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Afterbirth Aftermath
Aug 29, 2002

Grittybeard posted:

Feel free to take Vick's word for it instead of mine.

Vick used to say his brother Marcus was better than him too, that clearly was never true.

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The Notorious ZSB
Apr 19, 2004

I SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA BE FUCKING SUCK THIS YEAR!!!

Afterbirth Aftermath posted:

Vick used to say his brother Marcus was better than him too, that clearly was never true.

I mean he was a more polished passer coming into college than his older brother, but he was never better.

I will maintain if he hadn't been a dumbass VT prb plays for a natty in 06 and he likely ends up a top QB pick in that draft instead of washing out as a WR and being on the run from the police the rest of his adult life.

Honestly knowing Marcus, he probably would have ended up running from the police even if he'd been a player that got paid.

To the point about the comment, I think Lamar is def a lot of what Vick would have looked like in a modern open offense. He's not crazy for saying at that point in their careers he's probably a better QB than Vick was which might have been his point.

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

Hey everybody, just announcing that the Goon Draft thread is active! Go on and pick your teams, once we get a full roster we'll probably just start rolling.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
If Griffin had two hands, where does he go in the draft? He’s about 20 pounds lighter than the ideal linebacker.

If he has two hands does he try out as a strong safety?

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

If Griffin had two hands, where does he go in the draft? He’s about 20 pounds lighter than the ideal linebacker.

Tough to tell - if he has two hands he's probably playing in a P5 conference so the comparisons are easier.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

If Griffin had two hands, where does he go in the draft? He’s about 20 pounds lighter than the ideal linebacker.

If he has two hands does he try out as a strong safety?

A lot of teams are liking that hybridized role and he has the speed to do it. I'd say late 2nd rounder early 3rd with 2 hands. Probably 4 with one.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
The only thing I remember about Marcus Vick was when he tried to be Mike's hype man on Twitter and everyone was like "lol get outta here"

warcrimes
Jul 6, 2013

I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life. :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

If Griffin had two hands, where does he go in the draft? He’s about 20 pounds lighter than the ideal linebacker.

If he has two hands does he try out as a strong safety?

It's not about his hands, it's about not being able to find a position for him. Too light for a LB, not athletic enough to be a DB. I could see him becoming a pass rush specialist/blitzer. He'd destroy RBs. Other than that, he's going to be a great STer.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/colts/status/975020658945118208

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Oh god the text alert i got made it sound like they traded the #3 for three seconds and didn’t mention the pick swap so I was laughing hysterically.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Alright Bills, the price for #4 just went up. :smug:

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

Jets not having to give a future 1st is big

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
The Broncos just got screwed lol

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

gently caress yeah. This guarantees us either Rosen or Mayfield.

They also did this right after Macc visited both at their Pro Days.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
indy just got a loving megahaul

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/975024219527430145

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS

Diva Cupcake posted:

gently caress yeah. This guarantees us either Rosen or Mayfield.

They also did this right after Macc visited both at their Pro Days.

I'm dumb as hell but if the Jets pick 3rd couldn't those players go 1 and 2

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Miami is going to end up with a fantastic player at 11 at this rate.

Give me Vea or Roquan Smith.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president

nerve posted:

I'm dumb as hell but if the Jets pick 3rd couldn't those players go 1 and 2

They're assuming Darnold going 1 overall

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



That's a really good trade for both teams I think.

Jets desperately need a QB, and the Colts desperately need everything.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
bears should trade up with indy and get chubb after barkley and 4 qbs go 1-5

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Blitz7x posted:

They're assuming Darnold going 1 overall

Woof, who the gently caress knows what Cleveland is gonna do. Least of all Cleveland.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

nerve posted:

I'm dumb as hell but if the Jets pick 3rd couldn't those players go 1 and 2
This assumes Darnold or Allen or Barkley goes #1 which is honestly the only 3 players I’ve seen remotely tied to the top pick.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Bigass Moth posted:

Alright Bills, the price for #4 just went up. :smug:

I would think the opposite.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Cleveland is all but guaranteed to take the wrong QB in a year when the top three or four picks are QB. I have foreseen this.

fsif posted:

I would think the opposite.

Depends whether you think the Giants are getting a QB. They need to get Eli’s successor.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
I've seen two takes here, either the Jets offered the deal to the Giants first and the giants said no (because they're drafting a QB) or the Jets figured the Giants were going Barkley and are still getting one of 3/4 top qbs

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Blitz7x posted:

I've seen two takes here, either the Jets offered the deal to the Giants first and the giants said no (because they're drafting a QB) or the Jets figured the Giants were going Barkley and are still getting one of 3/4 top qbs

They've spent so significantly on scouting Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield/Allen/Jackson, I have to think they are more than happy with plan A, B or C, and wanted to guarantee that they got one of them. Hopefully "them" means Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield, and doesn't include Allen.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Man do I love this move. Macc being aggressive and going up for a QB. They will get Darnold or Rosen now. Could this blow up in their face? Sure but I love the aggressiveness.

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



If they end up taking Josh Allen I'll be pissed. I'm hoping they take Mayfield.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Bigass Moth posted:

Depends whether you think the Giants are getting a QB. They need to get Eli’s successor.

The pick is now behind one of the QB needier teams in the Jets AND the Colts gave away 3 without even picking up an extra first rounder. Its value is completely shot until the first three picks are in on draft day.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
Jets are assuredly going Allen and sitting him behind McCown

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

https://twitter.com/optimumscouting/status/975029254336471040?s=21

lol

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
I’m gonna explode if Gettleman goes non-QB as many have said.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Boosh! posted:

I’m gonna explode if Gettleman goes non-QB as many have said.

Get ready to go boom.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/975034237924462592
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/975035278409662465

lol please kill me.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky

Boosh! posted:

I’m gonna explode if Gettleman goes non-QB as many have said.

here's a tip: no one knows anything

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

It would be so sweet if we moved down and got all those picks, and still were able to get Chubb. So sweet that I can't allow my heart to believe it will happen.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

I love this move for the Jets, though. I think Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield are all #1 overall picks in most year's drafts and New York is now guaranteed one without even having to give up a future first.

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler

corn on the cop posted:

here's a tip: no one knows anything

There are enough tea leaves to make an educated guess, at least.

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pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

ShakeZula posted:

It would be so sweet if we moved down and got all those picks, and still were able to get Chubb. So sweet that I can't allow my heart to believe it will happen.

I'm more leaning towards Barkley after we didn't sign a back like Hyde or Dion Lewis, but I won't be sad if we get Chubb.

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