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Jimbot posted:So a friend of mine got accepted to the Lambda School for a part time computer science course. Maybe I should do that.
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I have a very general question, more of a discussion topic than a specific question. In short, I'm looking for a challenge that will help me grow my career. My day job has gotten to be quite routine - client asks for changes, I implement changes, and collect my paycheck. I want to drive towards getting a remote job so I need a way to market myself by programming something available to the public. I've read all the cliche advice "solve a problem you have, something you care about" etc. One of the pain points in my day job is a dependency on a very not-fun email server: https://www.mailenable.com/. I hate this thing, we only use a miniscule fraction of it's features, and since we're a .NET shop there aren't really any other email servers available. So I was thinking about trying to implement a mail server that speaks IMAP/POP3/SMTP. But uuuhhhh that seems really loving hard. How the gently caress do you even start something like that. Or alternatively what other things could I do in .NET land for a fresh challenge?
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Mar 17, 2018 14:50
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Careful Drums posted:I have a very general question, more of a discussion topic than a specific question. Very simple place to start; read the specifications. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501.html https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1939.txt https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321
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Mar 17, 2018 16:04
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Doctor Malaver posted:I'm looking for a JS library or a small web app (no flash) for making exercises with flow diagrams. We ask the user to construct a diagram based on something they learned previously and they move around shapes and draw arrows and write stuff into labels, and we check whether they got it right. Anyone knows of something like that? I think this might be a few libraries that provide the functionality needed. One library for the shapes, one for drawing, and probably another providing drag n drop.
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Mar 17, 2018 16:39
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leper khan posted:Very simple place to start; read the specifications. Yeah, this is good advice. I did something similar years ago where I implemented an HTTP server in python from scratch. At first, it seemed like an insurmountable mountain of difficulty, but then I read the specs and realized its just a matter of sending and receiving text formatted according to the HTTP specs over sockets. Once I grasped that, it was then easy-ish to break the problem down into discrete achievable goals.
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Mar 17, 2018 17:15
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Thermopyle posted:Yeah, this is good advice. Thanks for replying, because I've just spent and hour thinking "gently caress now I gotta actually do this and if I don't everyone will know I'm a punk on the CoC forums". How much time did you spend on your HTTP server? Did you publish it anywhere?
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Mar 17, 2018 17:24
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Careful Drums posted:Thanks for replying, because I've just spent and hour thinking "gently caress now I gotta actually do this and if I don't everyone will know I'm a punk on the CoC forums". How much time did you spend on your HTTP server? Did you publish it anywhere? Unfortunately, most of my code that I wrote for myself from before github was around is long gone. This was about 15 years ago! I think I wrote it one summer and it was my main project during that time...but I wasn't coding full-time either. Not very helpful, I know, but I can't remember for sure.
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Mar 17, 2018 17:33
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Here is a SOCKS proxy that i wrote back in 1999 or 2000 or so that i found on my harddrive (yea, my /home folder is that old). As you can see, nothing much to it, just passing bytes around and interpreting them according to the spec.
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Mar 17, 2018 19:20
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Volguus posted:Here is a SOCKS proxy that i wrote back in 1999 or 2000 or so that i found on my harddrive (yea, my /home folder is that old). As you can see, nothing much to it, just passing bytes around and interpreting them according to the spec. That's super cool. Its funny to me how your comments describe the protocol and it looks very intimidating (at least to me) but then the implementation below is pretty short. Its a great starting point. Thanks for sharing!
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Mar 17, 2018 20:20
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More specifically, I am writing my own mail server right now. It’s in Haskell, but I can vouch to the simplicity of the protocols involved. IMAP is the hardest but still not horrid.
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Mar 18, 2018 20:47
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I once had the idea to look into doing a 3270 client with a nicer user interface. Once I found the 1000+ page book describing the protocol, I elected not to write a 3270 client.
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Mar 18, 2018 21:56
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Is there a thread for React/React Native I'm not seeing?
