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Gustav posted:It's like, the absolute worst of both possible worlds. What the hell. Who do they imagine will want to play this? Well, they specifically said in the article "casual and commander players", so..
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The Human Crouton posted:Buy-a-box only promo. Because the individual managers only care about their own performance and keeping their job. As happens all the time in big corporate environments, the bare minimum baseline is "your numbers improved slightly over last quarter", despite the fact that you can't sustain growth indefinitely like that. The tiniest disruption to the trend sends them flailing to fix things as quickly as possible, leading to decisions like: "How can we get players to buy more Standard sealed product.....a bunch of them left during the KTK and Kaladesh debacles to play Commander instead....I KNOW, STANDARD-ONLY COMMANDER!" I just reread MaRo's old article about "20 things that were supposed to ruin Magic", and the entry about the New World Order changes hasn't aged well. That seems to be the cause of 99% of the problems we've had in Standard over the last few years.
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The Human Crouton posted:Buy-a-box only promo. Because they weren’t expanding enough for somebody in WOTC/Hasbro, they hosed up bad with a couple new of sets and now it’s snowballing
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Count Bleck posted:Well, they specifically said in the article "casual and commander players", so.. good thing they never accidentally print good cards when they mean to print mediocre stuff 
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I just reread MaRo's old article about "20 things that were supposed to ruin Magic", and the entry about the New World Order changes hasn't aged well. That seems to be the cause of 99% of the problems we've had in Standard over the last few years. Literally 0 of the recent problems in Standard are from NWO, which is only about card complexity at common.
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Mar 21, 2018 17:14
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Does the special booster slot mean common legends? Maybe in addition to the pushed Standard Commander we can have... Pauper commander?
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Mar 21, 2018 17:17
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I believe that uncommon is the lowest printed rarity on the legends in DOM.
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whydirt posted:Literally 0 of the recent problems in Standard are from NWO, which is only about card complexity at common. You are correct. I guess in my brain I lump in changes like "Oblivion Ring is too complicated, let's re-template that" and other deliberate simplifications and slashing of things like efficient removal or Llanowar Elf type cards. I feel like Standard is at least not as stale as it was, but it still has a ways to go. I have high hopes for Dominaria that I know are going to be crushed 
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Mar 21, 2018 17:22
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standard's gonna be buttfucking wild until rotation but i got high hopes for both times of the format
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Silver lining: if Sheldon switches over to standard edh, he'll stop loving around with the ban lists for normal edh.
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whydirt posted:Literally 0 of the recent problems in Standard are from NWO, which is only about card complexity at common. I hate when people complain about common removal in limited as an NWO program when the first NWO sets were the ones with Doom Blade and Lightning Bolt.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:You are correct. I guess in my brain I lump in changes like "Oblivion Ring is too complicated, let's re-template that" and other deliberate simplifications and slashing of things like efficient removal or Llanowar Elf type cards. Unsuccessfully trying to reshape the pace of play in Standard is a much more accurate way the overarching issues. Although I’d say the bigger issue that drove players away was having pushed colorless cards like new Emrakul, Aetherworks Marvel, and Smugglers Copter (and then having to ban them). Not having anyone catch the infinite combo of Saheeli and Felidar Guardian in the same block was also very dumb. Retemplating O-ring effects is good in the long run because abusing corner case rules loopholes isn’t great gameplay and the existing effects still exist in eternal formats for veteran players.
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whydirt posted:Literally 0 of the recent problems in Standard are from NWO, which is only about card complexity at common. I don't think removing complexity from common has helped things either. While its made o-ring stuff better, who knows what we have missed out on for the sake of "too complex".
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Mar 21, 2018 17:33
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Let's make a product that is only readily available to heavily invested players. That will get us new customers.
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the legendary frame treatment looks like they gave a four year old some scissors and let them cut the frame
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Sickening posted:I don't think removing complexity from common has helped things either. Helped make Standard a better format? Who knows? That wasn’t the goal though. The goal was to make the game easier to learn for new players and I don’t see any reason why it hasn’t helped with that.
