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SyntheticPolygon posted:I mean Deku has consistently shattered his limbs in almost every one-on-one fight he's had. He does a lot better when fighting in a team but I think his fights against Shinsou and Bakugou are the only times he hasn't severely injured himself when he doesn't have back up with him. He broke his thumb to stop himself being ringed out against Shinsou, even.
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Carlosologist posted:what i'm getting at is that Deku and Hatsume will definitely end up together He's a hero power nerd and she's a hero gadget nerd. The differences are too much to reconcile.
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Mar 22, 2018 03:10
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It's pretty telling that in this popularity poll they ran, our main overarching villain got only one vote, out of 40,000. I like this series but god, its villains suck so much. I like a bunch of them individually, but they're all either complete losers or really boring, and there's basically no inbetween. The losers are fun, but also it feels like whenever they accomplish something it's super contrived, and the boring villains are... boring.
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Mar 22, 2018 07:36
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That’s a Crunchyroll poll though, and he’s barely done anything in S1/2, his actual legit growth comes after AFO gets beaten and he gets his head out of his rear end.
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Mar 22, 2018 09:16
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Toga is the highest villain in 33rd? I guess nobody likes the bad guys.
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Mar 22, 2018 09:50
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Shigaraki is just this weird, gangly lame-o with a hand in his face. He needs a makeover, stat.
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Mar 22, 2018 09:55
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Say Nothing posted:Toga is the highest villain in 33rd? I guess nobody likes the bad guys. Stain is 21st.  Last Celebration posted:That’s a Crunchyroll poll though, and he’s barely done anything in S1/2 It's not just based on the anime. Koichi is on the list. Suneater is on the list. loving Overhaul is on the list. And yet Twice somehow isn't. The gently caress, CR???
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Mar 22, 2018 10:08
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Also nerds have terrible taste. I mean seriously Deku is #1? DEKU? I don't dislike him but there's so many better characters that get me paying attention more when the focus is on them.
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Mar 22, 2018 10:33
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The VA loving rule and Shigaraki's development into a better evil villain by becoming a better friend and caring about his squad might legitimately be the most interesting thing about the series to me. I mean Shigaraki still sucks and the only time he has ever accomplished anything it was by laughing at a man that had already been beaten and broken then cutting his hand off. But man the dude's wormed his way into my heart. I feel like he's actually changed a lot and basically every arc he shows up in he grows and changes. From his first appearance, to Stain, to the Bakugou rescue, to the beginning then the end of the Overhaul arc, I think you get to see different sides to him and most of them are pretty interesting or engaging. I mean in most of those appearances he does nothing but get owned, and look like a loser, and he doesn't feel like a big deal. But this lovely rear end in a top hat learning to be a better villain by being nicer and trusting his team is really great. I think maybe Bakugou's the only other character, who has been that consistent in development. Though Bakufou definitely does it better and actually comes off like a good character who means something and is cool but still. I hear lots of talk about how MHA does a lot of stuff that's unique and not really seen in other contemporary shonen works but I don't really see it for the most part. But the VA is something I don't really see often. Villains being friends and being much more effective because of it is pretty common, but villain's learning to be better friends and use teamwork and care about one another to become more effective, dangerous and scary isn't so much. I guess i'm just really interested in seeing how the VA develops and what they turn into. I'm very engaged in these evil friends. In like a few arcs Shigaraki's going to take a bullet for Twice or something and i'm gonna be super hyped!!
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Mar 22, 2018 10:35
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I like how the va learn from their failures and constantly improve over time. their first unqualified success being on a group of generic policemen and a guy deku had already dunked on was a little underwhelming but the scene itself was coolDoctor_Fruitbat posted:Shigaraki is just this weird, gangly lame-o with a hand in his face. He needs a makeover, stat. his design is real good and the best part about him imo
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Mar 22, 2018 10:52
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It's kind of weird to me that the VA are the underdogs in the series.
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Mar 22, 2018 11:42
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Shigaraki is cool (although at the point in the comic where the show is at he was kind of a loser) and popularity contests where you just pick one character among like fifty then rank those are pretty dumb.
