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brugroffil posted:That guy owns and I'm voting for him for every office When he got to the "you don't have to deal with Madigan because *poof* now he is in another state entirely!" I was ... taken aback.
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Hey y’all the 21st (Illinois public radio show about politics) interviewed everyone running for governor (except Rainer who wouldn’t return their calls for some reason heh) and put them and bios etc up on their webpage if you want to hear from the candidates in their own words: https://will.illinois.edu/21stshow/program/our-interviews-with-seven-of-the-candidates-for-illinois-governor Also you should really be listening to the 21st if you want to really be informed on what’s up in Springfield.
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Mar 10, 2018 03:19
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I'm listening to those interviews and lol Jeanne Ives sounds like a literal crazy person. Pritzker said all the right things, but I still don't want to vote for a billionaire.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:53
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Oracle posted:Also you should really be listening to the 21st if you want to really be informed on what’s up in Springfield. How often do they do political segments? I’m not sure I could keep up with a daily, I mostly just listen to State Week.
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Mar 10, 2018 21:33
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DalaranJ posted:How often do they do political segments? I’m not sure I could keep up with a daily, I mostly just listen to State Week. State Week is also good and there's a lot of overlap (I think half the hosts are the same). It seems like every show has some mention of something or other going on political-wise. You can check out their webpage for synopsis of shows if you're real hard up for time. They play during the lunch hour near me so its fairly easy to have it on in the car on background or whatever. Speaking of which, they also did a series of interviews with the Atty Gen candidates.
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Mar 11, 2018 07:43
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Been seeing a fresh wave of shots against Kennedy from both Pritzker and Biss. Presumably trying to break any chance he has to act as a spoiler for the other.
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Mar 11, 2018 18:26
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Local UFO Enthusiast and Believer in Ghosts Endorses Chris Kennedy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7jclPo28fY
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Mar 12, 2018 04:54
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Looks like that progressive tax may be finally coming...but it hits middle and even a lot of low income earners hard. Sorry if this has been talked about here already but a year after a big tax hike, and right after the SALT limits were imposed, this...this is something. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=3522&GAID=14&GA=100&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=105373&SessionID=91 Starting with people who make less than $18k, it's a tax hike. If you make $30k, half of your income will be taxed at 1.32% over the current rate. edit: specifically, from $15k-$250k the rate is 6.27%. 
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Mar 12, 2018 20:17
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No way that makes it at those numbers.
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Mar 12, 2018 20:22
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Isn't a progressive income tax unconstitutional? Not seeing how the bill gets past that.
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Mar 12, 2018 20:41
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I just got SMS spammed from JB Pritzker. Not sure if it's automated or just campaign workers sending them out and responding. No idea how they got my number.
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Mar 12, 2018 22:59
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Niwrad posted:I just got SMS spammed from JB Pritzker. Not sure if it's automated or just campaign workers sending them out and responding. No idea how they got my number. Did you donate to any Democrats in the last 10 years? If so that's how.
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Mar 12, 2018 23:03
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Nail Rat posted:Looks like that progressive tax may be finally coming...but it hits middle and even a lot of low income earners hard. Sorry if this has been talked about here already but a year after a big tax hike, and right after the SALT limits were imposed, this...this is something. 6.25%. But it looks like its gonna die in committee hasn't moved since 2/14. And yeah like every other attempt at this it'll be unconstitutional. So sayeth the Illinois Constitution: quote:SECTION 3. LIMITATIONS ON INCOME TAXATION
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Mar 12, 2018 23:09
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Why did they write that provision anyway, so dumb
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Mar 13, 2018 00:21
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I doubt anyone will get an amendment to remove the flat tax passed. They could expand the state tax exemptions and deductions without any tricks or constitutional problems, though.
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Mar 13, 2018 00:27
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They could tax pensions so that people who collect them are paying taxes like the rest of us.
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Mar 13, 2018 01:02
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Actually they could tax other retirement accounts (401K and traditional IRA) too like almost every other state does. Illinois has hundreds of people who have income over a million dollars a year from retirement accounts that don't pay a cent of it in taxes. It's one of the dumbest loving things the state does. God forbid we tax upper-middle class and rich people in this state.
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Mar 13, 2018 01:11
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Oracle posted:Hey y’all the 21st (Illinois public radio show about politics) interviewed everyone running for governor (except Rainer who wouldn’t return their calls for some reason heh) and put them and bios etc up on their webpage if you want to hear from the candidates in their own words: Thanks again for suggesting good information sources. I still feel super ill-informed when it comes to commenting on the state's budget problems, but I am doing my best. When it comes to the Governors race I automatically feel my lip curl when I see commercials for Pritzker, despite knowing almost nothing about him, I am just inherently mistrusting of mega-wealthy running for public office.
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Uroboros posted:Thanks again for suggesting good information sources. But still, come November, there'll be a billionaire who's already wrecked the state, versus - maybe - a billionaire who hasn't, and is at least saying the right things.
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Mar 13, 2018 19:21
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That wttw interview with Ives was really bad. Tons of softball questions, didn't press hard on anything and even apologized for asking about her voting record.
