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The prices in WA are higher than the state run stores but now you can get liquor in a ton of places at later hours. It was annoying before having to make sure you scheduled your trip so you didn’t end up missing the operational hours of the store near you.
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I'm conflicted about regulations on hours of service. On one hand, at any given time I have enough various kinds of booze in my apartment to kill myself via alcohol poisoning ten times over, so I'd only need to go to a liquor store to get something specific that I happen to be lacking, and I might want to pick up beer or wine while doing an early morning grocery shopping. On the other hand, there are people that queue at the liquor store door every day at 10AM because they need booze, and they lack the ability to possess any amount of booze without consuming it, so the eight hours they are legally unable to buy booze is one of the only things stopping them from simply drinking constantly. Although you could also make the point that, by the time you're queueing for liquor at 10AM on a regular basis, you probably have a problem that simple regulations aren't ever going to fix.
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Mar 16, 2018 14:26
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PT6A posted:This can happen whether the government has a monopoly on retail sale of alcohol or not, and besides, the biggest advantage I've seen from private liquor stores isn't making it easier or cheaper to get hosed up, it's high-end stores that focus on offering a wide selection of stuff that would be expensive under any tax regime. Yeah I'm having a hard time imagining that anywhere with state-run places is going to have near the selection and variety you see at like a Spec's or Bevmo or the like.
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Mar 16, 2018 14:30
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ReidRansom posted:Yeah I'm having a hard time imagining that anywhere with state-run places is going to have near the selection and variety you see at like a Spec's or Bevmo or the like. Admittedly, some of them are very good for certain things, largely because they have huge buying power, but in general there are a few "blind spots" and there's nothing you can do about them, since it's government controlled.
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Mar 16, 2018 14:34
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Virginia has a huge selection of whiskeys but it's a pain in the rear end to get a lot of mixers. For many liqueurs, your choices are either one name brand, or bottom shelf DeKuyper and the like. Sometimes the bottom shelf option is the only option. Once a year I find a reason to stop in Delaware en route to visiting my in-laws, so that I can get decent creme de cassis, creme de menthe, and the like. And without paying sales tax.
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Mar 16, 2018 14:56
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Halloween Jack posted:Virginia has a huge selection of whiskeys but it's a pain in the rear end to get a lot of mixers. For many liqueurs, your choices are either one name brand, or bottom shelf DeKuyper and the like. Sometimes the bottom shelf option is the only option. Once a year I find a reason to stop in Delaware en route to visiting my in-laws, so that I can get decent creme de cassis, creme de menthe, and the like. And without paying sales tax. Maryland and DC both have independent liquor stores, surely they're a little closer to home?
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Mar 16, 2018 19:00
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IME it's actually easier to stop in Delaware en route to the Philadelphia area than to try to get in and out of DC. And I can buy everything I want in one big box store, mostly for better prices than in VA, even before sales tax.
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Mar 16, 2018 19:22
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Halloween Jack posted:IME it's actually easier to stop in Delaware en route to the Philadelphia area than to try to get in and out of DC. And I can buy everything I want in one big box store, mostly for better prices than in VA, even before sales tax. Ah, makes sense. gently caress DC traffic/parking. Not sure how widely distributed they are, but since you're localish and into whiskey, my friend's distillery is about to launch their debut round of rye, the first produced in the city in fifty years, and I can't wait to try it. They also do gin, apple brandy and amaro, all of which are loving delicious. /shameless plug
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Mar 16, 2018 20:55
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Our liquor stores close at 10 pm here. Somehow society hasn't collapsed. Americans are weak.
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Mar 16, 2018 21:53
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Toys 'R Us as a symbol of the failure of private equity rather than the failure of retail generally: https://twitter.com/ObsoleteDogma/status/974721070405160963
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Mar 16, 2018 22:47
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Stretch Marx posted:Our liquor stores close at 10 pm here. Somehow society hasn't collapsed. Americans are weak. Back when Washington state ran them, a lot of stores closed at like 7 or 8 and it was annoying to have to schedule time to go to a liquor store to get booze before a party. It’s all moot and anecdotal at this point. I’m over 30 and I don’t bring a fifth of vodka to a party anymore.