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I was just thinking about how amazingly Shigaraki played Overhaul by just telling Toga and Twice to do whatever they felt like. Like, he knows that if he tells them to sabotage the Precepts, Overhaul will find out; so he just sics the pair on him and trusts them to gently caress it up. Its great, and it shows that he's not only come along way in being able to plan things, but also that he's really getting to know the rest of the League  Also I know most of the League members haven't done much yet, but every one who made it past the school trip has endeared themselves to me in some way. Twice and Toga were the best part of the Overhaul arc, especially Twice getting increasingly pissed off at Overhaul misgendering Magne. Spinner is a big idiot but in a hilarious way that makes me want to see more of him. As for Mr Compress I just loving love magicians. It's great seeing these guys come together as a weird evil family.
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Mar 22, 2018 13:33
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Toga is a real success story; she's coming along well as an unassuming but pretty competent minor villain. Spinner is an edgelord dork who probably poses for photos with his trench coat and Japanese Katana, but he seems like he's going to assert himself later on, so good for him.
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Mar 22, 2018 13:46
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fractalairduct posted:I was just thinking about how amazingly Shigaraki played Overhaul by just telling Toga and Twice to do whatever they felt like. Like, he knows that if he tells them to sabotage the Precepts, Overhaul will find out; so he just sics the pair on him and trusts them to gently caress it up. Its great, and it shows that he's not only come along way in being able to plan things, but also that he's really getting to know the rest of the League Dabi sheds a single flaming black tear.
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Mar 22, 2018 14:04
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Huh, wow. I don't remember a single thing Dabi has done. I mean I know he's the most competent of the new recruits and all but like, he's the only member that doesn't stand out to me.
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Mar 22, 2018 14:13
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fractalairduct posted:he's the only member that doesn't stand out to me. What, even less than Giran?
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Mar 22, 2018 14:22
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Dabi will stand out plenty when he kills his father, Endeavor.
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Mar 22, 2018 14:42
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Also the league of villains is great and I'll be legitimately disappointed if they ever pull the "we're villains so I'm going to kill one of you to prove I'm top evil guy" or just intentionally sacrifice someone. The people they've lost after the training ground disaster have been close knit and any losses were generally due to incompetence, misjudgment, or running into Deku rather than willfully letting allies get screwed. I really enjoy them being this evil friends team that cares about each other enough that they were all very pissed at Magne being killed and wanted revenge and haven't just dumped Spinner for being a Stain fanboy that screwed them getting Deku based on his ideals. Also the chapters with the League of Villains are specifically so much more violent than the rest of the comic. It's interesting that the tone changes very intentionally and dramatically when they are the focus. Magne getting exploded was one of the most shocking things I've seen because there was no foreshadowing that such a thing would be happening in this comic.
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One problem I can see Shigaraki having is that, due to the nature of his power(one touch and you're dead), it might be hard writing an interesting climactic battle with him. Overhaul had a similar problem, but he also had to ability to create things like spikes and fusing with people to become a horrible monster man, Shigaraki's quirk can only destroy. Then again, maybe he'll end up stealing Overhaul's quirk(I'm pretty sure he kept one of his hands) or inherit All For One, so that would solve that problem.
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MHA has some incredible villains. The VA is really interesting to follow and pose a cool parallel to the main cast. Seeing them work together as a group is also great. They feel like the troupe from Hunter X Hunter. That face Twice made when he revealed how he felt about Mag dying really hit home for some reason. Other than the VA other heroes were also done really well. Stain was fantastic and Overhaul was a great set up for the VA to grow. And even the one offs are pretty cool. Moonfish was memorable by being loving creepy. And I really hope we get to see more of Rappa.