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Mar 19, 2018 09:07
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uncle blog posted:Is there a thread for React/React Native I'm not seeing? Coding Horrors? (try the Modern front-end development thread)
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Mar 19, 2018 13:29
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So I work for a two person startup, where I am the technical / design / everything person, with a contracted dev for some python / Django stuff. We are starting to sell access to our web app to colleges, and they all want us to fill out a Vendor Questionnaire with 970,721,319 questions about BSIMM, OWASP, SOC 2 and many other fine acronyms I have never heard of, as well as more general questions like so:quote:Are data input and output integrity routines (i.e., reconciliation and edit checks) implemented for application interfaces and databases to prevent manual or systematic processing errors or corruption of data? and quote:Are all identified security, contractual, and regulatory requirements for customer access contractually addressed and remediated prior to granting customers access to data, assets, and information systems? I never learned this in art school, so does anyone have a "filling out security questionnaires for stupid people" guide they know of? We'd love to pay someone to do it, but we don't have much money until we sign some customers which we can't do until we fill these things out. Any other advice on these like "nobody looks at them, so just don't lie" or anything? EDIT Also, does anyone have experience with tools like Codacity? ( https://www.codacy.com/ ) are they worth using (these question forms always ask about automated security testing) or are they more trouble than they are worth... Lumpy fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 19, 2018 |
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Mar 19, 2018 16:00
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gmq posted:Coding Horrors? uncle blog posted:Is there a thread for React/React Native I'm not seeing? Modern front-end development thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3571035
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Mar 19, 2018 16:01
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Lumpy posted:So I work for a two person startup, where I am the technical / design / everything person, with a contracted dev for some python / Django stuff. We are starting to sell access to our web app to colleges, and they all want us to fill out a Vendor Questionnaire with 970,721,319 questions about BSIMM, OWASP, SOC 2 and many other fine acronyms I have never heard of, as well as more general questions like so: Anything you write on these will be used against you if anything goes wrong (data breach, downtime, etc.) so don't write anything you can't defend. Your first quote I read as: "If I reverse-engineered any client code, could I get access to do things I shouldn't, or get to write data that shouldn't pass validation?" I.e. are data sent to the system validated server-side and will be rejected if invalid. The second seems to be: "Do you confirm the identity and credentials of everyone granted access to the system?" Could anyone get access without having been granted it by an administrator? This is the kind of document where you'd be best off getting a lawyer's assistance, especially your first time with a major client.
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Mar 19, 2018 16:52
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Jimbot posted:So a friend of mine got accepted to the Lambda School for a part time computer science course. He's been wanting to get into programming for a long time (for a better paying job) but keeps hitting a wall when he tries to self-teach himself. Does anyone have any experience with this place or know someone who has? Is it legit? He got accepted and is enthusiastic but doesn't want to get involved with something won't help him learn the material or might end up being a scam or something. CourseReports was one of the primary places I checked before signing up for my boot camp and LambdaSchool seems to have good ratings. Always important when checking reviews to make sure they are made by real people. Course Reports make that easy by allowing for a LinkedIn profile to be connected with reviews. If your friends wants some extra security, he could find some profiles connected to reviews, reach out to those people, and ask them questions. Usually most people are more than happy to help!
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Mar 19, 2018 18:00
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Hey thread. Don't know if here is the best place to ask, but it is pretty "general" in a sense, so... I have ADHD, which makes programming both really interesting and baffling sometimes. Immediate feedback provides the best way for people with attention disorders to learn (if the program doesn't work, you know it right away, so you get to keep engaged for instance) BUT makes elegant, better solutions kinda obfuscated and worse, it is difficult for me to come with nice ideas when time is a problem. For instance, I did pretty bad in a test yesterday, but the solutions started to come afterwards and (only then) I figured quickly what I did wrong. Are there any tips to avoid bullrushing or blanking out with those, or is it just a matter of experience and keeping at it? Many thanks in advance 
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Mar 20, 2018 15:10
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dead comedy forums posted:Hey thread. Don't know if here is the best place to ask, but it is pretty "general" in a sense, so... Use a statically typed language; they’ll tell you your most egregious errors. Do you’re first implementation of at least your data model on paper. [Repeat until you’re happy with it; number of iterations will go down as you gain experience.]
