/south-shore-india-market-braintree
Produce quality varies, but they have a good selection. They have a full Halal meat counter in back, and a deli counter with hot food.


Apna Bazar in Norwood
https://www.yelp.com/biz/apna-bazar-norwood
Can be a little pricey, but you can't beat the selection. Everything you could ever want.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Is the dal recipe in the OP going to be more of a soup or thicker curry texture? My wife is Baha’i and at their feasts there would always be dal. I want to try making it, but she said it was the thicker kind and I want to make sure I get it right.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

22 Eargesplitten posted:

Is the dal recipe in the OP going to be more of a soup or thicker curry texture? My wife is Baha’i and at their feasts there would always be dal. I want to try making it, but she said it was the thicker kind and I want to make sure I get it right.
It's whatever you get when you add however much water you add. "The thicker kind" doesn't exactly narrow it down to one kind of dal.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Ah, okay. I guess it will be trial and error then. Her family stopped going a long time ago and she's not Persian herself so she doesn't have a family recipe or anything. I'll find a recipe that's noted as a Persian style and hope that it's close.

Thankfully we have a couple pretty decent Asian markets for a town our size that have a ton of whole spices, more obscure prices, and ghee that doesn't cost $Whole Foods. We've also got a Sprouts nearby that has bulk lentils.

Does this recipe look like it would be suitable for a spice wimp? https://turmericsaffron.blogspot.com/2010/11/dal-adas-southern-iranian-style-red.html

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Apr 22, 2018

TheNothingNew
Nov 10, 2008
I have no opinion on the spices, but making your own ghee isn't hard or expensive, just time-consuming.

http://goonswithspoons.com/w/index.php?title=Clarified_Butter&hsa=1

I do four sticks at a time, whatever unsalted butter I can find that is cheapest. So that's $3-4 plus some time for ~half a mason jar of ghee.
Same thing plus spices gets you niter qibe for African cooking.

Don't need to spoon it off the solids at the end; I find that straining through a double layer of cheesecloth works just fine.

Also thank you to whoever maintains the goons with spoons wiki, I use it on the regular.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Huh, interesting.

I bought maybe a half pint of ghee for $7 yesterday anyway.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Double posting because I live on the edge and follow my own rules.

My wife made it a couple nights ago. Fantastic even though she forgot the onion. I think she cut the red pepper in half, which is fine by me. I could take it hotter, but even medium salsa is too much for her so we make food for the weakest tongue.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

Double posting because I live on the edge and follow my own rules.

My wife made it a couple nights ago. Fantastic even though she forgot the onion. I think she cut the red pepper in half, which is fine by me. I could take it hotter, but even medium salsa is too much for her so we make food for the weakest tongue.

Sounds good! You definitely want some onion in there though. Very important. People in India literally riot when onions are threatened.

If you want an easy way to add heat without messing too bad with flavor for the individual pallete, get some chilli oil and drop on to your liking.

I'm gonna try again to make Boyfriend Dal this week. He makes the bast drat Dal I've ever tasted, and I just can't get the trick of it.

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

When I saw this recipe on my subscriptions, I decided to make it because it looked great. I don't have access to any dried fenugreek leaves in spite of living in a big Bangladeshi neighborhood, so I skipped that. I added additional chili powder. Oh, and I replaced the gulab jamun with chicken breast, because I'm a carnivore. Turned out very well, and spicy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXO988vLRG8

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

I've got a bunch of Indian recipes that generically call for "dried chilies" (like that helps me much). I've had pretty bad luck buying random bags from the grocery store, most being pretty tasteless or devoid of spice entirely. Say for example I have a Vindaloo recipe that calls for "20 dried chilies", can anyone recommend for me what I should be looking for? Or some I could pick up from amazon that would taste good?

Alternatively, should I just substitute some chili powder instead?

I'm still just getting started with Indian cooking so I'm trying to figure out how to manage all these different spices and how much to get or how long they keep etc.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

I've got a bunch of Indian recipes that generically call for "dried chilies" (like that helps me much). I've had pretty bad luck buying random bags from the grocery store, most being pretty tasteless or devoid of spice entirely. Say for example I have a Vindaloo recipe that calls for "20 dried chilies", can anyone recommend for me what I should be looking for? Or some I could pick up from amazon that would taste good?

Alternatively, should I just substitute some chili powder instead?

I'm still just getting started with Indian cooking so I'm trying to figure out how to manage all these different spices and how much to get or how long they keep etc.

What kind of ethnic markets do you have around you? That's usually the best place to find spices. Buying from Amazon is going to be a crapshoot because you have no idea how long it's been sitting on a shelf.

If you don't have an Indian market maybe you have a Mexican market or a Chinese market? Chiles de árbol are going to be pretty close to dried Indian Chilies, Thai birds eye chilies and the Korean and Chinese dried chilies will probably be farther off but acceptable.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

We've got lots of ethnic markets around here but I haven't had a chance to stop in at an Indian one yet. I'm not sure what varieties of Indian chilies I should be looking for specifically though, once I get out to one.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

We've got lots of ethnic markets around here but I haven't had a chance to stop in at an Indian one yet. I'm not sure what varieties of Indian chilies I should be looking for specifically though, once I get out to one.

Definitely check it out, the prices on spices will be shockingly tiny. The long, thin red chilies are the ones that you're looking for. The fatter Kashmiri chilies are milder and smokier in flavor. They're also tasty and get used in other Indian recipes but the long thin ones are the right kind for Vindaloo.

