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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

ToastyPotato posted:

And didn't they make it so that these new versions made to avoid paying royalties will not count for royalties themselves because they are "derivative" of pre-existing characters?

That was part of the runaround with Killer Frost. There's some allegation that they changed Mr Terrific's name to avoid paying John Ostrander full royalties.

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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
I just like her arc and villianous plan this season. The flowers that grew out of people's bodies was brutal.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Although it is kind of funny how they really obviously can't afford to do a special effect where you actually SEE it growing out of a person.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Mr Hootington posted:

I just like her arc and villianous plan this season. The flowers that grew out of people's bodies was brutal.

pfft, call me when they get a real superpower

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I was kind of hoping dd season 2 would get back to lawyering and Matt could hire Jess for some PI work, but if it is born again then I doubt it.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


What's the point of doing Born Again now that Nuke is dead.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
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Lurdiak posted:

What's the point of doing Born Again now that Nuke is dead.

Do we seriously have a problem with changing things from the comics? Because they change more than what they stay true to.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Rhyno posted:

Do we seriously have a problem with changing things from the comics? Because they change more than what they stay true to.

I really hope they avoid what happened to Karen for this adaptation. Both Cox and producers have said it's going to be based on Born Again.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Well my point was that Nuke is inconsequential to the story. Any villain can be used and hey, this is a likely time to introduce Bullseye.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Cythereal posted:

I really hope they avoid what happened to Karen for this adaptation. Both Cox and producers have said it's going to be based on Born Again.

Is that the storyline where she becomes a drug addicted porn star?

I like how Turk has become the constant through the series instead of Claire.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

I hope we get to a point in the MCU like we are in the comics where Turk has an Infinity Stone.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
I think it is safe to say that when ever a big story arc is claimed to be adapted, they generally mean only the general theme or themes (and possibly some interesting visuals), and not specific characterizations and character developments, especially for secondary characters. Marvel Netflix has their own little world going, so it would be ridiculously awful if they suddenly do what no one making comic movies and TV adaptations has done and randomly copy paste an actual comic script onto the screen. I'm not familiar with the Born Again story line, but I'm sure there is a brief synopsis that will probably be the basis for the new season. Matt's character arc will likely be the most similar thing.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


It's just that the Nuke part of Born Again is like the best few issues of a Daredevil comic maybe ever, and now they can't do any of it. That straight up blows no matter how you look at it. I thought Nuke was interesting in season 1 of Jessica Jones and I thought he'd just show up as even more jacked up and like his comic book version later down the line, but instead he got killed offscreen to show how scary a really boring new villain is.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Sometimes they just use the name. Thor: Ragnarok has almost nothing in common with the comics where Ragnarok actually came. And then there's Age of Ultron...

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
For me it's like when they announced Punisher in DD S2. I did not want a word for word redo of the rooftop scene. In fact, what they came up with is better than what happened in the comics in my opinion. However, I did expect a version of it. There are a few key sequences in Born Again to me. Nuke is one of them. It wouldn't be the same, no, but I thought it would be an adaptation of it.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


It's not like Cap and Thor are going to show up at the end of DD S3 anyways

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
They might try to replace Nuke with Gladiator for the mental breakdown aspect of it but lmao Defenders and DD s2 were poo poo so this should also be expected to be poo poo

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Supposedly Constantine to become Series Regular in Legends of Tomorrow season 4........if it's renewed.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
As long as they don't cover any ground his show was supposed to. I wouldn't exactly trust the Legends team to do it any good, and I would love for Constantine to get another chance.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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Welp, def not getting another season now.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Rhyno posted:

Welp, def not getting another season now.

I'd be surprised if they didn't, actually. 4 seasons means syndication eligibility.

Actually I'm surprised I haven't seen Arrow syndicated anywhere.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Koalas March posted:

I'd be surprised if they didn't, actually. 4 seasons means syndication eligibility.

Actually I'm surprised I haven't seen Arrow syndicated anywhere.