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Mar 20, 2018 15:19
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Yeah I don't have any general advice or anything, but for me pen and paper really works. Kinda sketch out the general ideas and bullet points, break down and refine those and work out how they connect together (so you start to see the shape of things and the cases they need to handle). Try and think about what the edge cases are and if you need to do anything special, or if you can generalise part of it into a neat set of steps If I just sit down at the computer I immediately want to start coding, so for me I don't have as much time to think about it, and the stuff I write starts to influence the end product (because you're actually laying down the foundations without a big picture plan). If you're a more iterative kind of person then that might be better for you. I can do a similar thing to the pen and paper approach in a comment block, but paper just works better for me I don't know how difficult ADHD makes it, but doing bullet points and then expanding each one makes it easier to focus, because you're working on simple pieces and you have a clear measure of progress. Writing out some examples might help too, like if you're working on a list of items, so you can visualise it and work through it instead of trying to keep an abstract concept in your head. If you're under time pressure, being able to break things down methodically and set yourself actual tasks helps you to just get on with it. But really you need to find a method that just works for you. Experience definitely helps too though, it just makes you sharper, ready to see simpler solutions (including remembering solutions you've encountered before) and to know when it's better to just make something that works, instead of the ideal solution you won't reach in time
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Mar 20, 2018 17:22
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Experience helps a lot, to be frank. Programming is not a native concept for pretty much anybody's brain, so the first course or two you take are almost invariably the hardest as you have to learn everything from scratch. I'd recommend that you sketch out a high-level pseudocode implementation of your program, then "fill in the gaps" with real code. Like, if you had to write a calculator program that interprets text like "2 + 2" or "(4 * 3) / 6", the high-level code would be something like: code:Once you have pseudocode that you're happy with, you can start converting it into real code. sometimes you'll need to break down some of the pseudoced into more pseudocode. The "find highest-priority computation" bit there looks pretty complicated, for example.
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Mar 20, 2018 17:27
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The "find highest-priority computation" bit there looks pretty complicated, for example. See you at the other end of the rabbit hole! 
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Mar 20, 2018 17:49
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Programming is not a native concept for pretty much anybody's brain Unrelated and just my own personal experience/opinion here, but having come from a strong music/music production background before jumping into programming, I found there to be a ton of crossover in terms of the actual work-flow/process and the abstraction abilities needed. Maybe I'm just weird, but I found it to be almost a seamless transition and there was something about picking up programming that felt strangely familiar when I first started. Iterating over a function until you have it clean and just right is not too different in feel from spending hours cleaning up a snare drum with an EQ, for example. Anyways, not to derail, but also to help point out to any newbies that I found it surprising how some previous seemingly-unrelated skills bled into programming. But YMMV. reversefungi fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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Mar 20, 2018 18:46
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The Dark Wind posted:Unrelated and just my own personal experience/opinion here, but having come from a strong music/music production background before jumping into programming, I found there to be a ton of crossover in terms of the actual work-flow/process and the abstraction abilities needed. Maybe I'm just weird, but I found it to be almost a seamless transition and there was something about picking up programming that felt strangely familiar when I first started. Iterating over a function until you have it clean and just right is not too different in feel from spending hours cleaning up a snare drum with an EQ, for example. I've noticed the same thing - the faculties for music seem to be closely related to programming. Chad Fowler wrote about it a bit in "The Passionate Programmer" (idk what y'alls opinion of that book is but it helped me a lot when I was starting off out of college).
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Mar 20, 2018 21:53
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Ah, many thanks again I am trying to make a strong habit out of having pen and paper to sketch things up - that definitely helps - and I will try to come up with pseudocode as often as I can remember to do so. I mentioned ADHD mostly because it makes abstraction harder (not impossible though), which in turn makes harder to figure out more intelligent problem-solving approaches. Though, then again, makes it even more important to put those on paper and work step-by-step even if it is just to grok it out at first.
