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Star Citizer: Complaining about bugs is like harassing your unborn son about chores e: first post on SA, can anyone spot me taxxe until I figure out how to post a second image in a post? Grubby Hobo fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Mar 25, 2018 |
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https://i.imgur.com/QnpsdmB.gifv You are the baby catte. Bootcha fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Mar 25, 2018 |
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Mar 25, 2018 04:05
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Here's some Kipling, slightly abridged: A Citizen's Song To the Heavens above us O look and behold The Roberts that love us All harnessed in gold! What chariots, what jpegs For us shall abide While the Stars in their courses Get calculated client-side! Sandi quakes in her throes And we wonder why! But the wooden actress knows When the editor is nigh; And, attuned since Creation To marketing flair She thrills in her station (That's him in the wheelchair). The goons have arisen, And Skadden's unbound - Chris is headed to prison, Hands wavin' around. No TOS withstands 'em, Their fury will last, Till the Smart that commands 'em Stops blogging at last. Through mini-games unproven And bugs beyond thought, Our delusion is woven, Our jpegs are bought. Yet they that prepare it, Whose Nature we share, Get doxxed without mercy and Photoshopped to a bear. Though griefers o'ertake us We'll be not afraid. The slider can't make us 'Cause it hasn't been made. Nor yet beyond dogfights Or dreams shall we fall - You know nothing of space flight, No, nothing at all! Then, doubt not, ye faithful - Chris Roberts is King - Up, heart, and be cheerful, And lustily sing: - What chariots, what jpegs For us shall abide While the Stars in their courses Get calculated client-side!
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Mar 25, 2018 04:06
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Thank you, O wizard of video goodness.
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Mar 25, 2018 04:07
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Cao Ni Ma posted:So things Im seeing. Quarterly patches are a marketing ploy that they are already trying to exploit, not that there is a while lot of content in the patch or that the real test is that its sustainable in the long run. FFXIV has had quarterly patches now since its rerelease and theyve had to cut content from them through the years because the staff was burning out and they are still a million times more robust than what CIG is pushing out. Hell, the in between patch they come up with now is more robust than 3.1 Yeah, I hadn't thought about it in that sense but FF14 is a great example; consistent major patches every 3 months or so, a sub-release about halfway between, all while working towards the next expansion pack on a consistent 2 year cycle (and those expansions are effectively full 60 hour RPGs themselves if you just plow through them as fast as possible). And like you said, to maintain that kind of schedule they have had to scale back the size of the patch releases over time both because of staff workload as well as trying to avoid oversaturation of specific content types too; they literally released 17 full length dungeons alone between 2.1 and the 2.55 release leading up to their first expansion. Hell, they bit off so much more than they could chew with Heavensward that the 3.1 patch came 5 months later instead of 3 so they could recover. Keeping up a schedule like that is difficult for a well run team with full resources at their disposal, an existing functional framework and consistent sustained monthly revenue; CIG has no hope of accomplishing a fraction of that.
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Mar 25, 2018 04:11
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doingitwrong posted:Here are some of the things I love about the poster. My personal favorite is "Seminar". Sounds more like an amway or timeshare thing, or lile a cult thing if you wanna go crazy with it. One things for sure, its not a meet(ing) and greet, nor a workshop, a presentation, a conference, a gathering, a "con", an event, etc. But at least you know its for GAMERS!
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Mar 25, 2018 04:30
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1999172 registered accounts 500k+ backer accounts So how's the Alpha 3.2 Features Survey going? Total votes: 17095 
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Mar 25, 2018 04:36
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Am I wrong in reading that Lando is sort of the one guy who really does want to make a game, is earnest about it, but has to deal with the fact it got turned into a scam but is in too deep to get out?
