MononcQc posted:

countries without net neutrality may bundle unlimited facebook in terms of bandwidth but charge you up the rear end for any site or content not in their plan fwiw so it's not entirely ridiculous

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We have collections of free basic books. They’re called libraries. They don’t contain every book, but they still provide a world of good.

We have free basic healthcare. Public hospitals don’t offer every treatment, but they still save lives.

Over the last year Facebook has worked with mobile operators, app developers and civil society to overcome these barriers in India and more than 30 other countries. We launched Free Basics, a set of basic internet services for things like education, healthcare, jobs and communication that people can use without paying for data.

Who could possibly be against this?

Surprisingly, over the last year there’s been a big debate about this in India.

A few months ago I learned about a farmer in Maharashtra called Ganesh.

Last year Ganesh started using Free Basics. He found weather information to prepare for monsoon season. He looked up commodity prices to get better deals. Now Ganesh is investing in new crops and livestock.

Critics of free basic internet services should remember that everything we’re doing is about serving people like Ganesh. This isn’t about Facebook’s commercial interests – there aren’t even any ads in the version of Facebook in Free Basics. If people lose access to free basic services they will simply lose access to the opportunities offered by the internet today.

Right now the TRAI is inviting the public to help decide whether free basic internet services should be offered in India.

What reason is there for denying people free access to vital services for communication, education, healthcare, employment, farming and women’s rights?

How does Ganesh being able to better tend his crops hurt the internet?

We’ve heard legitimate concerns in the past, and we’ve quickly addressed those. We’re open to other approaches and encourage innovation. But today this program is creating huge benefits for people and the entire internet ecosystem. There’s no valid basis for denying people the choice to use Free Basics, and that’s what thousands of people across India have chosen to tell TRAI over the last few weeks.

Choose facts over false claims. Everyone deserves access to the internet. Free basic internet services can help achieve this. Free Basics should stay to help achieve digital equality for India.

cool startup feel posted:

https://twitter.com/CamAnalytica/status/975081781702492160

its cool guys they admit that their product doesnt work no harm no foul

FrozenVent posted:

internet dot org in India was basically “marky mark tries his hand at colonialism”, sucks for him that he basically tried the hardest map

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

the vast majority of FB communication i see is on the level of forum posts like in the cjs thread. a lot of it is trivial, even some of the more meaningful items are really condensed (like "just started taking testosterone!") or it's (allegedly) interesting links/photos/videos. the cool thing is you can with as much or as little effort as you want and it doesn't feel like you're garbaging up someone's inbox.

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

if that's not the user experience you get, if you otherwise don't get any value or satisfaction out of using it, if you have no room in your life for casual acquaintances you would very rarely engage with outside the internet, then yeah absolutely don't use it. but don't be so obtuse as to pretend it's the same as email correspondence or that people would convey the same information over email.

fishmech posted:

net neutrality does not prevent anyone from doing this, fyi.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

restraining undertakings

Sagebrush posted:

OwO

cinci zoo sniper posted:

arent there some facebook internet satellites in africa or something

Sagebrush posted:

i saw it for the first time last week when someone posted the "OwO we had a fucky wucky ewwor" thing and everyone seemed pretty disgusted by it for some reason so i decided to use it

it's a furry thing huh? i guess i can see it's like teeth or something

MononcQc posted:

It does in Canada at least.

don't @ me

pseudorandom name posted:

oh, is it a furry thing?

I assumed it was some kind "pweese daddy give all your cummies" thing

fishmech posted:

That isn't net neutrality

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality posted:

Net neutrality is the principle that governments should mandate Internet service providers to treat all data on the Internet the same, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of communication.

ruling posted:

The Commission finds that Quebecor Media Inc., Videotron Ltd., and Videotron G.P. (collectively, Videotron) are acting in violation of subsection 27(2) of the Telecommunications Act by exempting the Unlimited Music program from data charges. Subsection 27(2) prohibits Canadian carriers from giving an undue or unreasonable preference to themselves or any other person, or subjecting any person to an undue or unreasonable disadvantage. Videotron is giving an undue preference to subscribers who access the Unlimited Music program and to the providers whose services are included in that program, and is subjecting providers and consumers of other content and services to a corresponding undue disadvantage.

MononcQc posted:

It quite literally is net neutrality.

fishmech posted:

prisoner of waffles posted:

*takes off hat labelled "GOALPOST MOVERS"*
*wipes sweat from brow*
it's rough, but it's a living

fishmech posted:

prisoner of waffles posted:

except in Canada as documented above, you tiresome bithc

wow, you picked a largely irrelevant point to be technically correct about A*M*A---zing

Sagebrush posted:

Did you notice the post a few before yours where I told him he was correct and he still had to post again to reaffirm it

bob dobbs is dead posted:

fishmeched again

i got fishmeched in a gws thread lol

bob dobbs is dead posted:

apparently peeps in the anti food porn thread have declared me the pyf fishmech
lol