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Four White Mages? It’ll never work. I liked 8-bit Theater when I was a FF-loving teenager. I doubt I’d like it as much now, but the author’s making actual comics now so that’s cool.
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Yeah, I remember liking it but it's also been years so I should probably leave those memories alone. Either way the fact that he actually did finish it after 9 years is impressive in itself.
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Mar 24, 2018 10:47
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final fantasy xv is the journey of the hawaiian man in america 10/10 goty
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Mar 24, 2018 11:11
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'If you elves are as superior as you claim, why is your technology on par with humans despite the 9000 year head start?'
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Mar 24, 2018 11:14
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8-bit theater is edgy ironic shlock for dumb teenagers who think they're smarter than they are. Only idiots would ever like it or its author.
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Mar 24, 2018 14:24
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What is your favorite 8BT strip, Gologle
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Mar 24, 2018 15:15
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Obviously it would be either the beginning or the end, one signifies the comic is over and the other is before you realize it's bad.
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Mar 24, 2018 15:18
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You can't trust your teenage self's opinions on anything, not even Final Fantasy
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Mar 24, 2018 15:20
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Teenage me: Final Fantasy is awesome Old me: Final Fantasy is dumb but awesome
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Mar 24, 2018 15:50
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There's a bunch of cute jokes in 8-Bit Theater, that are still really funny to me even now. The Armoire of Invincibility and the origins of Goblin Punch (or really, any time Blue Magic comes up) are both standouts in my mind that haven't been mentioned yet. Something else I'll bring up is that, more than any other webcomic writer, I believe Brian Clevinger actually planned out his poo poo.There's clearly some teething and pacing problems at times, but you can especially see from the way he handled long-term callback jokes that he had plans and restraint that few others in the field did or do. The actual ending is iconic for that, but the one I always think of is actually how he handles the class changes; a throwaway flash-forward joke foreshadows the actual designs well before they actually happen, and there's also the joke of Thief 'stealing his class change from the future' coming back well afterward. I dunno, maybe I'm defending what doesn't matter. But 8-Bit Theater holds up drat well afterward, even if it's a little rough at times, speaking to the author's skill especially compared to his contemporaries. This is a field and era where Bob and George was a leader, remember.
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I went back and read parts of 8-bit theatre recently, and I enjoyed it more than most Final Fantasies.
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Mar 24, 2018 17:11
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Ciaphas posted:Damnit now I need to go re-read that. I bet it either aged badly or it was never good and I should keep my rosy glasses on 8-bit theater was never good.
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Mar 24, 2018 17:19
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8bt wasn't good but it was better than it had any right to be given when it was made
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Mar 24, 2018 17:35
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bloom posted:Teenage me: Final Fantasy is awesome 
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Mar 24, 2018 18:05
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Oxxidation posted:8bt wasn't good but it was better than it had any right to be given when it was made It was definitely one of the least bad sprite comics.
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Mar 24, 2018 19:43
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I've never read 8-bit theater. I can take a look now and tell you if it's good or not if you want
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Mar 24, 2018 19:49
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Nine years of practice on that dumb ol' sprite comic made Atomic Robo possible.
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Mar 24, 2018 19:59
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Ainsley McTree posted:I've never read 8-bit theater. I can take a look now and tell you if it's good or not if you want You could just read about the better jokes and skip the the rest of the comic. Some of the jokes are better as ideas than how the comic implements them. And the story is just an overly long retelling of final fantasy 1 with unnecessary expansion.
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Mar 24, 2018 20:11
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Bongo Bill posted:Nine years of practice on that dumb ol' sprite comic made Atomic Robo possible. (I don't actively dislike Atomic Robo but it's not my cup of tea at all so I'm just trolling really) (8BT did nail the ending joke so I give it lots of credit for that)
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Cleretic posted:And, for adjacency-to-FF comparisons... Nah the bonus boss fights in KH1 are pretty good. Kingdom Hearts isn't actually that unchallening a game, if you play on Proud at least. And KH2 has some of the best post game optional content of any action RPG ever made. Edit: Sprite comics owned. Dr Pepper fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Mar 24, 2018 |
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Mar 24, 2018 20:29
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bloom posted:Teenage me: Final Fantasy is awesome teenage me: squall is a piece of poo poo rear end in a top hat old me: noctis is like if squall wasn't a piece of poo poo rear end in a top hat
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loving lol at Kingdom Hearts being bad for postgame. It's one of the best parts of the series and where most of the best content is always stuck.