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how much do physical stores usually sell boxes for? i'm wondering if it's a desperate attempt to make that make any sort of sense vs. just buying them for $90 on amazon
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Mar 21, 2018 17:37
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I’m surprised the power of energy as a mechanic seemed to catch development flat-footed when it’s basically a way to bank mana of any color across turns. Fast mana that ignores the color pie is a recipe for broken plays. The blue and green puzzleknots are just fancy dark ritual effects.
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Mar 21, 2018 17:39
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Don't worry guys. If people don't like the promo they will totally walk it back https://twitter.com/trickmtg/status/976498025135710210
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Brawl is totally WOTC attempting to cash in on the esports MOBA/hero-shooter fad
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dragon enthusiast posted:Brawl is totally WOTC attempting to cash in on the esports MOBA/hero-shooter fad lol what how
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Soul Glo posted:lol what It's jokes.
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evilweasel posted:how much do physical stores usually sell boxes for? i'm wondering if it's a desperate attempt to make that make any sort of sense vs. just buying them for $90 on amazon $90 is not really that good of a deal for online. Stores vary from msrp (like $140 lmao) to down to maybe $90, but then you'll be paying sales tax which in my durisdiction is quite a bit. The best deals are from judges you know who are trying to unload product they were payed in (double lmao), those monthly %15 off ebay coupons, or getting a case at a time from a few places like miniaturesmarket. e: If you really want savings get a business license and buy directly from distributors. Or do redemptions, maybe, if those are still a good deal.
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Mar 21, 2018 17:51
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Last time I looked the price on a case at MM was just box times six.
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Count Bleck posted:It's jokes. in a thread full of bad posts, jokes must be more obvious imo
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Mar 21, 2018 17:53
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while it's a dumb move, who cares how hard-to-get some card that you'll never play is?
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players: I don't like how scarce high-demand cards are wotc, thinking really hard: we've listened to your feedback and are now introducing cards that are low-demand and scarce
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Mar 21, 2018 17:57
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the exclusive buy a box card is a genius move by wotc to convince players they should just buy singles to get the card they need rather than cracking infinite amounts of product
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:$90 is not really that good of a deal for online. Stores vary from msrp (like $140 lmao) to down to maybe $90, but then you'll be paying sales tax which in my durisdiction is quite a bit. The best deals are from judges you know who are trying to unload product they were payed in (double lmao), those monthly %15 off ebay coupons, or getting a case at a time from a few places like miniaturesmarket. I'm not talking so much about chiseling every bit of money off the box price and trying to get the best deals possible. What I mean is, if the stores are trying to sell for noticeably more than amazon I can see them desperately trying to give the physical stores a lot more value. It's not like going to amazon and plugging in "dominaria booster box" and waiting for it to arrive is a tremendous amount of work, and if stores need to sell well above the $90 that they go for on amazon, they've gotta be screaming about how on earth do they compete with that, and this to me looks like WOTC trying to give them a way to compete with that. But, uh, that requires making this like a $10-$20 card at the minimum.
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Please someone brew a competitive standard deck with that promo.
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gently caress i want to buy a box just to get the dumb minotaurs
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odiv posted:Please someone brew a competitive standard deck with that promo. Is the promo guy actually Standard legal?
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I would pay one hundered united states dollars if the promo became part of a tier one deck and this game finally choked to death on its own scarcity.
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I don't know who I would pay it to, but god dammit, I would pay it.
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I imagine it's at least legal in the Standard Commander variant they're pushing, otherwise what's the point? And if it's legal in the format that only uses Standard legal cards, then it follows... Though who the hell knows. edit: Someone get a hold of Séance guy, maybe he can help fund some brewing.
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black potus posted:I don't know who I would pay it to, but god dammit, I would pay it. me
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black potus posted:I would pay one hundered united states dollars if the promo became part of a tier one deck and this game finally choked to death on its own scarcity. I would laugh until I stopped.
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black potus posted:I would pay one hundered united states dollars if the promo became part of a tier one deck and this game finally choked to death on its own scarcity. If Jace, VP didn't choke the game out, this thing won't.
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Kurtofan posted:gently caress i want to buy a box just to get the dumb minotaurs Same. I take solace in the fact that at least so far the set is pretty decent.
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