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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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BlackMK4 posted:BMW/Porsche brakes just have a ton of feel and modulation..... VWs are overboosted and grabby. yeah so is there any way to fix that? would SS lines help?
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Mar 14, 2018 18:44
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I don't think so, I'd say almost all of the extra feel people get out of SS lines is because they had old-rear end fluid in there; I see them more as a safety thing. As for your problem... I don't have a cure, I just got used to it  It's really, really, really hard to beat the driving feel of a drat E30-E46. Could experiment with different pads, but it comes down to master cylinder / caliper piston ratio.
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Mar 14, 2018 18:50
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I’m eyeing a 2017 GTI at a local dealer. Anything I should know about these cars before I jump in?
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Mar 16, 2018 15:16
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Mill Village posted:I’m eyeing a 2017 GTI at a local dealer. Anything I should know about these cars before I jump in? When you test drive it, put it in sports mode. Make sure it has the lighting package.
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Mar 16, 2018 15:24
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Get the manual and always have Sport mode.
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Mar 16, 2018 15:34
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Alternatively, get the DSG and never do sport mode.
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Mar 16, 2018 16:00
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KidDynamite posted:It’s planted as gently caress in the snow with proper tires. It’s actually hard to break loose even when trying. I did have some massive understeer on turn in at times and had to left foot trail-brake to get past it. But for regular driving in the snow it’s fuckjng perfect. I even did a launch in the snow and it hooked happily. You are all supposed to say it is terrible in the snow. I guess I should go give one a test drive
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Mar 16, 2018 17:24
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Kick-Puncher posted:You are all supposed to say it is terrible in the snow. I guess I should go give one a test drive It's fantastic in the snow. The more snow, the better, honestly. Unplowed roads and parking lots are a hoot. KidDynamite posted:Edit: Also I’ve had a 2018 for a month or so now and will report back on the LSD after auto-x this weekend. How much did you eat on the trade in?
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Mar 16, 2018 17:25
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KillHour posted:How much did you eat on the trade in? Didn’t trade the old one in. Got the new one for 41,600 out the door. Which was a great price under MSRP.
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Mar 16, 2018 18:20
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KidDynamite posted:Didn’t trade the old one in. Got the new one for 41,600 out the door. Which was a great price under MSRP. So you just have 2 RS's now? You hoping they'll appreciate?
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Mar 16, 2018 18:27
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I've been looking at a 2016 Veloster Turbo. It's the R-Spec, barely 22k miles on it, they're asking for around $15k. Anybody know why I shouldn't do this/have anything bad to say about the Veloster line? I've driven it twice now for test drives, and it seems like a fun car, with good size management.
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Mar 16, 2018 19:55
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Drive a fiesta and focus st first before you decide, both can be had in that range. I found the Veloster to drive like a normal ecomony car, I wouldn't really classify it as a hot hatch.
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Mar 16, 2018 21:10
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I have a 2016 r spec. The rear torsion beam is meh and stock suspension understeer pretty badly. A tune on the 2016 adds quite a bit of power with the exhaust changed. I gained roughly 60 ft lbs and 30 whp. The price seems ok but not great. You can probably get $1k off easy, new they sold just under $20k
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Mar 16, 2018 21:29
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Voltage posted:Drive a fiesta and focus st first before you decide, both can be had in that range. I found the Veloster to drive like a normal ecomony car, I wouldn't really classify it as a hot hatch. I still haven't found a reason to buy a veloster when you could get either ST. The focus is even a bit more practical, has a lot more space on the inside. (And four doors)
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Mar 16, 2018 21:31
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Fiesta st is too small and focus st was a lot more to insure and cost a lot more at the time. Also the focus st is like 500lbs more
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Mar 16, 2018 22:41
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I pick up my new Golf R on Monday morning! I'm excited!
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Mar 16, 2018 22:49
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Can anyone recommend a good detailing kit? I want to keep the whip looking nice. Despite never being in it, the dog has managed to get hair all up in it. Lord Douchebag posted:I've been looking at a 2016 Veloster Turbo. It's the R-Spec, barely 22k miles on it, they're asking for around $15k. Anybody know why I shouldn't do this/have anything bad to say about the Veloster line? I've driven it twice now for test drives, and it seems like a fun car, with good size management. It has three doors and that’s kind of silly.
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Mar 16, 2018 23:06
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PT6A posted:I pick up my new Golf R on Monday morning! I'm excited! Are you in Canada? They still haven't been released yet in the states, although it looks like that might change in a few weeks. Cars have been held at port in Jax, FL for a while now.
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Mar 17, 2018 00:10
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Radiohead71 posted:Are you in Canada? They still haven't been released yet in the states, although it looks like that might change in a few weeks. Cars have been held at port in Jax, FL for a while now. Yes I am.
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Mar 17, 2018 00:12
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Larrymer posted:Alternatively, get the DSG and never do sport mode. This is basically the right answer, although there are times where sport mode is sweet. The DSG is really good. It's a dual clutch badass that will actually hold a tune. Whereas if you try to tune with the manual, you're gonna be buying a new clutch. The Sport level of trim on the GTI is probably the best bang for the buck. It has the all of the performance-oriented upgrades including the lightning pack and the performance pack (which has the excellent slip diff).
