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iospace posted:what series is the off model stuff from? Turn on your monitor.
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GorfZaplen posted:Turn on your monitor. I'm phone posting 
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Mar 22, 2018 22:48
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I mean, I hear you, it's a lovely situation for those working on it, but if you wanted a nice and kind and empathetic board you probably wouldn't be at the "heaven is overcrowded" Something Awful Forums poking mild fun at anime catastrophes doesn't seem too terrible anyway
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Mar 22, 2018 22:51
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The Colonel posted:yeah this is what will fix the anime industry Nah. It (as in the general reaction online) might get some lovely people fired though. Fangz fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Mar 22, 2018 |
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Mar 22, 2018 22:52
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"Isn't the series in the middle of a tournament arc? If all of these problems are happening how are they going to animate that?" ...
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Mar 22, 2018 22:53
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Agronox posted:I mean, I hear you, it's a lovely situation for those working on it, but if you wanted a nice and kind and empathetic board you probably wouldn't be at the "heaven is overcrowded" Something Awful Forums it's certainly a mild thing that is very unlikely to pass harm along to those involved but also lmao gently caress this lovely reasoning
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Mar 22, 2018 22:53
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Yuri Harry Potter too good for this world.
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Mar 22, 2018 22:55
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kater posted:Yuri Harry Potter too good for this world. lwa aired last year though
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dogsicle posted:it's certainly a mild thing that is very unlikely to pass harm along to those involved but also lmao gently caress this lovely reasoning well, i don't think going to an anime discussion board on a comedy (?) site and saying "don't laugh at a show with terrible production values" is particularly wise either, but you do you
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Mar 22, 2018 23:00
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SAs only identity is dead
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Mar 22, 2018 23:03
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Cake Attack posted:SAs only identity is dead Also gay.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:09
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Suffering is the almost universal basis for comedy. Wishing more suffering is generally wrong, but the whole point is being able to better cope with a terrible situation by noticing the absurdity. Getting all morally superior about it doesn't help anyone, and it takes away the possibility of either positive change or some people managing to get some happiness from the ashes.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:10
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chumbler posted:Good comedy doesn't punch down. That's the whole thing about this - laughing at bad animation =/= laughing at the suffering animators.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:14
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I don't buy the argument that being on SA is license to be a jackass but I don't think laughing at this trainwreck is unsympathetic.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:15
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Failed productions are absolutely no laughing matter, and I wish the absolute best to the people involved with this, but I legit think what they've made here rules and looks Cool and Different. I still wish they could have made their intended vision though
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Mar 22, 2018 23:16
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Expect My Mom posted:Failed productions are absolutely no laughing matter, and I wish the absolute best to the people involved with this, but I legit think what they've made here rules and looks Cool and Different. On that note, I wish the director behind K and Handshakers actually got paired up with a decent writer - I absolutely love his insane directing style, with the colors and weird shots and so on But instead we got Handshakers, and I don't know if we'll ever see anything from that dude or that studio ever again. 
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Mar 22, 2018 23:18
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i don't think that's the director's style, the garish stuff in k and handshakers is studio-mandated to try and make their stuff stand out
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Mar 22, 2018 23:19
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I actually kinda like the one where the crowd in the stands behind them is just a flat blurry picture. It reminds me of how Bakemonogatari would have bystanders just be like stick figures.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:19
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Given the exploitative nature of this production, it would have been more tragic if the product ended up being good and vindicated their approach.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:20
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The Colonel posted:i don't think that's the director's style, the garish stuff in k and handshakers is studio-mandated to try and make their stuff stand out Huh. I was pretty sure it wasn't just that - I think I read a kvin article about... fake edit: I just found the article and I was wrong, it was different directors. But it does bring up Okubo's animation style, and how it makes for really interesting, strange shots...and how the studio just twisted and twisted until we got Hand Shakers. I guess what I'm getting at here is that I think that insane animation style was garish but also really interesting and I'm bummed we're not likely to see more of it. More weird shows, please. (although while I'm on the topic, Devilman Crybaby did a good job of filling this niche where it's just so strange and cool to look at, while also actually being good)
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Mar 22, 2018 23:23
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Fangz posted:Given the exploitative nature of this production, it would have been more tragic if the product ended up being good and vindicated their approach. that wouldn't have been more tragic, that would've been hosed up but at least the staff making the drat thing wouldn't feel like they've wasted their energy and time
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Mar 22, 2018 23:23
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Fangz posted:Given the exploitative nature of this production, it would have been more tragic if the product ended up being good and vindicated their approach. Sounds like there’s a story here.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:24
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The Colonel posted:that wouldn't have been more tragic, that would've been hosed up but at least the staff making the drat thing wouldn't feel like they've wasted their energy and time Ah, so the artists will enjoy the ~exposure~. Meanwhile the folks responsible for this will pocket the savings and go on to the next project.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:26
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Fangz posted:Ah, so the artists will enjoy the ~exposure~. Meanwhile the folks responsible for this will pocket the savings and go on to the next project. jesus christ
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Mar 22, 2018 23:27
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There is no ethical laughter under capitalism
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Mar 22, 2018 23:28
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I mean, yeah. Having a credit to their name would be better than having to disavow a trash fire that took up a chunk of their time.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:28
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Remember that part of this mess is not crediting animators
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Mar 22, 2018 23:30
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Guy Goodbody posted:I actually kinda like the one where the crowd in the stands behind them is just a flat blurry picture. It reminds me of how Bakemonogatari would have bystanders just be like stick figures. Also the CG stick figure extras in Kyousougiga, I thought those were kinda cool and fit the trippy atmosphere.