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Mar 21, 2018 02:03
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Mr Shiny Pants posted:Why not map the drive over WebDav and use regular filecopy? Be sure to strip any characters not allowed on a webserver otherwise sharepoint will throw a fit. The Fool posted:After briefly looking through the other commands available in the module you're using, it doesn't look like it'll be easy. The issue is the Import-Document specifically only takes a document library as an argument there doesn't appear to be a way built in to the cmdlet. Sorry for the delayed response! Thank you both for the helpful answers; we ended up using PowerShell to create a "Migration" subfolder in everyone's source folders. Files were then transferred into the Migration folder prior to transfer to OneDrive.
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Mar 23, 2018 14:52
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Hey, I’m wrapping up my BBA and I’m looking to increase my computer touching prowess to get an edge over all the other dumbasses like me gunning for entry level finance jobs. Udemy was recommended to me by a friend of a friend, is it worth dropping the ~tenbux ea for a few courses?
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Mar 25, 2018 17:42
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junan_paalla posted:Hey, I’m wrapping up my BBA and I’m looking to increase my computer touching prowess to get an edge over all the other dumbasses like me gunning for entry level finance jobs. Udemy was recommended to me by a friend of a friend, is it worth dropping the ~tenbux ea for a few courses? Yes. I’ve used Udemy and liked it. What kind of computer knowhow do you need for finance?
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Mar 25, 2018 18:23
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lifg posted:Yes. I’ve used Udemy and liked it. I don't really know, but I figured programming and webdev basics can't hurt. I should probably attend some of the alumni/student mingles held by the student associations and unions and chat up some people who really know about it.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:26
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There's some value in knowing enough Python to automate things that you'd have to do mostly manually in Excel. You'll still have to do a lot in Excel, though.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:29
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ultrafilter posted:There's some value in knowing enough Python to automate things that you'd have to do mostly manually in Excel. You'll still have to do a lot in Excel, though. Isn't Excel going to actually integrate Python in the next version or something?
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Mar 25, 2018 18:32
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I don't know. There's already some R integration, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:47
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junan_paalla posted:Hey, I’m wrapping up my BBA and I’m looking to increase my computer touching prowess to get an edge over all the other dumbasses like me gunning for entry level finance jobs. Udemy was recommended to me by a friend of a friend, is it worth dropping the ~tenbux ea for a few courses? I'd also recommend Automate the Boring Stuff with Python: Practical Programming for Total Beginners. It was the first book I used when I got into programming and besides being an introductory book, it talks about how to automate Excel stuff and other super useful tasks.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:52
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Now that I think about it, doesn’t the entire finance sector run on Excel? Mastering Excel will likely engender tremendous love from your future coworkers.
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Mar 25, 2018 18:54
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lifg posted:Now that I think about it, doesn’t the entire finance sector run on Excel? Mastering Excel will likely engender tremendous love from your future coworkers. That's what I've heard and that's what our IT courses were mainly about. Thanks for helping guys!
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Mar 25, 2018 20:25
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nielsm posted:Isn't Excel going to actually integrate Python in the next version or something? https://excel.uservoice.com/forums/304921-excel-for-windows-desktop-application/suggestions/10549005-python-as-an-excel-scripting-language This was the last I’ve heard on it.
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Mar 25, 2018 20:41
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I don't think it would make that much sense. They really need to some sort of coherent strategy for what they're going to do about extensibility for Office going forward. I'm not sure what sort of uptake the javascript api has been seeing.
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Mar 25, 2018 20:47
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mystes posted:I don't think it would make that much sense. They really need to some sort of coherent strategy for what they're going to do about extensibility for Office going forward. I'm not sure what sort of uptake the javascript api has been seeing. I didn't know about the javascript API, thanks! Between the C# EPPlus library and a javascript api - that should cover a lot of my excel coding stuff.
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Mar 26, 2018 02:38
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why'd the emacs thread get locked? for shame. just wanted to post this sick link https://emacs.zeef.com/ehartc with plenty of packages I never heard of. Anyone use parinfer?
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mike12345 posted:why'd the emacs thread get locked? for shame. just wanted to post this sick link https://emacs.zeef.com/ehartc with plenty of packages I never heard of. Anyone use parinfer?
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