Yeah, I would've thought TNT would've bought it for its "CW Syndication Mornings" of Charmed and Supernatural reruns by now.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

RevKrule posted:

Yeah, I would've thought TNT would've bought it for its "CW Syndication Mornings" of Charmed and Supernatural reruns by now.

I am fairly certain I've seen Arrow on TNT.

Yep. Just gotta be up at the butt crack of dawn! http://www.tntdrama.com/shows/arrow

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Koalas March posted:

I'd be surprised if they didn't, actually. 4 seasons means syndication eligibility.

Actually I'm surprised I haven't seen Arrow syndicated anywhere.

Plus, like the article said, the CW is adding another day to their schedule, so they'll need content and Legends is a solid performer by their standards. I was a little worried they might decide to only keep one of Legends or Supergirl, but now I'm fairly confident CW will keep all their Arrowverse shows, and maybe even iZombie!

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I'd honestly rather watch something based on Bendis' run where Daredevil is publicly outed but Matt Murdock still pretends he isn't Daredevil than an incredibly loose adaptation of Born Again. Luke Cage, Jessica Jones and Danny Rand also all have cameos in that run you if want your synchronicity.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

I'd honestly rather watch something based on Waid's run where Daredevil is publicly outed but Matt Murdock still pretends he isn't Daredevil.

ftfy. Also then we could get Matt giving up and re-outing himself but still working as a lawyer in tacky red suits

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



As long as we get this:

Diet Poison
Jan 20, 2008

LICK MY ASS
I'd love for them to do a riff on the current comic "Mayor Fisk" storyline. I fuckin' loved d'Onofrio in season 1, sue me.

I just finished JJ and I thought the performances were great even if I didn't think the story particularly was. I think Hogarth's situation tied in just enough to be relevant to the A-plot and no more, gave her lots of room to stand on her own away from Jessica and yet didn't feel extraneous though it really could have.

SonicRulez posted:

And drat it, where was Claire
If I ever see Rosario Dawson in one of these shows again, it'll be too soon. I wonder if them dropping her as a character tying the stories together had to do with viewer feedback or if they just decided that element had run its course after Defenders.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

New Cloak and Dagger trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TT0ZREuoKY

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Diet Poison posted:

If I ever see Rosario Dawson in one of these shows again, it'll be too soon. I wonder if them dropping her as a character tying the stories together had to do with viewer feedback or if they just decided that element had run its course after Defenders.

I'd bet it's a little of running its course and a little that she kind of got upgraded to a main character in Luke Cage, so they're probably just having her stay there instead of popping off to other shows.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 20, 2018

Metalshark
Feb 4, 2013

The seagull is essential.

Can't say that it blew me away, but I really like that they're setting it in New Orleans and there's some promise there amidst the cliche trailer fodder lines.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Also, they said “poo poo” in the trailer so it’ll be edgier than ABC Family fare

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

zoux posted:

Also, they said “poo poo” in the trailer so it’ll be edgier than ABC Family fare

Freeform exists to be the rebranding of ABC Family as the hip cable TV network for young folk. And all the cool cable networks say poo poo these days.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The 700 Club calling everyone douchebags takes some getting used to but I don’t even notice it now.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Aphrodite posted:

The 700 Club calling everyone douchebags takes some getting used to but I don’t even notice it now.

Pat Robertson is a demon and the proof is in the contract he got someone to sign on that god forsaken channel, holy poo poo. I hope someone's soul was worth it.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
I like Black Lightning's costume but Thunder's new one is loving bad, Halloween bag costume bad.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Sgt. Politeness posted:

I like Black Lightning's costume but Thunder's new one is loving bad, Halloween bag costume bad.

Her homemade one was so much better.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
Yeah the piecemeal drag queen store version actually fit her while the custom made professional model appears to be one-size-fits-all(not her).

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



This looks way better than I was expecting it to be. Like they're obviously amping up certain elements of the characters because the show's squarely aimed at teenagers, and I haven't been one in a while, but it still looks really well produced and interesting.

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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Gotham Joker pictures!!!!

https://twitter.com/GothamHub/status/976580672834826240?s=19

Holy lord he looks good.

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