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fishmech posted:What do you mean by "bluescreenless shutdowns"? like, it crashes without a bluescreen
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underage at the vape shop posted:So I have fast starup disabled, and windows is still doing the thing where I'll turn my pc on and it'll have a chrome window playing whatever youtube videos before i even log in. This is expected behavior with Fall Creators Update - Windows now wants to reopen stuff you had open. Close Chrome before restarting/shutting down to avoid this. I'm not a fan of it, myself, but I close programs before shutting down anyway so it doesn't really affect me.
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I think my errors might be to do with vpn software I got from uni. There are thousands of errors relating to it over the past couple of days in the event log, I got 2 bluescreenless crashes within 3 minutes about 90 minutes ago, but this time I closed it on startup and nothings failed yet. I'm boned when I have top use Jira, I guess it doesn't like Ryzen or something? Really don't like the forced hibernation, I have an ssd for that.
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Mar 21, 2018 05:05
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underage at the vape shop posted:I'm boned when I have top use Jira, I guess it doesn't like Ryzen or something? Early Ryzen has a segfault bug that most commonly appears during compiles, contact AMD and they'll send you a replacement for free.
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Mar 21, 2018 06:18
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"Let's just reopen the all the porn and private information you had up on this when your wife or kid or visiting mom tries to use the computer next time." - some moron at Microsoft.
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Tapedump posted:Shutdown goes to hibernate now. Only Restart actually reboots the OS. He just said he has that disabled. This is a totally different feature that works like what macOS does: It logs in the last user in the background and reopens any windows. I don’t know how to disable it (or why you would want to), but you can just shutdown from the command prompt or create a shortcut to do it. KillHour posted:"Let's just reopen the all the porn and private information you had up on this when your wife or kid or visiting mom tries to use the computer next time." - some moron at Microsoft. Because we’re still on Windows 98 and separate user accounts aren’t a thing.
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i only have 1 user account and it opens that stuff up and autoplays videos before i even log in thankfully it hasnt been porn, yet. isndl posted:Early Ryzen has a segfault bug that most commonly appears during compiles, contact AMD and they'll send you a replacement for free. Mine shouldn't be early, I got it months after release when that was already a known issue. I really don't wanna have to pull the heatsink off, it was annoying as hell to get on. You really think that could be it? WIll they send me one without me having to send my current one in because I only have the one PC
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Mar 21, 2018 09:12
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astral posted:This is expected behavior with Fall Creators Update - Windows now wants to reopen stuff you had open. Close Chrome before restarting/shutting down to avoid this. I've read that there's an option to disable this. If you search for Sign-in Options, then scroll all the way down there's one labeled "Use my sign-in to automatically finish setting up my device after an update or restart" that you can uncheck. I've also read that they're changing the wording of that switch in windows release version 1800~ or whatever to include something like the phrase "and try to restore my previously open apps" because if that's what it does the current wording is laughably bad. Haven't put this to the test yet, but it might work?
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Mar 21, 2018 09:26
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astral posted:This is expected behavior with Fall Creators Update - Windows now wants to reopen stuff you had open. Close Chrome before restarting/shutting down to avoid this. This. Close your programs before you shut down, if you don't want them to reopen automatically. And, by "bluescreenless crashes" do you mean unexpected sudden reboots? As in one second you're looking at Windows the next you're looking at BIOS/firmware booting?
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underage at the vape shop posted:Mine shouldn't be early, I got it months after release when that was already a known issue. I really don't wanna have to pull the heatsink off, it was annoying as hell to get on. You really think that could be it? WIll they send me one without me having to send my current one in because I only have the one PC If you're getting crashes so immediate that Windows doesn't have time to log an event that points to a hardware issue of some sort at least. I don't think AMD recalled any chips so it's entirely possible you got an old chip still in the supply chain if you didn't check it immediately, but I don't know the details of how the Ryzen chip replacement process works. Someone in the AMD thread probably does though.
