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Sindai posted:True but it'd be funny if it was just to impress Climb. It is. She's only doing it because that's what Climb's ideal image of Renner would do.
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Mar 14, 2018 18:14
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Does it explain in the book why she's so freaking nuts? I forget.
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drilldo squirt posted:Does it explain in the book why she's so freaking nuts? I forget. As Revaen more or less said. She is a born sociopath. He saw the horrible eyes she possessed since she was a child.
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Mar 15, 2018 01:31
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I love how Ainz is the only one in the room who still hasn't figured what the "sheep" are.
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Maybe sheeple is appropriate for once? 
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I'm genuinely curious what his reaction will be when he finds out. On the one hand, he seems to be the kind of person who'd find that repulsive (a.k.a. a person). On the other hand, he is now a lich with no emotions who is okay with killing a bunch of people if it benefits him.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I'm genuinely curious what his reaction will be when he finds out. He will probably roll with it, not knowing how to address it otherwise. If he does reject it, my guess would be that he justifies trying to finding better materials. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Mar 17, 2018 |
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I'm genuinely curious what his reaction will be when he finds out. Thinking about it logically, it’s a great double whammy for him. Skin harvested for scrolls leaves the skeleton, perfect for a skeletal horde and building a larger army for future conquest.
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Mar 17, 2018 16:31
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Demiurge has been doing a lot more to the "sheep" than just skinning them for scroll materials.
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Mar 17, 2018 16:56
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He turns out to be oddly okay with it.
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ainz might be bothered for 2 seconds but then he'd get over it and go about his day. ainz wasn't a great person to start with, and now he's become completely comfortable with outright evil.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:07
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The constant emotion inhibition and exposures to evil cohorts probably mess up his sense of morality by now.
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Mar 17, 2018 18:24
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I don't think his full morality it is gone, I think it is just completely warped to value the benefit of Nazarick and those under him at the expense of all else. In a twisted way it is still there. That said, he roadrunnered across the line between good and evil a long time ago.
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The focus of the start of this season was Ainz invading and killing the poo poo out of a ton of lizardmen simply to test a hypothesis, and when their leaders tried to surrender his response was "no sorry i'm gonna send my bro cocytus to murder you for no reason except to prove a point about my superiority and your inferiority that really doesn't need proving". He's not a nice guy or anything approaching one and hasn't been since he first walked out of Nazarick in this world, where one of the first things he did was to blow a dude's heart up with a high level spell. Any nice or good things he happens to do are either accidental or done purely out of pride or self-benefit.
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lobster22221 posted:I don't think his full morality it is gone, I think it is just completely warped to value the benefit of Nazarick and those under him at the expense of all else. In a twisted way it is still there. That said, he roadrunnered across the line between good and evil a long time ago. Its never directly said but he never really had a proper morality in the first place. He is from a dark cyberpunk future where corporations rule so his morality is more toward survival of the fittest like the world is functioning in that world in general. He values his friends but hes willing to poo poo on people he doesent know and exploit them for the benefit of the guild.
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i think there's a pretty big difference between pvp in a mmo and mass murder. in fact, those two things are not even vaguely similar?
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There is also the fact that Ainz himself acknowledged his being ok with death and murder and such as odd. When he first saw Carne village being attacked, he was like. "Huh I am strangely unaffected by seeing people get butchered and killed. Must be an effect of my undead body as I was pretty squeamish back in reality." When he goes to the village and kills a guy with grasp heart he was also like "Huh that was really easy to just take someones life, I have no idea I could do it so easily." The plot of a section of the OVA's is that he activates a magic item that restores his emotions, and spends the time waiting for it to wear off trying not to freak out about how disturbing and awful everything is around him is.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I'm genuinely curious what his reaction will be when he finds out. Given his reaction to the skull throne this arc he'd probably want them to find 'better materials' so he could use them. 'Those are human skulls! I can't use that!'
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I think Ainz is simply still in "I'm in a game" mode along with the fact that he's actually and Undead. Plus, I think he already knows that the sheep are people and doesn't really care all that much. He's fully Ainz and no longer the Japanese Salary-Man he was in his old "real life". This isn't a game any more, but he's still playing that part. Undead though. That would be one of the worst things to be stuck as, I think. I have to say that the Princess is one of my favorite characters. I bought the last volume available on Amazon for this and it covers the Princess Reveal. It's creepy and wonderful all at the same time.
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Dan7el posted:Plus, I think he already knows that the sheep are people and doesn't really care all that much. No he is actually just very dense and honestly thinks their chimera's we even hear his thoughts on it. Like seriously Ainz is just really bad at reading people and understanding metaphors and allusions.
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He also didn't want to sit on a throne made of clearly human bones.
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Dan7el posted:I have to say that the Princess is one of my favorite characters. I bought the last volume available on Amazon for this and it covers the Princess Reveal. It's creepy and wonderful all at the same time. Creepy in a good way, not the usual ADTRW/SA creepy way.
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Freaking morons. That is why you don't just make assumptions and attack without thinking. Brain even warned them. Oh, well. Survival of the slightly less dumb. At least Sebas was cool. There is only one undead king.
