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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

i highly doubt that

:allears:

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Fake news!

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Technically correct.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

nm posted:

Technically correct.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
There's still another trial left guys, if the government decides to bother.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Hopefully the prosecution resists their own worst impulses, just releases everything to the defense, and resisted the temptation to overreach on the charges.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
this wild ride isn't over yet

https://mobile.twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/952629090858647552

naturally, the Dems want to investigate the Bundys and see if they have ties to domestic terrorism, while the GOP wants to investigate the BLM and figure out what the Obama administration did to make the government such a bad neighbor for those ranchers

hail satan:votegop:

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Federal prosecutors want to drop charges against the four remaining defendants in the Bundy Ranch standoff case, including two militia members from Arizona.

Attorneys for the Nevada U.S. Attorney's Office filed a motion late Wednesday asking the court to dismiss the remaining cases "in the interest of justice."

Dave and Mel Bundy, and Arizona residents Joseph O'Shaughnessy and Jason Woods, were scheduled to stand trial Feb. 26.

They were the last of 19 defendants originally charged with taking up arms against federal agents to prevent a roundup of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle from public lands in 2014.

The motion is the latest twist in a legal saga that has included three trials, two acquittals, a handful of plea deals, two mistrials and a judge's finding of prosecutorial misconduct.


fail

The_Book_Of_Harry
Apr 30, 2013

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

I, for one, am shocked that a DoJ lead by Jeff Sessions doesn't want to prosecute white wing extremists.

Gotta free up resources to go after minorities who don't know their place Black Identity Extremists, who we all know are the real threat to America.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Black sovereign citizens are a hell of a thing.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Relevant Tangent posted:

Black sovereign citizens are a hell of a thing.

Some judges are exasperated dealing with them since sovcit ideology began with tax protestors that believed the reconstruction amendments weren't legitimately passed.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Relevant Tangent posted:

Black sovereign citizens are a hell of a thing.

having dealt with them in person a bunch, the Moorish temple bunch are the worst of the worst

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Montanan in Bundy standoff sentenced


PORTLAND, Ore. — A military veteran described as the architect of the armed takeover of a national wildlife refuge was sentenced Tuesday to three years and a month in prison, the longest sentence for anyone convicted in the case.

At the federal courthouse in Portland, Ryan Payne of Anaconda apologized to those disrupted by his actions and to the American people in general. He also promised to sever ties with militia groups.

Payne, 34, helped seize the bird sanctuary in southeastern Oregon on Jan. 2, 2016, in a protest against federal control of Western lands and the imprisonment of two ranchers convicted of setting fires. He and standoff leader Ammon Bundy had come to Oregon two months earlier, warning Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward of civil unrest unless he told the federal government that ranchers Dwight and Steven Hammond would not report to prison.

Federal prosecutors said Payne had a leadership role during the ensuing occupation. In charge of defense, he coordinated armed guards and provided tactical training.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Geoff Barrow sought a sentence of more than three years, telling U.S. District Judge Anna Brown that Payne was the "most culpable" of the nearly 20 defendants receiving sentences in the case. Ammon Bundy and six co-defendants were acquitted by a jury in October 2016.

"The patriot community at large needs to understand that an offense of this nature...is a serious offense that warrants a serious sentence," Barrow said.

Payne was arrested Jan. 26, 2016, during a traffic stop while traveling with Arizona rancher Robert "LaVoy" Finicum and others to a community meeting away from the refuge. Payne complied with officers and left the vehicle. Finicum and the others drove away, and Finicum was fatally shot by authorities at a roadblock.

He pleaded guilty to conspiracy in July 2016, and later unsuccessfully tried to withdraw his plea. The sentencing was pushed back until after the outcome of his trial on charges stemming from a standoff with federal agents at a Nevada ranch owned by Ammon Bundy's father, Cliven.

The judge in the Nevada case dismissed charges against Payne and the Bundys last month, citing federal prosecutors' misconduct with evidence.

Payne's lawyer, Lisa Hay, argued for a sentence of two years, which would essentially be a punishment of time served because Payne spent about that much time in Portland and Las Vegas jails awaiting trial.