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Dragonatrix posted:Stain is 21st. The poll includes manga-only characters, yes, but it's still on an anime-streaming site, where most people will have been watching the anime, and from what I've seen talking to people personally, at least, (the plural of anecdote is not data, etc. so this doesn't mean much) more English-speaking people watch the anime than read the manga. Most people who'd have been answering that poll would have only seen up to the end of season two of the anime at most, which would dramatically affect your impression of the series' villains. Also, as someone else stated, trying to judge character popularity based solely on who was ranked people's #1 favorite in a poll that listed at least 43 options (in addition to Twice, Magne's not on there, among others, but given Overhaul being there I figure there were options that got no votes) is dumb. People can like more than one character, and a lot of people can like something without it being the favorite of any of them, necessarily.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I mean Shigaraki still sucks and the only time he has ever accomplished anything it was by laughing at a man that had already been beaten and broken then cutting his hand off. I mean, the lead up to that was the VA kicking the poo poo out of the people escorting him, including defeating and likely killing the hero that was present.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I like how the va learn from their failures and constantly improve over time. their first unqualified success being on a group of generic policemen and a guy deku had already dunked on was a little underwhelming but the scene itself was cool Remember that the Overhaul convoy wasn't just generic policemen, they also had an actual pro hero escorting them(the sand dude) who the VA completely owned the poo poo out of with the power of teamwork.
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Kanos posted:Remember that the Overhaul convoy wasn't just generic policemen, they also had an actual pro hero escorting them(the sand dude) who the VA completely owned the poo poo out of with the power of teamwork. A hero who hard-countered Shigaraki at that, one of the few people we've seen so far, possibly the only one, who his power couldn't kill. So the others stepped in to help and mercilessly annihilated the guy while Shigaraki went car-hopping (something his powers don't help him with at all) like it was nothing. Also, "GRAND THEFT AUTOOOOOO!!!"
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Roland Jones posted:A hero who hard-countered Shigaraki at that, one of the few people we've seen so far, possibly the only one, who his power couldn't kill. So the others stepped in to help and mercilessly annihilated the guy while Shigaraki went car-hopping (something his powers don't help him with at all) like it was nothing. Shigaraki power did help break through the glass and murder the police officers in side however.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Shigaraki power did help break through the glass and murder the police officers in side however. Oh, of course, but killing random police officers isn't particularly impressive. Feats of athleticism beyond what people who actually have relevant powers have pulled off felt more like it was worth mentioning when discussing whether Shigaraki/the VA sucks or not.
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Roland Jones posted:Oh, of course, but killing random police officers isn't particularly impressive. Feats of athleticism beyond what people who actually have relevant powers have pulled off felt more like it was worth mentioning when discussing whether Shigaraki/the VA sucks or not. I never thought of it until now, but it is kind of weird non-hero law enforcement don't receive any quirk training or have privileged quirk use.
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A gun would probably make a lot of Deku's fights a lot easier. I always thought it was weird how Deku didn't get more media attention for beating Overhaul. The kid kicked a Yakuza monster a mile into the air in the middle of town, you'd think someone would want to interview him about that. I guess the idea is that the VA attack on the police convey overshadowed his accomplishments, but still.
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Mar 22, 2018 21:00
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He's going to break his wrist from the recoil.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:He's going to break his wrist from the recoil. Well if it was made by Hatsume, then chances are it'll explode in his hand after one shot.
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This is japan get your guns out of here. Now if this was set in the US oh man would this be a loving mess.
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Rhonne posted:One problem I can see Shigaraki having is that, due to the nature of his power(one touch and you're dead), it might be hard writing an interesting climactic battle with him. I see you haven't read HxH where most of the fight is just maneuvering to pull off your killshot.
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Mar 22, 2018 21:09
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Deku has a gun but it's a gun from the Yakuza games so it's super easy to survive a shot from it
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ChaseSP posted:This is japan get your guns out of here. Now if this was set in the US oh man would this be a loving mess. Snipe really should be the most powerful hero in Japan.
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I like Shigaraki a lot.
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Eej posted:I see you haven't read HxH where most of the fight is just maneuvering to pull off your killshot. jojo also has a number of fights where one or both participants have powers that more or less kill you instantly
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mabels big day posted:I like Shigaraki a lot. I didn't like him at first, because he was a bit of a whiny weiner, but he's really improved since Deku gave him his advice.
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Yinlock posted:jojo also has a number of fights where one or both participants have powers that more or less kill you instantly Honestly, I would argue that that's the majority of Jojo fights. Very seldomly do you get Stands just having a DBZ punch-off, usually when a Stand user can hit their opponent with their Stand it's game over right there bar some outside interruption.
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