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Poil posted:Freaking morons. That is why you don't just make assumptions and attack without thinking. Brain even warned them. Oh, well. Survival of the slightly less dumb. They defeated Entoma a level 51 character. Had Demiurge not shown up they would have gotten clean away. I would not even call them dumb as until he showed up they had it in the bag and fully intended to retreat once Demiurge showed up.
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As far as confidence goes, all members of Blue Rose are the sort of heroes who would be celebrated in legend according to the level of the world they live in. Nazarick represents a level of threat that hasn't been seen in centuries.
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Paracelsus posted:As far as confidence goes, all members of Blue Rose are the sort of heroes who would be celebrated in legend according to the level of the world they live in. Yeah that they were able to beat Entoma a being that could probably destroy a city on her own with little chance of being stopped shows how good they are.
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Note that the wizardly person is stronger than entoma... meaning over level 50 herself... and loaded with anti-bug magic which probably helps.
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demiurge you heel i think its very impressive that a 3 man squad of the strongest adventurers were almost able to beat nazarick....'s maid
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EvilEye had a hard counter to Entoma and is notably stronger than the initial Blue Rose members she fought. If EvilEye hadn't shown up Entoma actually probably would've ended up winning. Entoma was pretty unlucky. Nerebal, Lupis Regina, and probably Solution would've utterly loving smoked the Blue Rose members if they had been on guard duty. Edit: Oh yeah, regarding Renner- one of her listed classes is "actress". Fabricated fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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Okay, that was a superb episode. It's a shame this is listed at just 13 episodes, it's been building up rather nicely.
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Fabricated posted:EvilEye had a hard counter to Entoma and is notably stronger than the initial Blue Rose members she fought. If EvilEye hadn't shown up Entoma actually probably would've ended up winning. Probably not Solution who does not seem as well built for that sort of fight. Evileye is very powerful and the fight may have gone a similar way. Evileye is straight up a higher level then most of the Pleiades, but the issue is that the Pleiades have much better gear. Edit:I originally thought that Evileye may have been able to beat Narberal and Lupusregina until I checked and realized the two of them were much higher leveled then the rest of the Pleiades. where the red fern gropes posted:demiurge you heel Entoma is supposed to be a fighter. The maid stuff is just a gimmick. None of the Pleiades actually know how to do actual maid stuff, as they are actually a combat force that is supposed to look like maids. Also the three of them straight up did beat Entoma not almost beat her. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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From checking the Pleiades I originally thought they would all be around the same level. But there are tons of differences. CZ Delta: Level 46 Automaton Gunner. Ranged Specialist. Yuri Alpha: Level 51 Dullahan Brawler. Close Combat Specialist. Only one of the Pleiades that has any ability to cook. Entoma Vasilissa Zeta: Level 51 Arachnoid Insect Master Shaman. Jack of All Trades using summoned insects and talisman support magic. Solution Epsilon: Level 57 Predator Slime Assassin. Racial Levels focused and hard to harm due to her slime nature with extra abilities focused on poison and stealth. Lupusregina Beta: Level 59 Werewolf Battle Cleric. Focused on healing and tanking. Has the highest stat total among the Pleiades. Narberal Gamma: Level 63 Doppelgänger War Wizard. Damage Magic Specialist specialized in lightning spells. (Also has the ability to wear good armor.) Overall they would make a decent party in a game.
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MonsterEnvy posted:From checking the Pleiades I originally thought they would all be around the same level. But there are tons of differences. well now im curious about the rest of nazarick
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where the red fern gropes posted:well now im curious about the rest of nazarick Guy has made stat sheets for most of them. Here are the roughly translated ones for the Pleiades along with Sebas and Demiurge for comparison.        
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MonsterEnvy posted:Guy has made stat sheets for most of them. thanks, didn't realise sebas/demi were both max level
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Nyaa posted:Who have Extreme Good alignment? uh, no one probably unless touch me shows up.
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Nyaa posted:Who have Extreme Good alignment? Sebas is the most good out of any of the Nazarick NPCs. Also in terms of level, all the floor guardians, Sebas, Albedo, and Pandora's Actor are all max level. Piell fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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Nyaa posted:Who have Extreme Good alignment? As for players it's not really clear- Momonga/Ainz has been waaaaaay less loving evil than a lot of the shittiest New World NPCs but he has -400 Karma (extreme evil) as his alignment. It's not clear if that's what he RP'd as, what his actual alignment is as per his actions (i.e. the author assigning it), or if it's his PVP Karma from Yggdrasil for pwning noobs. The other guild member's alignment goes along strongly with their respective NPCs that they created- with Ulbert (creator of Demiurge) being a complete over-the-top edgelord whose character was extremely evil. Edit: Also I think it's hilarious that the fight with the Six-Arms people was over in like 5 seconds in the animated version. In the LN basically paragraphs go into describing the abilities and some of of the history of each member. Like why that one dude's rapier is special, how the spatial slash dude fights, the magic/items the scimitar woman uses, how the undead guy is in-fact a Lich, etc etc. Then Sebas completely murks them all in an instant. Fabricated fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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