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Kurtofan posted:whats the deal with the fishermen Fisherman (like farmers) thought they were a cornerstone of the Tory constituency and would never have their views ignored Narrator: Their views were ignored
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Cerv posted:same reason he's against proportional representation lol what a dumb take.
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MikeCrotch posted:I too want the shores of my socialist utopia to be awash with the blood of Syrian refugees Okay, I'll argue with this one. About 20 years ago the European project was going pretty good - it gave a lot of hope to people like me that things would get better. You're all right that central Europe is turning into a xenophobic poo poo show right now, but it is the only goddamn hope. I don't want to be in a Britain that's a little socialist utopia while everyone else starves - what kind of structure do you think could start to organise socialist goals on a larger scale? (hint, it'll look like the EU).
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The only socialism a single single country will get is like it ends up being in every single isolated socialist country, because the rest of the world embargoes and blockades the poo poo out of you, like what's going on with cuba, because they know if you pull it off and make it look as easy as it really is, their regimes are next. Leaving EU is a mistake, despite how horrible it is, IMO.
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Hexyflexy posted:Okay, I'll argue with this one. About 20 years ago the European project was going pretty good - it gave a lot of hope to people like me that things would get better. You're all right that central Europe is turning into a xenophobic poo poo show right now, but it is the only goddamn hope. I don't want to be in a Britain that's a little socialist utopia while everyone else starves - what kind of structure do you think could start to organise socialist goals on a larger scale? (hint, it'll look like the EU).
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jBrereton posted:The massive surge in support that led to neither of them getting a majority, yes. And the message the public want to send by rallying round the two major parties is that they don't like what those parties are saying?
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jBrereton posted:The CORBECON. That unfortunately isn't going to happen. I reckon we can get a McDonnellcon though (good communist).
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Gum posted:And the message the public want to send by rallying round the two major parties is that they don't like what those parties are saying?
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jBrereton posted:The "surge in support" was down to UKIP not getting 4 million votes because Brexit was done and the party had a complete meltdown instead of being a post brexit ANC type deal for the English, it wasn't an endorsement of Dementia Tax policies. Yes, the increase in tory support was likely due to their brexit policy. What is your point?
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the nazi pug guy got convicted i don't care about that nonsense, but i'm curious, how is speech defined and regulated in the UK?
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Dreylad posted:the nazi pug guy got convicted Hate speech against protected classes is banned, organisations which are classified as glorifying terrorism or propagating hate speech (so jihadi groups and fash) can be banned, our libel and slander laws are really strong and generally benefit the victim of the libel/slander, the rich and powerful can take out injunctions to stop the press reporting the specifics of something and super injunctions which stop the press talking about the thing at all including the fact that it has an injunction on it. The first is awesome, the second is bad given our lovely government, the third is lovely given our rich and powerful and the fourth is really poo poo.
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A shame. The Kurds gave the heve-ho to war tourists some time ago, so I'm sure she was fighting the good fight. Canada meanwhile stockpiled weapons and ammo to send to the Kurds, and that is now...remaining in its warehouse, and Canada is 'tacking away' from Kurdish support as Turkey got involved directly and as a NATO ally it's more than a little awkward
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Bryter posted:lol at the replies to this holy poo poo this tweet wins all of the awards imo. the replies are completely surreal
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Guys rejected muppet designs do not a good government make
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who would elect an analogue synthesizer mp?
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Uranium posted:who would elect an analogue synthesizer mp? me tbh but i’d probably vote for an arp 
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can britain just have a referendum and get corbyn into the pm slot thanks
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Inshallah. Sadly this government seems intent on clinging to power indefinitely, even as it tears them to shreds And gives the rest of us permanent blue balls
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I cannot wait to start complaining about Prime Minister Corbyns crappy government.
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Bryter posted:lol at the replies to this how will the labour party ever survive without *checks notes* todd bonzalez
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Fartrage posted:And let me tell you - during that 21 month transition there are already hundreds of under 10-metre, inshore fishermen in this country literally existing on the brink oh no won't someone think of the literally hundreds of fishermen affected by brexit over everyone else
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Hexyflexy posted:Okay, I'll argue with this one. About 20 years ago the European project was going pretty good - it gave a lot of hope to people like me that things would get better. You're all right that central Europe is turning into a xenophobic poo poo show right now, but it is the only goddamn hope. I don't want to be in a Britain that's a little socialist utopia while everyone else starves - what kind of structure do you think could start to organise socialist goals on a larger scale? (hint, it'll look like the EU). It's not just Central Europe - look at what's happening in France and Italy as well I've no doubt that international solidarity is needed both to combat global capital (through things like international tax agreements etc) and refugee crises, but the question is whether the EU, which is absolutely a capitalist, technocratic, neoliberal institution, can be reformed into something good along those lines or whether it would be easier to go via another route. Had the referendum not happened or Remain had one I probably would have been happy to go along with reforming the EU from the inside, but now that Brexit is happening it feels like it's not worth the massive amount of political capital it would take to reverse the decision when that would be taking away from the potential for a left-wing transformation of the UK. There's also the fact that the EU is on pretty shaky ground right now - anti-EU sentiment is building throughout the continent, in particular if Italy pushes for leaving the EU and/or the Euro that might blow the whole thing up then and there.
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jBrereton posted:The massive surge in support that led to neither of them getting a majority, yes. tories up from 36.9 to 42.4% labour up from 30.4 to 40.0% the FPTP constituency system gives a distorted result compared to the real support parties get at the ballot box. doesn't mean the large increase in vote share for both main parties didn't happen.
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nopantsjack posted:A few pretty stupid posts over the last two pages so I thought I'd join in 
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Follow Nigel and Jacob's lead and dump anything and everything that is negatively affected by brexit in the thames. Suddenly we have created lots more prime, central london real estate to build flats on to sell to russian money launderers. This is my brexit plan.
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was listening to the bcc world service on the upcoming french strikes and the presenters, who i thought were supposed to be neutral, are so anti union its insane. what happened to the bbc
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tekz posted:was listening to the bcc world service on the upcoming french strikes and the presenters, who i thought were supposed to be neutral, are so anti union its insane. what happened to the bbc the party in power selects the heads of the BBC the party in power is the tories
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