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Mar 16, 2018 22:49
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HEY NONG MAN posted:It’s all moot and anecdotal at this point. I’m over 30 and I don’t bring a fifth of vodka to a party anymore. And this is why nobody invites you anymore. (But yeah, early closures suck, especially if you don't get home from work until 6-7PM in the first place.)
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Badger of Basra posted:Toys 'R Us as a symbol of the failure of private equity rather than the failure of retail generally: Say hello to your 2020 Democratic nominee https://www.baincapital.com/people/deval-patrick
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Mar 16, 2018 23:31
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Halloween Jack posted:Virginia has a huge selection of whiskeys but it's a pain in the rear end to get a lot of mixers. For many liqueurs, your choices are either one name brand, or bottom shelf DeKuyper and the like. Sometimes the bottom shelf option is the only option. Once a year I find a reason to stop in Delaware en route to visiting my in-laws, so that I can get decent creme de cassis, creme de menthe, and the like. And without paying sales tax. Almost every VA liquor store near me is next to a grocery store, or in the same strip mall. So park, get booze, put in car get mixers and beer/wine then walk next door and get a burrito.
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And not a goddamned one of them sells Lazzaroni amaretto.
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Speaking of utterly expected BS out of the Toys R Us failure:quote:BERGEN COUNTY, N.J. — The judge overseeing the Toys R Us bankruptcy case ruled Tuesday that the insolvent retailer can pay its 17 top executives $14 million in incentive bonuses. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2017/12/05/bankruptcy-judge-approves-14-m-toys-r-us-executive-bonus-payout/925447001/
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Halloween Jack posted:IME it's actually easier to stop in Delaware en route to the Philadelphia area than to try to get in and out of DC. And I can buy everything I want in one big box store, mostly for better prices than in VA, even before sales tax. I know which Total Wine you're going to, it's the one located 200 feet south of the PA border with the parking lot filled entirely with cars that have Pennsylvania license plates.
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Mar 17, 2018 06:59
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icantfindaname posted:Say hello to your 2020 Democratic nominee Of course! It all makes sense now.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I know which Total Wine you're going to, it's the one located 200 feet south of the PA border with the parking lot filled entirely with cars that have Pennsylvania license plates. Which is the same one I go to. And everyone else in SE PA. I'll have to start looking for neckbeards.
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Liquid Communism posted:Speaking of utterly expected BS out of the Toys R Us failure: There should be a law that limits all bonuses to an intentionally insultingly low amount of like $2.50 if the company is in bankruptcy proceedings.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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suck my woke dick posted:There should be a law that limits all bonuses to an intentionally insultingly low amount of like $2.50 if the company is in bankruptcy proceedings. Whoa that sounds like a law that wouldn't benefit the rich. We don't take kindly to socialists around these here parts.
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suck my woke dick posted:There should be a law that limits all bonuses to an intentionally insultingly low amount of like $2.50 if the company is in bankruptcy proceedings. Actually they should pay the effected employees salaries for a year.
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Nonsense posted:Actually they should pay the effected employees salaries for a year. Weird way to write "pay the effected employees all the funds and leave creditors and shareholders with bupkus".
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Mar 17, 2018 19:55
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Horseshoe theory posted:Weird way to write "pay the effected employees all the funds and leave creditors and shareholders with bupkus". They should do that too
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Mar 17, 2018 19:59
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More importantly, leverged buyouts should be made illegal. Retroactively if possible, making the capital management firms responsible liable for all debt so incurred. Their directors personally so.
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Motronic posted:Which is the same one I go to. And everyone else in SE PA. I keep expecting the PLCB to send a few mortar rounds over the border onto the place, it's got to keep an ungodly amount of dollars from going to the state just on its own.
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Liquid Communism posted:More importantly, leverged buyouts should be made illegal. Retroactively if possible, making the capital management firms responsible liable for all debt so incurred. I have yet to see a reason they should ever happen cause they only seem to benefit the buyer and never the business, but maybe I misunderstand what their purpose is?
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Mar 19, 2018 05:33
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mandatory lesbian posted:I have yet to see a reason they should ever happen cause they only seem to benefit the buyer and never the business, but maybe I misunderstand what their purpose is? Nah, that's pretty much it.