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Mar 25, 2018 04:37
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Glassdoor 13th Dec 2017: I worked at Cloud Imperium Games full-time (Less than a year) Pros Some of my colleagues were really the best people in the world, I learned so much from them and it was really pleasure to work at Cloud Imperium Games / Foundry 42 in the beginning, I felt like the luckiest person in the world. I think if the project finally does come to fruition I will be proud to have Cloud Imperium Games / Foundry 42 on my CV and still love explaining the project to friends and strangers in the real world, although I would advise them against backing at this stage. Show Less Cons I don't like being critical about past employers, but after the recent round of layoffs just before 3.0 was released I felt we couldn't provide the service customers and backers of this project expected from us. So many support colleagues from my department were culled that we ended up automating the support system and basically ignoring everyone except urgent legal matters for several weeks / months. That doesn't seem like something a company based on backer trust should be doing, and it's not why I was so desperate to join all those years ago and be part of this amazing project. I couldn't believe in the product anymore and so felt I also had no choice but to leave. The incredible stress without any thanks or extra renumeration that fell on the remaining staff at such a critical time also didn't help me feel welcome. I feel so bad for letting my remaining colleagues down, but I just couldn't handle the workload anymore and keep my sanity. Show Less Advice to Management Hire staff to actually fulfil their contractual obligations or ask to change their contract voluntarily, don't expect customer service representatives to be in-house lawyers or even QA game testers. I had no place being asked to route networking cables like CAT5 and should have been given appropriate training (I still don't know what it is!). Please please please hire some experienced managers, the nepotism is insane and slowly consuming the project.
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Mar 25, 2018 04:39
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Grubby Hobo posted:Star Citizer: Complaining about bugs is like harassing your unborn son about chores Except the baby is 3 years overdue and the mother is screaming at you to feed her more kale and your running out of money giving her more and more luxuries becauae she tells you its to soothe her hormones and help the baby grow. Then when youre flat broke 4 years later and the mother has turned into a slightly less disfigured shape as Ben Lesnick, you realize shes just a bloated corpse
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Mar 25, 2018 04:40
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SomethingJones posted:Glassdoor 13th Dec 2017: Tldr; keep doing what you're doing
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Mar 25, 2018 04:43
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Quavers posted:1999172 registered accounts Less than 1 percent of registered accounts Less than 4 percent of backer accounts What a vibrant, living community!
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Mar 25, 2018 04:44
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Here's a couple from mid-2017: "Toxic Work Place" Former Employee - Machinist in Playa del Rey, CA (US) Doesn't Recommend Negative Outlook CEO I worked at Cloud Imperium Games full-time (Less than a year) Pros You'll get fired if you look at someone the wrong way. Cons You'll get fired if you look at someone the wrong way, long hours, and bad lighting. And you get yelled at for things out of your control. 14 Mar 2017 Helpful (8) "Pretty toxic environment to be honest" Former Employee - Anonymous Employee Doesn't Recommend CEO I worked at Cloud Imperium Games full-time Pros Cool project. Talented people. Tasty snacks. Cons management is scattered and confused. Advice to Management put forth realistic goals for your devs. and dont kill them in the process
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Mar 25, 2018 04:47
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quote:don't expect customer service representatives to be in-house lawyers Yet more proof that Skadden is quaking in their boots.
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Mar 25, 2018 04:52
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SomethingJones posted:"Toxic Work Place" That place is lit like an actual prison block.
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Mar 25, 2018 05:26
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Then when youre flat broke 4 years later and the mother has turned into a slightly less disfigured shape as Ben Lesnick, you realize shes just a bloated corpse I've been playing too much bloodborne because this sounds like the intro cutscene to a boss fight
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Mar 25, 2018 05:33
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Mar 25, 2018 06:31
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iospace posted:Am I wrong in reading that Lando is sort of the one guy who really does want to make a game, is earnest about it, but has to deal with the fact it got turned into a scam but is in too deep to get out? You're wrong, Lando is a mercenary that will say whatever the gently caress you pay him to say for as long as the money lasts. He doesn't really give a poo poo about the game itself.
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Mar 25, 2018 06:39
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iospace posted:Am I wrong in reading that Lando is sort of the one guy who really does want to make a game, is earnest about it, but has to deal with the fact it got turned into a scam but is in too deep to get out? Lando is the guy that made fan videos, and then they hired him full-time He also doesn't seem to be able to hold a job for more than a year, so this is probably the closest he's had to a big boy adult job Makes sense why he has gone in and drank the koolaid and asked for more
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Mar 25, 2018 06:41
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Dysfunctional companies are like dying bodies of water; the scum rises to the top and chokes out the oxygen, killing the healthy plants.
