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AnEdgelord posted:There have been more references to Slaanesh in the past two months than in the entire rest of the history of AoS combined. Plus we know Slaanesh is merely trapped in some sort of inbetween limbo rather than dead, AND current story rumors suggest Nagash's great plan in Malign Portents will result in Nagash unknowingly destroying Slaanesh's prison. I can believe this because Nagash is an idiot fucker unfit to replace Tomb Kings.
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Boon posted:About to start, posting an army pic They turned out amazing! Good luck at the tournament.
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xtothez posted:Before Adepticon there were some recent rumours recently about new Abaddon and Chosen models later this year. Plus there's been lots of whispers about EC, including this artwork from a known GW artist: New Armless-the-Harmless? Aw yisss.
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Lupercalcalcal posted:Yeah, I get that, but all I'm saying is that since they've been announced they're definitely coming, because they've already spent a decent chunk of money on them right now. Oh, absolutely. I've played Sisters since 1998. I've been through the dark times. I remember the days of no new models and crappy e-Codexes that wouldn't work on the devices I had at the time. I remember being overwhelmed when they even got a mention in Shield of Baal, and going nuts when they released Celestine and a sorta-list in Imperial Agents. I've always been worried that they'd get dropped. For a long, long time they were completely neglected. No new models from 2003 to Celestine's release made me nervous. But I never sold my models, never gave up hope. I feel so vindicated right now. Lupercalcalcal posted:But equally yeah, I get that. Dammit I want sisters of battle. I'm gonna drop so much cash when they release. I've got enough Sisters so that I'll never need another, but I'll blow hundreds of dollars on new Sisters just because.
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Mar 22, 2018 15:52
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Pendent posted:Given the different positioning of the smoke stacks and the very different carapace armor I'd be surprised if we say more than the bits for the legs from the old knight kit re-used. Even the legs have a different structure. I suspect nothing will be compatible between the kits except maybe the face plates.
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Mar 22, 2018 15:56
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Odds are good Sisters will be getting some new toys alongside their new sculpts right? What kinda holes need filling in their roster? Some kinda armoured CC squad?
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Mar 22, 2018 15:57
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Zark the Damned posted:Even the legs have a different structure. I suspect nothing will be compatible between the kits except maybe the face plates. I'm pretty OK with this, for the record. The current Knight kits look good but they leave something to be desired in terms of options for dynamic posing.
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Mar 22, 2018 15:58
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SteelMentor posted:Odds are good Sisters will be getting some new toys right? 
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Lupercalcalcal posted:Yeah, I get that, but all I'm saying is that since they've been announced they're definitely coming, because they've already spent a decent chunk of money on them right now. I'm honestly glad that Sisters have a long lead-time because I can fit in getting my Ad Mech finished first and doing Necrons before they drop. Boon posted:About to start, posting an army pic This looks great dude, that board really came together.
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++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Deathwatch) [71 PL, 1422pts] ++ + HQ + Librarian in Terminator Armor [9 PL, 153pts]: 2) Might of Heroes, 3) Psychic Scourge, Force stave, Storm bolter Watch Captain [6 PL, 129pts]: Jump Pack, Storm shield, The Beacon Angelis, Thunder hammer + Troops + Deathwatch Kill Team [9 PL, 155pts] . Deathwatch Veteran: Boltgun, Chainsword . Deathwatch Veteran: Boltgun, Chainsword . Deathwatch Veteran w/ Heavy Weapon: Deathwatch Frag Cannon . Deathwatch Veteran w/ Heavy Weapon: Deathwatch Frag Cannon . Watch Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword Deathwatch Kill Team [13 PL, 276pts] . Deathwatch Biker: Power sword, Twin boltgun . Deathwatch Veteran: Power maul, Storm shield . Deathwatch Veteran: Power sword, Storm shield . Deathwatch Veteran: Heavy Thunder Hammer . Deathwatch Veteran w/ Heavy Weapon: Deathwatch Frag Cannon . Deathwatch Veteran w/ Heavy Weapon: Deathwatch Frag Cannon . Watch Sergeant: Plasma pistol, Xenophase Blade Deathwatch Kill Team [9 PL, 132pts] . Deathwatch Veteran: Stalker Pattern Boltgun . Deathwatch Veteran: Stalker Pattern Boltgun . Deathwatch Veteran: Stalker Pattern Boltgun . Deathwatch Veteran w/ Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher . Watch Sergeant: Boltgun + Elites + Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 197pts]: Twin lascannon . Dreadnought combat weapon w/Heavy Flamer: Heavy flamer + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 172pts]: Plasma incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Plasma pistol + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [5 PL, 128pts]: Hunter-killer missile, Storm bolter, Twin lascannon Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Hunter-killer missile, 2x Storm bolter ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Inquisition) [7 PL, 102pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Gametype Regimental Doctrine: Astra Millitarum/Imperium Use Beta Rules + HQ + Inquisitor [5 PL, 86pts]: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Combi-plasma, Force axe, Ordo Xenos, Warlord . Psyker: Dominate Primaris Psyker [2 PL, 46pts]: Force Stave, Psychic Maelstrom, Terrifying Visions + Troops + Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 112pts] . 