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mandatory lesbian posted:I have yet to see a reason they should ever happen cause they only seem to benefit the buyer and never the business, but maybe I misunderstand what their purpose is? In theory they're to be used to finance something of worth between two merging companies, where one of them can provide the working capital through the loans and the other one provides the expertise to follow through on it. In practice I don't believe it's ever happened.
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There’s been a few leveraged buyouts that have worked out ok. Nabisco was the largest leveraged buyout in history and they’re still around. Safeway too. They’re good if you need a cash infusion to take a company public or to restructure debt to take a company private again. Dell went through a leveraged buyout to go private a few years ago and they’re in much better shape than they were before.
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FCKGW posted:There’s been a few leveraged buyouts that have worked out ok. Nabisco was the largest leveraged buyout in history and they’re still around. Safeway too. They’re good if you need a cash infusion to take a company public or to restructure debt to take a company private again. Dell went through a leveraged buyout to go private a few years ago and they’re in much better shape than they were before. What’s ironic about that is having a large cash balance on hand leaves a company vulnerable to leveraged buyouts as they can use the cash as collateral for the loan. Apparently that’s why companies are doing a lot of stock buybacks now - dividends get taxed but they don’t want to just sit on large piles of cash.
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FCKGW posted:There’s been a few leveraged buyouts that have worked out ok. Nabisco was the largest leveraged buyout in history and they’re still around. Safeway too. They’re good if you need a cash infusion to take a company public or to restructure debt to take a company private again. Dell went through a leveraged buyout to go private a few years ago and they’re in much better shape than they were before. They're almost always predatory as gently caress. They also tend to be targeted at companies that are struggling somehow and are desperate to save themselves.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:They're almost always predatory as gently caress. They also tend to be targeted at companies that are struggling somehow and are desperate to save themselves. The whole point of LBOs is that the PE firm is able to provide better management, so it doesn't make sense to buy a company that is going well (and we can infer, has good management). mandatory lesbian posted:I have yet to see a reason they should ever happen cause they only seem to benefit the buyer and never the business, but maybe I misunderstand what their purpose is? What do you suggest? Ban the buying of companies? LBOs are fine in theory, but they require a low interest rate environment, and the PE company to make the right changes to the company. The trend nowadays is towards expectations of higher inflation, and therefore higher interest rates, so alot of these deals are going to skewered on that factor alone.
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Mar 19, 2018 08:09
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Safeway’s service has gone absolutely to poo poo since Cerberus bought them.
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JnnyThndrs posted:Safeway’s service has gone absolutely to poo poo since Cerberus bought them.
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Tehdas posted:The whole point of LBOs is that the PE firm is able to provide better management, so it doesn't make sense to buy a company that is going well (and we can infer, has good management). Or you could, I dunno, force companies to bring their own collateral instead of using collateral they don’t even own yet?
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Tehdas posted:The whole point of LBOs is that the PE firm is able to provide better management oh my sweet summer child
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https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/975711014896504835?s=19 As expected. Claire's Stores has filed for bankruptcy.
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fishmech posted:Remember how all the idiots in Washington State voted to abolish their state liquor monopoly in 2012 and the prices are now higher by quite a bit more than inflation alone? Yeah. The only good outcome from that is that it got the people who want to deregulate in Oregon to shut the gently caress up since they are so plainly wrong. State run liquor distro is great for the state and drinkers both. Lots of cash in state coffers, lower prices, and there's actually interesting booze on the shelves and we have a vibrant craft distillery scene thanks to preferential stocking and display of smaller shops' stuff. super nailgun fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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super nailgun posted:Yeah. The only good outcome from that is that it got the people who want to deregulate in Oregon to shut the gently caress up since they are so plainly wrong. State run liquor distro is great for the state and drinkers both. Lots of cash in state coffers, lower prices, and there's actually interesting booze on the shelves and we have a vibrant craft distillery scene thanks to preferential stocking and display of smaller shops' stuff. As much as I loved the state liquor stores, I'm afraid most of the people who voted for deregulation don't care about any of that poo poo because now they can buy giant bottles of booze at Costco. And somehow the invisible hand of the market didn't magically make booze any cheaper with all the healthy competition that was brought in. 
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