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Mar 17, 2018 00:42
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PT6A: what color of Golf R did you order? you Canadians get quite the selection
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Mar 17, 2018 00:47
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BraveUlysses posted:PT6A: what color of Golf R did you order? you Canadians get quite the selection Indium Grey. I’m boring and also I didn’t want to pay another $3000 for one of the fancy colours.
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Mar 17, 2018 01:03
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Taima posted:This is basically the right answer, although there are times where sport mode is sweet. GTI Sport owner here. I don’t know what this guy said but shots fun. Slow car fast from what I’ve been told. What’s a differential and why do I want to limit its slip?
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Mar 17, 2018 02:59
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When you slip traction accelerating the open diff spins one tire. Limited slip keeps both tires under power. Helps on fwd a lot accelerating hard out of a turn.
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Mar 17, 2018 04:09
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Warbird posted:What’s a differential and why do I want to limit its slip?  omfg this is the most adorable thing
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Mar 17, 2018 11:31
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Warbird posted:GTI Sport owner here. I don’t know what this guy said but shots fun. Slow car fast from what I’ve been told. What’s a differential and why do I want to limit its slip? Son, you need Jesus. And to watch the entire catalog of Engineering Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsxq9WBllU
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Mar 17, 2018 16:38
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The Ferret King posted:Son, you need Jesus. And to watch the entire catalog of Engineering Explained: lol @ this guys hair here's a a couple videos about VWs VAQ differential https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqh2Tv5Puc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiUJLN5_le0
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Mar 17, 2018 17:40
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The Ferret King posted:Son, you need Jesus. This is our same bro that didn't know how to manually shift an automatic (DSG). Go easy on him. 
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Mar 17, 2018 21:37
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Larrymer posted:This is our same bro that didn't know how to manually shift an automatic (DSG). Go easy on him. I know, hence the need for a saviour.
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Mar 17, 2018 21:46
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Magic engineering shenanigans enable the wheels to rotate at different rates in turns because physics. The limited hoobistank or whatever does more shenanigans to let the wheels turn at different rates but still get twerk or power or speed force. Am I in the neighborhood here?
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Mar 18, 2018 04:04
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yes, something something torsens lock under throttle and are open off throttle, point and shoot
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Mar 18, 2018 04:23
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BlackMK4 posted:yes, something something torsens lock under throttle and are open off throttle, point and shoot Torsens don't lock 
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Mar 18, 2018 04:36
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Mar 18, 2018 04:51
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Warbird posted:Magic engineering shenanigans enable the wheels to rotate at different rates in turns because physics. The limited hoobistank or whatever does more shenanigans to let the wheels turn at different rates but still get twerk or power or speed force. Essentially. Consider each wheel in a turn. The wheel on the outside of the turn travels a longer distance than the wheel on the inside of the turn, but in the same amount of time, so it's actually going faster. If you had an axle directly attached to each wheel, this would cause a major fuckup since it would force the wheels to rotate at the same speed, so there's what's called a differential in between which allows the wheels to rotate at different speeds. Without getting into the engineering: an open differential -- the cheapest, least complicated sort -- basically allows the wheels to rotate completely independently of each other. In practice, this means that power is always sent to the wheel which is encountering the least resistance. If one wheel loses traction and begins to spin, more power will drive that wheel, and make the problem worse. With a limited slip differential, the difference in speeds between the two wheels is limited, so power will be transferred to the wheel which has more traction if one wheel loses traction.
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Mar 18, 2018 14:20
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PT6A posted:With a limited slip differential, the difference in speeds between the two wheels is limited, so power will be transferred to the wheel which has more traction if one wheel loses traction. All of the engineering magic goes into making a differential that will do this, without compromising its behavior in a turn, and do so reliably with relatively little maintenance.
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Mar 18, 2018 15:55
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IOwnCalculus posted:All of the engineering magic goes into making a differential that will do this, without compromising its behavior in a turn, and do so reliably with relatively little maintenance. A Wizard Did It
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Mar 18, 2018 16:20
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That’s all fine and good. Why don’t all/most cars have this? Is it a matter of horsepower that necessitates whether or not a vehicle needs one?
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Mar 18, 2018 17:24
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Cost, mostly. They're much more complex than a few spider gears in an open differential. A large number of modern cars can fake it anyway. Now that ABS can brake each wheel individually, it just takes some extra programming to use the computer and brakes to slow down a wheel on an open differential that is trying to lose traction. The big downside here is that in prolonged and frequent use, brake wear goes up dramatically. And yes, there's a benefit aspect to it too. My old NB Miata had an open differential, but it had so little power and so much mechanical grip that it was still very difficult to light up one tire in a street situation. My C10, with loads of power and no weight over the stiffly spring rear, will smoke one tire anytime I want it to (and sometimes when I don't). IOwnCalculus fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 18, 2018 |
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Mar 18, 2018 17:29
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Warbird posted:That’s all fine and good. Why don’t all/most cars have this? Is it a matter of horsepower that necessitates whether or not a vehicle needs one? Part of it is cost, and most people won't push a car hard enough to see the benefits, and most low to medium power cars won't see much benefit.
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Mar 18, 2018 17:49
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Never, ever track a white car with an aggressive pad, then skip washing it for 5 months straight. Learn from my mistakes. I’ve been clay barring rust of the sides of my fiST for 2 hours now. Almost done with one side.
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