8x Scion: 8x Hot-shot Lasgun . Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun . Tempestor: Bolt pistol, Chainsword Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 110pts] . 8x Scion: 8x Hot-shot Lasgun . Scion w/ Special Weapon: Flamer . Tempestor: Hot-shot Laspistol, Power sword Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 104pts] . 8x Scion: 8x Hot-shot Lasgun . Scion w/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher . Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol + Elites + Acolytes [1 PL, 8pts]: Ordo Xenos . Acolyte: Bolt pistol, Chainsword Acolytes [1 PL, 8pts]: Ordo Xenos . Acolyte: Bolt pistol, Chainsword Arco-Flagellants [2 PL, 45pts]: 3x Arco Flagellant Death Cult Assassins [1 PL, 34pts]: 2x Death Cult Assassins Hospitaller [2 PL, 30pts] ++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [25 PL, 495pts] ++ + Lord of War + Cerastus Knight-Acheron [25 PL, 495pts]: Acheron flame cannon, Reaper chainfist, Twin heavy bolter ++ Total: [125 PL, 2500pts] ++ The Inquisition weirdos are there to appease my fluff bunny soul. The Deathwatch are listed as a patrol but should be a battalion. It has been pointed out that I lack anti tank. I’m hoping that the dread, razorback, and Hellblasters will do the trick plus the frag cannons and the knight in melee.
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Mar 22, 2018 16:03
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As a Dark Tower fan I appreciate that the answer to the biggest question in 40k is '19.
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Schadenboner posted:Almost as if treating them as the Cog Boy's big bitches was a bad thing? Hey, you leave my cyberdongs alone drat it!
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Mar 22, 2018 16:24
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Beerdeer posted:The Inquisition weirdos are there to appease my fluff bunny soul. The Deathwatch are listed as a patrol but should be a battalion. doesn't look like you have a way to give those Scions orders it'd be worth considering fiddling with things a bit to get an officer into the list
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Mar 22, 2018 16:27
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SteelMentor posted:
Weapon variety would be nice. A flier would be neat too, and seems to be in the vein of things I'd think are likely given the propensity for both fliers and centerpieces in recent releases. Assault squads, I honestly don't know how well that fits with the army concept, but it's for sure something they don't have. A vehicle or equivalent large weapon platform that can benefit from acts of faith A cheap screening unit? Again, not sure how well that fits. But I think the most important thing we could get would be another (generic, non-named) HQ option. Canonesses aren't bad, but they're the only option.
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xtothez posted:Before Adepticon there were some recent rumours recently about new Abaddon and Chosen models later this year. Plus there's been lots of whispers about EC, including this artwork from a known GW artist: We don't need new chosen though, we desperately need new standard CSMs. Or I guess make Chosen the Biglys of CSM and just squat the chaos marines. Hooo boy I want plastic noise marines!!
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Mar 22, 2018 16:37
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Giant Isopod posted:A cheap screening unit? Again, not sure how well that fits. They had Frateris Militia once upon a time, they could totally do that again.
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SRM posted:They had Frateris Militia once upon a time, they could totally do that again. redemptionists GW's probably already working on some for Necromunda
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Zaphod42 posted:We don't need new chosen though, we desperately need new standard CSMs. A Black Legion themed release would be the best time to update regular CSMs, Havocs and Chosen, as well as biggifying them to be in scale with the new Primaris and Deathguard stuff. They did also say that the once they're caught up on codexes, the next stage is campaign themed releases like AoS. I could totally believe them doing an Abaddon vs loyalist Primarch storyline to release both.
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SteelMentor posted:Odds are good Sisters will be getting some new toys alongside their new sculpts right? What they need mostly just tanky CC that can keep up with Celestine, and even then Crusaderd are really good at gumming up melee units. Sisters have been good since 8e's release, and so long as they have Acts of Faith they're going to be really good detachment allies for other armies. As for actual balance stuff: - Repentia need some sort of buff, as right now Flagellents are better against hordes and Death Cultists are better at hurting elite enemies. They cost too much for how little they provide on their own, and require a support group of priest & mistress to really be workable for the single round they'll survive. - Celestians need to be able to keep up with characters to do their job - Hospitallers are really redundant compared to Imagifiers. Giving them the Order keyword would help with this. - Even with their hilariously cheap 15pt price, Dialogus' cant keep up with the Sister's jet/drive 'n gun lifestyle, and cant take a hit or deal damage. - Exorcist's are way too frail for how little damage they put out, 135 points (using the newly adopted measurement system, little more than half a babyknight) is silly. None of this is necessary for them to be good, but it would introduce more variety than the current Car Squad sisters.