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Mar 22, 2018 23:48
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"This product turned out comically poorly" and "I feel bad and sympathetic for the people whose hard work was spoiled by little to no fault of their own" are perfectly capable of existing alongside each other IMO
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Mar 22, 2018 23:49
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Workers should punish lovely behaviour from management by doing awful work. If management doesn't do their part, workers should feel no investment in the success of the product. Disavowal and making laughably bad poo poo is right and proper. Maybe this sounds like nuts to you guys, but I guess you guys aren't unionised. 
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Mar 22, 2018 23:57
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we're only at galaxy brain so far, lets see if we can keep pushing and get this to universe brain
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Fangz posted:Workers should punish lovely behaviour from management by doing awful work. If management doesn't do their part, workers should feel no investment in the success of the product. Disavowal and making laughably bad poo poo is right and proper. Maybe this sounds like nuts to you guys, but I guess you guys aren't unionised. Anime isn't unionized either and we don't know any of the details about the production or its setup to say whether the animators trying an own on the studio is something that'd make sense. e: also a union protest would be to strike and let the project burn, what's happening here is the standard killing yourself to meet increasingly tight deadlines Motto fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Mar 23, 2018 00:13
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Nah it's people walking out of the project. The project is burning.
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Mar 23, 2018 00:21
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Unless you've got another source that's not what kVin says at all. https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/976829675447160832?s=19
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DisDisDis posted:idk what a matchcut is but if you mean the uhhhhh student council bits with the random conspicuously ignored poo poo in the background they were fantastic In film, a match cut is a cut from one shot to another where the two shots are matched by the action or subject and subject matter. For example, in a duel a shot can go from a long shot on both contestants via a cut to a medium closeup shot of one of the duellists. quote:Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey contains a famous example of a match cut.[4][5] After an ape discovers the use of bones as a tool and a weapon, he throws one triumphantly into the air. As the bone spins in the air, there is a match cut to a much more advanced tool: an orbiting satellite.[6] The match cut helps draw a connection between the two objects as exemplars of primitive and advanced tools respectively, and serves as a neat summary of humanity's technological advancement up to that point.[7] The satellite is unidentified in the film, but the novel makes it clear that it is an orbital weapon platform, thus linking with the use of the bone as a weapon. Anime uses this a lot, it's an incredibly basic technique, but Utena uses it like seven times a second and its usually done without any actual action. And it's good at that, but yeah.
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Mar 23, 2018 00:27
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GorfZaplen posted:Lmfao at this entire thing
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Motto posted:Unless you've got another source that's not what kVin says at all. That's what 'not acknowledging it as their work' means. See also the other thing about all the animation directors quitting.
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Endorph posted:ishihama directed from the new world, a story about weird teenage angst and society's flaws that expressed those things fairly well even if I don't even personally like it. He's also spent his entire career directing a ton of openings, including Bleach OP 13, occultic;nine, tokyo ravens,, and welcome to the NHK. I don't even like some of those OPs that much, but they show a clear interest and skill in stylization and visual language, which is something that fits Persona 5 to a T. there's a decent article outlining ishihama's style here he's a really talented dude, he's up there with omata with work that im always willing to check out just cause his name is on it
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Mar 23, 2018 00:33
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Fangz posted:That's what 'not acknowledging it as their work' means. See also the other thing about all the animation directors quitting. No it's not. You can disown a production but still work on it.
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Fangz posted:Ah, so the artists will enjoy the ~exposure~. Meanwhile the folks responsible for this will pocket the savings and go on to the next project. also your posts are real bad Endorph fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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