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Mar 24, 2018 21:08
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bloom posted:Teenage me: Final Fantasy is awesome 
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Mar 24, 2018 21:11
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lobster22221 posted:And the story is just an overly long retelling of final fantasy 1 with unnecessary expansion. Just like an official product!
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Mar 25, 2018 00:06
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I don't even give much of a poo poo about FF7 and even I got loving hype about beating Sephiroth in KH1/2. Those fights do a real good job of making you feel badass. I especially love Sephiroth immediately leading with his blade spam Scintilla bullshit and Sora just no-selling the entire thing via reaction command.
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Mar 25, 2018 00:07
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kirbysuperstar posted:Just like an official product! Oh snap!
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bloom posted:Teenage me: Final Fantasy is awesome Teenage me: Kingdom Hearts 2 would be better if the plot was less dumb Old me: Kingdom Hearts 1 would be better if the plot was more dumb
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Microcline posted:Teenage me: Kingdom Hearts 2 would be better if the plot was less dumb How much of that was teenage you not realising that they actually had plot stuff happen in the Game Boy game?
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I don't even give much of a poo poo about FF7 and even I got loving hype about beating Sephiroth in KH1/2. Those fights do a real good job of making you feel badass. I especially love Sephiroth immediately leading with his blade spam Scintilla bullshit and Sora just no-selling the entire thing via reaction command. Oop, here's your mistake: Conflating Sephiroth in 1 and 2. KH2 Sephiroth is hard, but he's not bullshit, has a story surrounding his appearance, and is yeah, generally a pretty decent fight. KH1 Sephiroth has more HP than the game is capable of rendering (about four bars' worth, I believe), can one-shot someone who isn't EXTREMELY prepared with a flick of the wrist, of course has no reaction commands to fend off his most dangerous moves because those didn't exist in KH1, and to me the cardinal sin, has a move that instakills everybody who doesn't have a specific ability equipped. That comes out partway through the fight, so you have to have made progress against him before hitting that wall. KH1 Sephiroth is a phenomenally badly-designed fight, but the other bonus bosses aren't a great bag either. Kurt Zisa's pretty well-designed I'll grant, but Phantom is a poorly-articulated gimmick that outstays its welcome*. I never fought Xemnas in KH1, but to my understanding he carried many of the same issues as Sephiroth. So yeah, I'll revise. KH1's bonus/postgame content is still mostly bad, but it doesn't carry over to the other games in the series so much. *Incidentally, this is why you shouldn't make your postgame or bonus challenges gimmick/puzzle bosses, because they will outstay their welcome.
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Gaz-L posted:How much of that was teenage you not realizing that they actually had plot stuff happen in the Game Boy game? The beauty of Kingdom Hearts is that the more you understand it the dumber it is. The challenge of JRPG writing is to be as outlandish as possible while maintaining a rigid (if not immediately apparent) internal consistency.
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Microcline posted:The beauty of Kingdom Hearts is that the more you understand it the dumber it is. I thought the challenge of JRPG writing was to outfashion Tetsuya Nomura? Or is that the post game challenge.
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Microcline posted:The beauty of Kingdom Hearts is that the more you understand it the dumber it is. I need to repost this again, don’t I?
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Mar 25, 2018 03:16
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that is a really bad article goddamn
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corn in the bible posted:that is a really bad article goddamn Yes, it's on Waypoint
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lobster22221 posted:I thought the challenge of JRPG writing was to outfashion Tetsuya Nomura? Or is that the post game challenge. You're confusing writing with character design. Under normal conditions the writers and character designers are only allowed to communicate through the marketing team. Under ideal conditions each character is subcontracted to a different guest artist, none of whom are told the plot or even genre of the game.
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Mar 25, 2018 03:55
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Nomura wishes he could design something as insane as Luso.
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Do the digital editions of the PS1 FFs go on sale on PSN? Kinda want to play IX but I can wait for a sale.
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I was sooooo bummed when I went looking for the FF15 arrange album where they use synths from LoM only to find that Legend of Mana ~Promise~ is Legend of Mana tracks using FF15 real instruments
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Chaotic Flame posted:Do the digital editions of the PS1 FFs go on sale on PSN? Kinda want to play IX but I can wait for a sale. Once in awhile. Usually they do a sale on Golden Week (end of April / early May) for Japanese games.
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Microcline posted:You're confusing writing with character design. Under normal conditions the writers and character designers are only allowed to communicate through the marketing team. Under ideal conditions each character is subcontracted to a different guest artist, none of whom are told the plot or even genre of the game. Ah, the Xenoblade 2 method.
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