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Tsipras is just mad because he heard the Tories get way more money from Putin than he does.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Tsipras is just mad because he heard the Tories get way more money from Putin than he does. 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Tsipras is just mad because he heard the Tories get way more money from Putin than he does. lol
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Ardennes posted:... but if anything Belgium is arguably one of the countries in Europe to actually see any real armed conflict. Besides me getting your point and more or less agreeing with it, I still think there is a certain irony in the above username+post combo.
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If the Germans invade again, we'll beat them like we beat them last time: by collaborating heavily and basically waiting a couple of years until things blow over.
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I know ill snitch on all ya all when the revolution/nazis/lizard people/robot uprising comes. Meanwhile, the french did a thing https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/...90%7Ctwterm%5E3
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Mar 23, 2018 19:25
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*dons balaclava and free wood offcut from the hardware store junk bin*
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Good. Build those barricades and take to the streets unlike the rest of us cowards that aren't actually brave enough to do so.
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Why is it something to be lauded when the minority takes the street with the attempt to undo what the majority voted for? It’s not like Macron or his party were secretive about their policy preferences.
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Ardennes posted:That or wait until they elect some populist party because the population lost any hope of anything changing. The Russians just have to wait and they will probably get most of what they want either way since mainstream political parties in Europe seem to be prefer to go extict than change. I think it would be pretty lovely of Belgium to offload their security responsibilities to the periphery countries without any recompense. Free riding like that breeds resentment which does not lead down good paths.
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GaussianCopula posted:Why is it something to be lauded when the minority takes the street with the attempt to undo what the majority voted for? Because we are your enemy.
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AHAHAHAHAHA the Italian right-wing coalitionRight now we (our elected MPs, rather) are voting for the presidents of the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate of the Republic. For the Senate, the right-wing coalition proposed Paolo Romani, former minister, elected in Forza Italia, and also convicted felon (for embezzling). M5S said they won't vote for Paolo Romani. As a response, Berlusconi said "no, the right-wing coalition candidate is still Paolo Romani". Before the second round of voting was due to begin, however, Lega leader Matteo Salvini came down to the press pool and said "Since M5S has said they will never vote for Paolo Romani, to break this stalemate Lega has decided to vote for Anna Maria Bernini" (also elected in Forza Italia, also former minister, not a convicted felon). According to Silvio Berlusconi "This is a hostile act on Salvini's part, the coalition is over." loving lol Now Lega and M5S are going to team up and form a government without FI and the other right-wing parties, watch
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Senor Dog posted:I think it would be pretty lovely of Belgium to offload their security responsibilities to the periphery countries without any recompense. Free riding like that breeds resentment which does not lead down good paths. Eh, who gives a poo poo really. With the possible exception of France and Britain all other Western European militaries are essentially for show (and so people can make money off of arms manufacture and deals) and small scale international deployment and incapable of taking any action without the Americans.
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Lega and m5s have a solid 50.02 % majority, likely to blow up if someone farts too loud.
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Ill have you know my country has a massive number of *check notes* 170 soldiers on afghanistan, whose marching up and down the square is the sole reason barbarians are kept at bay.
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suck my woke dick posted:*dons balaclava and free wood offcut from the hardware store junk bin* Sadly, someone did that last night. But it was fascists beating the hell out of left-wing students occupying a lecture hall in one university.
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Randarkman posted:Eh, who gives a poo poo really. With the possible exception of France and Britain all other Western European militaries are essentially for show (and so people can make money off of arms manufacture and deals) and small scale international deployment and incapable of taking any action without the Americans. We should just go create a class-structured EU. Germans can be the leadership caste. The French can be the warrior caste, the Poles the working caste, the Dutch the merchant caste, the greeks the untouchables etc etc.
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Mikl posted:AHAHAHAHAHA what could a m5s and lega government even look like, don't they have severely different opions on stuff?
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Namarrgon posted:We should just go create a class-structured EU. Germans can be the leadership caste. The French can be the warrior caste, the Poles the working caste, the Dutch the merchant caste, the greeks the untouchables etc etc. Solve the refugee crisis by settling the refugees on the border with Russia as military colonists.
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Randarkman posted:Solve the refugee crisis by settling the refugees on the border with Russia as military colonists. Are you suggesting these refugees just need some Room to Live?
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ChainsawCharlie posted:Ill have you know my country has a massive number of *check notes* 170 soldiers on afghanistan, whose marching up and down the square is the sole reason barbarians are kept at bay. We first proclaimed that our Einsatz is over, but just immediately joined another operation in the exact same place, with the exact same soldiers, just with a different name. And *checks Wikipedia* apparently we raised our strength back up from 850 to 980 in 2018, with plans to go as far up as about 1900 if the Bundestag agrees. Also, with max. 500 soldiers the UK has been providing 3 out of 5 deputy commanders for Operation Resolute Support, and with less than 1000, Germany has provided 3 out of 4 chiefs of staff. Showing a bit of bias there, America. 
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Orange Devil posted:Are you suggesting these refugees just need some Room to Live? Yes, I even bet there's a fun German compound word to describe this one. ChainsawCharlie posted:Ill have you know my country has a massive number of *check notes* 170 soldiers on afghanistan, whose marching up and down the square is the sole reason barbarians are kept at bay. Hey! I have a first hand account that proves that there is alot more to small countries' contribution in Afghanistan than marching up and down the square. I have evidence that whackin' it in the watchtower and controlling the stray dog problem also are essential services provided by the international contingent in Afghanistan. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 23, 2018 |
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Orange Devil posted:Are you suggesting these refugees just need some Room to Live?
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Sad about what happened in Trebes in France, I suppose it's been a while since the last terror attack.