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nielsm posted:
The computer locks up, 1 time it looked like it was trying to write a bluescreen because 80% of the screen went blue and there were random looking white bits that looked like that effect from windows xp when you dragged a window around and the ghosts got stuck. Every other time it just freezes on whatever is displayed. 100% of the time the audio glitches out, like its stuck playing whatever frequencies it was playing when the crash happened. For all of them I have to hold my power button down isndl posted:I don't think AMD recalled any chips so it's entirely possible you got an old chip still in the supply chain if you didn't check it immediately, but I don't know the details of how the Ryzen chip replacement process works. Someone in the AMD thread probably does though. kms underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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I had similar lockups, vape, and the symptoms you've described sound like a hardware fault for sure, especially with the screen crapping out. The closest I could get to a solution was that it might have been the GPU or motherboard. I certainly couldn't find any hardware faults through testing, and I had my doubts about the mobo, but it was way too old for me to easily find a replacement. In the end I built a new PC, because I was planning to anyway. My guess would be that the motherboard is at fault, but I'm not sure how you would tell without buying a replacement. Otherwise, maybe stress test the GPU to see if it crashes the system? My old GPU has worked fine in my new system, so it wasn't that in my case. [edit] RAM is easy to test as well, if you haven't already, could be that as well. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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Mar 21, 2018 12:03
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nielsm posted:This. Close your programs before you shut down, if you don't want them to reopen automatically. That’s loving ridiculous. I shouldn’t have to close all my poo poo. I can’t believe there are people itt that thinks that’s acceptable.
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Mar 21, 2018 13:41
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Boris Galerkin posted:That’s loving ridiculous. I shouldn’t have to close all my poo poo. I can’t believe there are people itt that thinks that’s acceptable. Apparently hitting win + D and then hitting alt f4 will bring up the classic shutdown dialog. This will prevent applications from reopening.
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Mar 21, 2018 13:46
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Search back in the thread for people whining that apps didn't automatically restore exactly as they were before shutdown. Now an app automatically restores and people are mad. "You mean I have to CLOSE my apps? Manually??? LIKE A COMMONER?" Nobody will ever be happy.
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Mar 21, 2018 13:59
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It's almost like different people want things to work different ways, to suit what is best for them personally. Weird.
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Factor Mystic posted:Search back in the thread for people whining that apps didn't automatically restore exactly as they were before shutdown. Now an app automatically restores and people are mad. "You mean I have to CLOSE my apps? Manually??? LIKE A COMMONER?" If only is were possible to have these things called "settings" where you can check little boxes and select things from pull down menus to make things work the way you want to, MS should consider adopting this revolutionary concept.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I just got a BSOD, is that likely to be caused by faulty memory? What's a good way to check the integrity of my memory? start > mdsched.exe
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ratbert90 posted:Apparently hitting win + D and then hitting alt f4 will bring up the classic shutdown dialog. This will prevent applications from reopening. I was very confused why this auto-restore poo poo never worked for me, but I guess this explains it. Yeah, if you are literally too loving lazy to close your porn before shutting off your computer, just use the Alt-F4 shutdown menu from the desktop. Also works for avoiding mandatory updates if you need your computer turned off right now, IIRC. Used to, at least.
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I have my Mac connected to my PC and on Win7 accessing the Mac's files was a breeze but on Win10 when I try to access the Mac Windows says it can't connect, giving the old "the name might be wrong" and "check your connection" excuses for about a couple of minutes and then it suddenly works just fine. It's not a huge problem but having to wait a few minutes until I can access files on my Mac is kind of a drag. Is this a common thing? I connected the two by allowing the PC to access the Mac's files on the Mac and just typing the name of the Mac on the resource management address bar and entering username/password.
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Mar 21, 2018 17:38
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Automatically re-opening programs after a reboot is fine. What is not fine is not having an option to disable that behavior, like in OSX where you can uncheck "Automatically reopen..." when you reboot/shutdown.
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Mar 21, 2018 19:08
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Che Delilas posted:I've read that there's an option to disable this. If you search for Sign-in Options, then scroll all the way down there's one labeled "Use my sign-in to automatically finish setting up my device after an update or restart" that you can uncheck. I've also read that they're changing the wording of that switch in windows release version 1800~ or whatever to include something like the phrase "and try to restore my previously open apps" because if that's what it does the current wording is laughably bad. Whatever the future behavior may be, reports I've read indicated the option does no such thing currently. Boris Galerkin posted:That’s loving ridiculous. I shouldn’t have to close all my poo poo. I can’t believe there are people itt that thinks that’s acceptable. Nice fakepost.