If you're dead set on buying online this is the right kind:
https://www.amazon.com/Swad-Chillies-3-5oz-Indian-Groceries/dp/B00BLBJOO0

Leviathan Song fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 2, 2018

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Cool, thanks. I'll see if I can't pick up everything I need at the local market, just as soon as I figure out how to organize all these extra spices I need :v:

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Leviathan Song posted:

Definitely check it out, the prices on spices will be shockingly tiny.

there's a dude in Phoenix who I'm almost certain was smuggling things or laundering money because his saffron prices were impossible

never reported him to the feds, though, because i like spices

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Trash saffron, sometimes dyed with tumeric if they're super sketchy, is mad cheap

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


My friend's mom took a trip to Malta or Cypress or somewhere and came back with a pound of "saffron" and was like "It was only $50! Those people are so stupid!"

It looked as if someone had dyed hamster bedding with turmeric.

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Is there a good place online to buy some solid jaggery that can be eaten like pieces of fudge?

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Vindaloo turned out good :buddy:


Wondering about the color though, as mine came out a pretty dark brown overall. Restaurants around here are typically a very bright red, is that likely a major difference in recipe? Or type of ingredient maybe? It definitely tasted great so no complaints about that part.


Still working on a storage solution for all these loose spices, just got piles of mini tupperware containers doing the job for now.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Pretty sure a bunch of restaurants just use food colouring. It definitely is a thing with tandoori chicken.

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

Yup, red food coloring. I once saw into the kitchen at one of my favorite Indian joints, and they had shelf with GALLONS of red food coloring.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Oh, bleh. Guess I'll just enjoy my brown colored Vindaloo as is then. Or maybe add some more chilies to brighten it up a bit what could go wrong :supaburn:

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
idk how red it would make your vindaloo, but kashmiri chili powder is used in India to give foods colour. It's hot but not hot hot hot

SymmetryrtemmyS
Jul 13, 2013

I got super tired of seeing your avatar throwing those fuckin' glasses around in the astrology thread so I fixed it to a .jpg
Kashmiri mirch will make it a bit redder, and adding some turmeric will give you a nice golden hue. Or you can dehumanize yourself and face to food coloring.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

qkkl posted:

Is there a good place online to buy some solid jaggery that can be eaten like pieces of fudge?
I haven't eaten jaggery straight and I haven't shopped from Patel Bros. online (only in person), but in general they can hook you up

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

I've got a bag of kashmiri powder already so I'll give a little of that a go next time. Another question though, if I want to add some vegetables to the vindaloo, should I just follow general stew simmer times? So like, ~30-40 minutes for potatoes?

fr0id
Jul 27, 2016

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Qubee posted:

goan fish curry will forever change your life and raise your standards for flavour and yumminess of food, full stop.

Need a link to a good recipe, thank you. First thing I found on google called for low-fat cooking spray and I immediately clicked out. I don’t know a good general source for Indian recipes if you could help with that too

Qubee
May 31, 2013




fr0id posted:

Need a link to a good recipe, thank you. First thing I found on google called for low-fat cooking spray and I immediately clicked out. I don’t know a good general source for Indian recipes if you could help with that too

it was in a recipe book my mum made, but it's been so long I can't remember if I made it myself or if I ate it whilst I was visiting family.

my mum has tonnes of old indian cookbooks, I'd ask her to take a photo of it but every time I ask for recipe photos, she either forgets or doesn't know how to.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I just made the best daal I've ever made in my life. I wanted to share.

It has lentils, wild rice, some garden vegetables, curry leaves, and a ton of ghee tarka.

Thanks, dino! You got me thinking about it with a recent post.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

1) I have a recipe for Malai Kofta here that calls for ghiya (winter melon), which I have not seen around here. Any idea what kind of suitable replacements there might be?

2) I made some lamb kabobs the other day, they tasted absolutely amaizing but they just would not hold together at all. Not sure if I got too much moisture (too much onions maybe) or what. But I should be able to add an egg yolk and some breadcrumbs to help things hold together right?

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
What's something I can make with dried green split peas? I think I bought them thinking they were akin to one of the daals. It'd be extra helpful if it's low fat, too.

TheNothingNew
Nov 10, 2008

QuarkMartial posted:

What's something I can make with dried green split peas? I think I bought them thinking they were akin to one of the daals. It'd be extra helpful if it's low fat, too.

Not Indian, but split pea soup is all I can think of for dried green peas.
Here's my go-to recipe:
https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/recipe/slow-cooker-split-pea-soup

For low-fat (kinda-sorta), I recommend using diced smoked turkey rather than ham hocks

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Saffron for a Biryani, should I be looking for Kashmiri saffron? I couldn't find any at the Indian market or at Penzy's, should I just try my chances on Amazon?

I did try some Spanish saffron previously and it uh... didn't taste real good.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Saffron for a Biryani, should I be looking for Kashmiri saffron? I couldn't find any at the Indian market or at Penzy's, should I just try my chances on Amazon?

I did try some Spanish saffron previously and it uh... didn't taste real good.

If you bought cheap saffron it was almost certainly fake.

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dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Saffron for a Biryani, should I be looking for Kashmiri saffron? I couldn't find any at the Indian market or at Penzy's, should I just try my chances on Amazon?

I did try some Spanish saffron previously and it uh... didn't taste real good.

Unless you’ve got a very good spice purveyor, you won’t find Kashmiri saffron. It’s heart stoppingly expensive. If you can get Iranian saffron, it’s really good stuff. But whatever you do, don’t get saffron from the grocery store. Get it from either a specialty spice seller, or an ethnic market.

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