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Wild Horses posted:what could a m5s and lega government even look like, don't they have severely different opions on stuff? They would be just swell because m5s is either fully devoid of ideas of its own or incredibly eager to embrace its right-wing inclinations to the fullest. Half-jokes aside, they do have points of agreement, and they will likely look to strike a deal that cements their dominant position in Italian politics at the expense of all other parties. Some speculate just a brief coalition to draft a new electoral law, likely with strongly majoritarian tendencies, and then dissolving parliament by year's end, meanwhile duking it out on the battlefield of permanent electoral campaign. Berlusconi is a walking corpse and the PD is in disarray. Whether the Italian left is able to regroup around a solid programme and electoral base, or proves as powerfully immune to lesson-learning as other social democratic parties in the rest of the west or America is anyone's guess.
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Randarkman posted:Eh, who gives a poo poo really. With the possible exception of France and Britain all other Western European militaries are essentially for show (and so people can make money off of arms manufacture and deals) and small scale international deployment and incapable of taking any action without the Americans. Uhm, I think you will find our Navy is perfectly capable of sending out one of its half billion euro frigates at a time to water cannon pirates in speedboats  Kassad posted:Sadly, someone did that last night. But it was fascists beating the hell out of left-wing students occupying a lecture hall in one university. oh i know, that’s why i posted it ps this wouldn’t have happened if the leftists had had guns 
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Mikl posted:AHAHAHAHAHA should've called it goddamn
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chaos continues to reign etc
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Mikl posted:AHAHAHAHAHA Is there a good reason for FI not to support the other proposed candidate (AM Bernini) from their own party?
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steinrokkan posted:Is there a good reason for FI not to support the other proposed candidate (AM Bernini) from their own party? Silvio being a huge baby and stamping his feet going "You do as I say! I'm still politically relevant!" So no. By the way, the Chamber and Senate presidents were elected. Chamber: Roberto Fico, M5S. Born 1974, graduate in Communication Science, second time elected in parliament, during the last government he was president of the Vigilance Commission on RAI (Italian state TV). He's the leader of the "orthodox" (most left-wing) faction inside M5S. Socially liberal, in favour of same-sex marriage and adoption by same-sex couples, and in favour of end-of-life provisions for terminally ill people. Senate: Maria Elisabetta Alberti Castellati, FI. Born 1946, she has a degree in law with specialization in Canon Law. First elected in parliament in 1994, she's super close to Silvio. Undersecretary to Health under Silvio's governments from 2004 to 2006, notably had the Ministry of Health hire her daughter as head secretary (no conflict of interest there, not at all). She's one of the people responsible for the many laws Silvio's government passed to solve his legal problems. Against same-sex marriage, against adoption by same-sex couples, she famously said "Diversity must be preserved but it cannot become identity". loving hell, this will be fun.
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Mikl posted:AHAHAHAHAHA
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Mikl posted:Roberto Fico Things were looking grim for Robert Fico when he resigned as Slovakian PM two days ago, but now look at him go! Congrats!
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incidentally gently caress the EU for not coming out against spain (again) over this beating people / jailing opposition politicians thing.
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jBrereton posted:incidentally gently caress the EU for not coming out against spain (again) over this beating people / jailing opposition politicians thing. Well, gently caress the spanish goverment,police,courts,politicians and civilian society even harder.the eu is maybe on the top 10 list to get hosed.as any case of police brutality and political repression ever beem brought to the ECHR?
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R. Mute posted:If the Germans invade again, we'll beat them like we beat them last time: by collaborating heavily and basically waiting a couple of years until things blow over. It's actually always been my understanding that the resistance in Belgium was one of the most active and effective ones in occupied Europe, especially regarding stuff like protecting the Jewish population and setting up escape routes for spies and downed pilots. I got most of that from "Het Belgisch labyrint" by Geert Van Istendael, I don't know exactly how reliable his sources are, but I did see it mostly confirmed in musea like the Dossinkazerne.
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steinrokkan posted:Things were looking grim for Robert Fico when he resigned as Slovakian PM two days ago, but now look at him go! Congrats! Well, I guess some gratefulness from his former italian employers could be expected, after all, that connection was what got him ousted. That and being an arrogant western slovak rear end in a top hat.
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persopolis posted:It's actually always been my understanding that the resistance in Belgium was one of the most active and effective ones in occupied Europe, especially regarding stuff like protecting the Jewish population and setting up escape routes for spies and downed pilots. I got most of that from "Het Belgisch labyrint" by Geert Van Istendael, I don't know exactly how reliable his sources are, but I did see it mostly confirmed in musea like the Dossinkazerne. But at the same time, collaboration was also rife in Belgian society. You had the Flemish movement in Flanders with the VNV and Verdinaso, the straight fascists of DeVlag, Rex in Wallonia. The Catholic church and their political arm the Katholieke Blok was also heavily implied, with a bunch of village priests actively recruiting for the Flemish Legion. A lot of government agencies also got in on the action - most notably the police in cities like Antwerp. The capitalist class was also more than willing to work with their occupiers, fearing a repeat of the deindustrialisation of Belgium during the WOI and also because capitalists suck. Hell, even Leopold III got in on the action. And that's not even mentioning small scale collaboration, like Irma Laplasse. So yeah, definitely a mixed bag. The public knowledge of this history is also heavily influenced by past and present political considerations. So yeah. R. Mute fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 24, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/DLF/status/977860710725308417 Love that Germany is now officially involved in the defense of the Spanish Nation.
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/DLF/status/977860710725308417
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Grenztrottel don't understand they could just have had a Karl VIII of Germany and Spain, sad!
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