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Mar 25, 2018 06:49
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XK posted:That place is lit like an actual prison block. They hired a new lighting guy in Feb, he'll have that sorted in no time. Oh no wait
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Mar 25, 2018 07:38
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This man is a loving game development expert, the absolute best course of action is to completely ignore all of the massive red flags and continue on regardless. Stay the course. Steady as she goes.
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Mar 25, 2018 07:43
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They fixed 15,000 bugs last year and still released a pile of festering poo poo, no point worrying about bugs now. Throw yourself another grand in samfreez, in fact make it two, it's early days
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Mar 25, 2018 07:46
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Didn't samfreez used to post here, or am I mixing him up with someone else?
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Mar 25, 2018 08:05
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That guy is compelled by the 2 grand he's already sunk into this scam to defend it every chance he gets. Not doing so would jeopardize his  investmentIt's like bitcoiners who try and stop people from selling.
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Mar 25, 2018 08:15
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Bootcha posted:Let's look: quote:Recent article about Star Citizen's 3.1 patch It's bizarre to me despite the long development and issues raised over CIG's business practices there still appears to be cultists who don't care about those problems, and are still enamored with Robert's original pitch and are willing to still give him money for an unfinished game. If CIG is still pulling in $5 million year over year then there's no way to tell when the scheme will end. The die-hards appear to be willing to wait and accept whatever BS reasoning Roberts feeds them for the delays. And it's possible new and naive Citizens will keep getting ensnared into buying Robert's jpgs as long as Roberts doles out incremental patches, whether working or not. But the Crytek lawsuit is definitely a critical event that could make or break CIG's plans going forward.
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Mar 25, 2018 08:19
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tuo posted:Didn't samfreez used to post here, or am I mixing him up with someone else? samfreez is MoMA
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Mar 25, 2018 08:24
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SomethingJones posted:Glassdoor 13th Dec 2017: 
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Mar 25, 2018 08:37
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Mar 25, 2018 09:10
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So uh, why aren't these nerds playing WoW and RPing in Goldshire or something? Isn't that what they're trying to do?
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Mar 25, 2018 09:26
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Meridian posted:So uh, why aren't these nerds playing WoW and RPing in Goldshire or something? Isn't that what they're trying to do? If someone needs to volunteer as the barmaid trapped in Goldshire's basement so they can be rescued, Beet volunteers.
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Mar 25, 2018 09:46
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nnnotime posted:But the Crytek lawsuit is definitely a critical event that could make or break CIG's plans going forward. I dunno man, according to sensei the Crytek thing is not the jesus lawsuit anymore, wait for the next jesus ELE that we will be talking about for decades.
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Mar 25, 2018 11:02
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Daztek posted:samfreez is MoMA He's only a quarter of MoMA, going by that piddling 2k pledge.
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Mar 25, 2018 12:22
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SomethingJones posted:This man is a loving game development expert, the absolute best course of action is to completely ignore all of the massive red flags and continue on regardless. "drat, the torpedos!"
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Mar 25, 2018 12:25
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MedicineHut posted:I dunno man, according to sensei the Crytek thing is not the jesus lawsuit anymore, wait for the next jesus ELE that we will be talking about for decades. Derek says a lot of things, and refuses to explain any of it. I wouldn't pay it much mind.
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Mar 25, 2018 12:27
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lol just met a guy who worked on SC and literally quit because his conscience wouldn't allow him to continue to take a paycheck from marks
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Mar 25, 2018 12:35
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Alan Smithee posted:lol just met a guy who worked on SC and literally quit because his conscience wouldn't allow him to continue to take a paycheck from marks are unicorns cool in person
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Mar 25, 2018 12:38
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Alan Smithee posted:lol just met a guy who worked on SC and literally quit because his conscience wouldn't allow him to continue to take a paycheck from marks Oh, is that who's in charge of pay roll?
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Mar 25, 2018 12:42
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Wise Learned Man posted:are unicorns cool in person eat my poo poo bitch
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Mr.Tophat posted:Oh, is that who's in charge of pay roll? you really gonna pedant me in here gently caress off see you in the trump thread I guess
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