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Mar 21, 2018 21:02
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:If only is were possible to have these things called "settings" where you can check little boxes and select things from pull down menus to make things work the way you want to, MS should consider adopting this revolutionary concept. Yes the problem with Windows is there aren't enough settings.
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Mar 21, 2018 21:02
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Factor Mystic posted:Yes the problem with Windows is there aren't enough settings.
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Factor Mystic posted:Search back in the thread for people whining that apps didn't automatically restore exactly as they were before shutdown. Now an app automatically restores and people are mad. "You mean I have to CLOSE my apps? Manually??? LIKE A COMMONER?" Idk, maybe like, an option or some poo poo?
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Mar 21, 2018 21:15
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ratbert90 posted:Idk, maybe like, an option or some poo poo? The default setting is ALL WRONG. 
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Mar 22, 2018 02:47
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Okay fine, but then what is the difference between Shutdown and Hibernate then?
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more like blunder
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Mar 22, 2018 04:47
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KillHour posted:Okay fine, but then what is the difference between Shutdown and Hibernate then? Hibernate hibernates; the behavior of shutdown depends on the "fast startup" option.
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Mar 22, 2018 04:55
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Remember the "not really shut down" option hibernates just the kernel.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Remember the "not really shut down" option hibernates just the kernel. code:
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redeyes posted:
If you're some kind of incompetent fool, sure.
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fishmech posted:If you're some kind of incompetent fool, sure. Says the guy that can't find the ignore button for my username.
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Factor Mystic posted:Search back in the thread for people whining that apps didn't automatically restore exactly as they were before shutdown. Now an app automatically restores and people are mad. "You mean I have to CLOSE my apps? Manually??? LIKE A COMMONER?" Having youtube videos, sometimes multiple, start playing before log in is a far cry from having my open windows "restore exactly as they were". But the real issue is that there should be two different buttons here. "Close everything and shut down" and "save everything and shut down". Windows isn't spectacular at doing either one of those.
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Dylan16807 posted:Having youtube videos, sometimes multiple, start playing before log in is a far cry from having my open windows "restore exactly as they were". That's more of a complaint for the browser devs/website devs in question, to be fair. Windows reopens the program; the browser lets the website go ahead and autoplay it. Same thing would happen if you closed the browser and reopened it yourself. 
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fishmech posted:If you're some kind of incompetent fool, sure. what's wrong with disabling hibernate? in what universe does hibernate makes sense?
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I like how I explicitly disabled automatic driver updates and Win 10 still prompts me to install them anyway because reasons.
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Volguus posted:what's wrong with disabling hibernate? in what universe does hibernate makes sense? It's nice for laptops or tablets that you're trying to conserve power on while moving to another location, but still want all your apps ready to go once you've arrived. Plain sleep is frustrating sometimes when something wakes it and then it's running hot in your bag for an hour because of some dumb reason, or it detects screen rotation and switches to portrait mode and all your windows get rearranged and resized because Windows is bad at putting things back where they were. For desktops though hibernate is pretty much unnecessary yeah, except for some corner case where you need to go into full power off but don't want to shut everything down or don't have time to (power outage and on lovely UPS?).
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astral posted:Whatever the future behavior may be, reports I've read indicated the option does no such thing currently. After testing, it seems to work for me - at least in combination with whatever other settings I have that may be relevant (Power Button Behavior = Shut Down, Fast Startup = On, who knows what else). Worth checking out for those who it annoys, at any rate.
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Factor Mystic posted:Search back in the thread for people whining that apps didn't automatically restore exactly as they were before shutdown. Now an app automatically restores and people are mad. "You mean I have to CLOSE my apps? Manually??? LIKE A COMMONER?" The real problem is the somewhat random nature of the new 'feature' - it opens some but not all of what was running before the PC shut down. Not the same stuff each time either.
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