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Beep boop more robot progress  
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Neurolimal posted:- Exorcist's are way too frail for how little damage they put out, 135 points (using the newly adopted measurement system, little more than half a babyknight) is silly. Yes but how does this compare in points per wound of damage output against various types of targets as compared to a shadowsword?
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I kind of hope Acts of Faith gets looked at. As it is, you're incentivized to just run a small detachment with other stuff since you only get one (two with Celestine) per turn. It kind of punishes you for running a pure Sister's list. Even something simple like you get one Act of Faith per detachment or on a scale based on points would be nice.
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Floppychop posted:I kind of hope Acts of Faith gets looked at. I thought this was the whole function of Imagifiers?
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Booley posted:Yes but how does this compare in points per wound of damage output against various types of targets as compared to a shadowsword? Yeah it is pretty obvious being a pipe organ that launches missiles have no value.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Yeah it is pretty obvious being a pipe organ that launches missiles have no value. It's just such a boring concept you know. They should really be shooting rocket-propelled explosive skulls.
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Schadenboner posted:40kFansAreTheFuckingWorst.txt I don't know what you're talking about   
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It would be cool if the Sisters could take some Arbites or PDF troopers as a cheap screening unit. I wonder if they will get a plastic version of the bunker Rhino that FW used to sell.
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xtothez posted:I don't know what you're talking about SJW is such a useful term because I know the moment someone uses it unironically I know that I can discount anything else they have to say.
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xtothez posted:I don't know what you're talking about It's peak Dakka. That Community post has answered a ton of poo poo they were whining about before (army builder, "where's the survey", why won't GW ever engage with the community), plastic Sisters are finally announced after like two decades of waiting, and so rather than enjoy any part of it they've immediately engaged in a race to the bottom to see who can have the sourest grapes about getting everything they wanted. The biggest whiner imo is the mod (first quote) who's decided that getting news about the release is some kind of conspiracy and that hearing about the design process as it happens is some kind of marketing experiment which is A SLAP IN THE FACE to "real" Sisters players. No wonder their culture is so bad. Not to mention the guy who thinks that anyone outside the tiny wargaming circle is going to somehow be drawn into a debate about the design of Sisters by "SJWs." Living Image fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 22, 2018 |
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xtothez posted:I don't know what you're talking about 
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Something interesting that I think got lost a bit in the general announcement:Warhammer Community posted:So, we’re going to do something we’ve never done before – right up until the release, we’ll be bringing you updates on the Sisters of Battle, sharing images and snippets of info and a whole ton of behind the scenes goodness. Now that's neat, and it fits right in with the whole community engagement thing they're trying out, but then you look at the above screenshots and wonder, oh dear, you're going to engage with that community huh?
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Giant Isopod posted:Something interesting that I think got lost a bit in the general announcement:
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xtothez posted:I don't know what you're talking about Oh, FFS.
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They're not engaging with that community, in a sense - these are ostensibly being put out for people who WANT new Sisters stuff, and I highly doubt those shitbirds actually want new Sisters stuff. Not unless it conforms to whatever stupid idea of SoB they have in their heads, anyway. GW isn't going to court them, what with their recent push for more representation of women in their stuff (as naff as it can be sometimes), so they're basically going to prune out these fucks over the next three years or so. Also, GW never said in that release they were taking feedback on model design, so I presume outrage from any angle on the models is going to be ignored unless they can get more goodwill or one or two points are taken up raised by the majority community.
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that third dude's hangup about future sisters releases not being 100% cheesecake is so strange when GW released a whole army of naked murder aelf ladies this month
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The Deleter posted:GW isn't going to court them, what with their recent push for more representation of women in their stuff (as naff as it can be sometimes), so they're basically going to prune out these fucks over the next three years or so. Here's hoping.
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Oh for sure, I just feel for the person who has to deal with the wave of troglodytes that's going to wash up on their facebook page
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Giant Isopod posted:Oh for sure, I just feel for the person who has to deal with the wave of troglodytes that's going to wash up on their facebook page Yeah the Facebook isn't as bad because there isn't the same toxic echo chamber effect that Dakka has, but there's still guaranteed to be angry reacts and comments on every post, complaining that some dude's specific thing isn't being made RIGHT NOW. The team are pretty game about dealing with it, but it must be tiresome to try and engage with.
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zeal posted:that third dude's hangup about future sisters releases not being 100% cheesecake is so strange when GW released a whole army of naked murder aelf ladies this month Those people complain about the new naked murder elves. They say they're too conservative and the "sports bra armor" hides too much. Hams gonna ham.
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I just want them to stay scaled with the old sisters, but like - I'll survive if they aren't. I wonder if we'll get them before FW puts out the rest of the 30k Sisters of Silence.
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