Psychologist Suzanne Best testified for the defense Tuesday that Payne suffered post-traumatic stress disorder from his two tours of combat duty in Iraq. She said Payne has had a mental shift while in custody, and has become more willing to undergo treatment.

Payne, she said, now wants to focus on his family instead of militia activities and other activism.

But Judge Brown expressed skepticism that Payne is ready to stop associating with co-defendants and militia groups. She was particularly bothered that Payne violated his release conditions by visiting the Bundy ranch in Nevada in December without permission. Photos of Payne grinning appeared on social media.

"It was as if you were celebrating the win but in a way that once again thumbed your nose, I'll say politely, against the rule of law," Brown said.



http://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2018/02/27/montanan-bundy-standoff-sentenced/379460002/

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006


Is this guy like the only person convicted of anything? That involved jail time?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




If it is any consolation a lot of them ended up spending 1-2 years in custody waiting for trial. Not being convicted in those circumstances isn't the same as getting off scot-free. I can't imagine any of the wives were thrilled about being left to take care of the kids alone and whatnot. That may have a chilling effect.

Or they will go hog wild and the feds will just shot them instead of pussyfooting around.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Zwabu posted:

Is this guy like the only person convicted of anything? That involved jail time?

that was the one who chickened out and pleaded guilty way back at the start rather than going to trial

and then tried to take it back later when the other occupiers started getting acquitted, but the judge wouldn't let him

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Duane Ehmer of Boardman, OR also got convicted and sentenced.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
https://www.opb.org/news/series/bur...2xuwtfh.twitter

I hope the guy is actually prosecuted/convicted/punished and not another Lon Horiuchi.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

TotalLossBrain posted:

https://www.opb.org/news/series/bur...2xuwtfh.twitter

I hope the guy is actually prosecuted/convicted/punished and not another Lon Horiuchi.

lol forever if he gets off because they can't definitively prove which FBI agent was lying about firing the shots

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Ryan Bundy is going to run for Governor of Nevada lol.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Main Paineframe posted:

that was the one who chickened out and pleaded guilty way back at the start rather than going to trial

and then tried to take it back later when the other occupiers started getting acquitted, but the judge wouldn't let him

i love the message it sends that hes getting hosed hard haha

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Ryan Bundy is going to run for Governor of Nevada lol.

lol

hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Ryan Bundy is going to run for Governor of Nevada lol.

I don't know anything about the Nevada political scene, but knowing how the rest of reality is going, I'm guessing he had a really good shot doesn't he?

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
I look forward to President Bundy's two terms.

CommanderApaul
Aug 30, 2003

It's amazing their hands can support such awesome.

hangedman1984 posted:

I don't know anything about the Nevada political scene, but knowing how the rest of reality is going, I'm guessing he had a really good shot doesn't he?

he's running as an independent, and might end up peeling off enough hard right wing voters to get a Democratic governor.

Kazak_Hstan
Apr 28, 2014

Grimey Drawer
My face is all misshapen from getting my wisdom teeth out, I feel Ryan's pain and support his candidacy at least until this swelling goes down.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

This whole twitter thread is worth a read but JJ MacNab has been following the American terrorists lone wolf disturbed individuals who attempted to bomb a mosque in Michigan and ooh boy what a doozy.

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/973681633349046274

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/973952134734630913

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/974302700321038337

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/974305673126318080

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/974306555440050176

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/TPM/status/974420883262656514

Snake?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Moonshine Snake

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Whitesnake

Cake Boss

Yellowsnake

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Punished Snake

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Pig Boss

Hogg Boss

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost
Hick Boss

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001
Boss Hogg
Roscoe P. Coltrain
Cleetus of Hazzard
Hecuvus the Manservant

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

LongDarkNight
Oct 25, 2010

It's like watching the collapse of Western civilization in fast forward.
Oven Wrangler
Doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth like most politicians.

hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

LongDarkNight posted:

Doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth like most politicians.

:iceburn:

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


LongDarkNight posted:

Doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth like most politicians.

god drat

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Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

LongDarkNight posted:

Doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth like most politicians.

He is however, completely two faced.

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