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Mar 14, 2018 01:28
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Pritzker's all TAKE MY MONEY as the primary winds down:quote:Democratic governor candidate Chris Kennedy on Friday accused rival J.B. Pritzker of “buying off” elected officials, including local African-American leaders as part of an “apology tour” over 2008 remarks about potential black successors to Barack Obama’s U.S. Senate seat. the kicker: quote:Kennedy, an heir to the iconic Massachusetts political family, is counting heavily on support from African-Americans. Kennedy’s father, the late U.S. Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, and uncle, the late President John F. Kennedy, were major figures in the struggle for civil rights.
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Mar 14, 2018 01:31
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Niwrad posted:Actually they could tax other retirement accounts (401K and traditional IRA) too like almost every other state does. Illinois has hundreds of people who have income over a million dollars a year from retirement accounts that don't pay a cent of it in taxes. It's one of the dumbest loving things the state does. God forbid we tax upper-middle class and rich people in this state. Those are the people that make big contributions and buy expensive plates at fundraising dinners though!
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Mar 14, 2018 16:52
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soooo JB lied about all his offshore money being trusts that he inherited. he's involved with multiple offshore companies started within the last decade. billionaires! http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...impression=true “Illinois is bankrupt-plus. You have a hell of a problem. And the question you have to put is: You may want to come in with a platform of raising taxes, but why don’t you begin with telling us how you’ve escaped taxation by being offshore?” Blum said. “How are you separating yourself from the common man here?”
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Mar 14, 2018 17:43
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The Illinois gubernatorial race really is Kang vs Kodos.
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Mar 14, 2018 17:52
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And my inherent distrust of the ultra-rich comes through in spades again! If only votes mattered more than campaign contributions we could do something about it. Isn't democracy wonderful?
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Mar 14, 2018 18:10
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Feudalism by another name
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Mar 14, 2018 18:26
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An ultra wealthy politician hoovering sympathy votes with a heartstrings tugging ad campaign, it's worked a million times before and will continue working until long after we're all dead. The worst part is they wouldn't do it if it weren't so effective.
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Mar 14, 2018 18:37
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Politics in this state is such a loving joke. This election is awful.
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Mar 14, 2018 18:41
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I only wish this came out maybe a week ago, to catch more early voters. My gut tells my JB still wins the primary, but I hope not.
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Bird in a Blender posted:I only wish this came out maybe a week ago, to catch more early voters. My gut tells my JB still wins the primary, but I hope not. I don't think it's any coincidence at all that the Trib was the one to drop this 6 days before the primary. I mean, it's awesome he's getting called the gently caress out, but there's no way this wasn't a calculated move by what has become a right wing soapbox in many ways.
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Mar 14, 2018 19:20
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If they really wanted to gently caress with him they would have released it right when early voting started.
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Big Black Dick posted:I don't think it's any coincidence at all that the Trib was the one to drop this 6 days before the primary. I mean, it's awesome he's getting called the gently caress out, but there's no way this wasn't a calculated move by what has become a right wing soapbox in many ways. Oh I'm definitely not shocked this came from the Trib. I feel like they have definitely tried to get Pritzker more than a few times.
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Big Black Dick posted:And my inherent distrust of the ultra-rich comes through in spades again! If only votes mattered more than campaign contributions we could do something about it. Isn't democracy wonderful? Billionaires are no longer human and should be treated as such.
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They do get super/non-human treatment. They're immune to law enforcement and get enormous bonuses when they fail at their job.
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Big Black Dick posted:I don't think it's any coincidence at all that the Trib was the one to drop this 6 days before the primary. I mean, it's awesome he's getting called the gently caress out, but there's no way this wasn't a calculated move by what has become a right wing soapbox in many ways. 'Become' would insinuate they weren't always a right-wing rag.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:10
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Oracle posted:'Become' would insinuate they weren't always a right-wing rag. My work gets the Trib delivered every day, so I peruse it at work. Some things I read and think they're not that bad. Then I see the headline for the John Kass column and I try to keep my head from exploding. The guy follows the right wing talking points to a tee. Today was a thing saying that Elizabeth Warren should get a DNA test to prove if she's Native American.
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Mar 14, 2018 21:28
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Kass is such a huge piece of poo poo lol
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Mar 14, 2018 21:34
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I don't get the Trib but are they all Op-eds Because 99% of all opeds are trash
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Mar 14, 2018 21:46
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Kass I think is strictly op-ed, but he gets a prominent position. He's on page 2, where the rest of the op-eds are back on like page 10 or something.
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Bird in a Blender posted:Kass I think is strictly op-ed, but he gets a prominent position. He's on page 2, where the rest of the op-eds are back on like page 10 or something. Yeah Kass is one of those 'lifestyle' columnist types. He's got ins with the cops and the pols and has covered local politics for years (he joined the Trib in 1980) so he has a lot of insider news on it but he's typical Repub. The reporting at the Tribune is solid but the Op-Ed and columnists are all rock-ribbed Repubs as are the owners.
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