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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Everywhere is a good place for activism

For example, I did some activism this morning by changing all the stations on the gym TVs off of fox news and hiding the remote

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Pikavangelist
Nov 9, 2016

There is no God but Arceus
And Pikachu is His prophet



Epic High Five posted:

Everywhere is a good place for activism

For example, I did some activism this morning by changing all the stations on the gym TVs off of fox news and hiding the remote

i can get behind that

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

GunnerJ posted:

This one bothers me way more than the others:

https://twitter.com/petermorency/status/977925839160594433

You know, it doesn't actually have to mean anything different than not having a title and fiduciary responsibilities. If you're into DSA for the cause then you can keep doing a lot of what you've been doing, or devote that effort to other work in the chapter. Unless you were in it for the title...

In some chapters, especially the larger ones, access to the Steering Committee seems to be a big deal whether or not you can get the chapter behind an effort. But otherwise that feels spot on and why this is such a bad look. Organizers should always be looking to trade responsibilities with others and looking for replacements, that's what builds institutional memory and protects against burnout.

If it wasn't such a meltdown or politically divisive election it might have been that he could take a mentorship/support role.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Pikavangelist posted:

i can get behind that

i made this for you when squizzle didn't and I think you missed it

Captain Queernabs
Dec 25, 2005

Fig. 1: bonehorse
Pillbug
online has informed me that the people who are mad about everything are mad that national is hiring a fundraiser staff person. Normal

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



the DSA should hold a competition with a prize for "most mad online" and then kick out everybody who voluntarily participates

Pikavangelist
Nov 9, 2016

There is no God but Arceus
And Pikachu is His prophet



Epic High Five posted:

i made this for you when squizzle didn't and I think you missed it



the piss pokemon is real

(thanks)

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Captain Queernabs posted:

online has informed me that the people who are mad about everything are mad that national is hiring a fundraiser staff person. Normal

I'm not sure if this is true and actually a thing, but if anyone is upset about National hiring staff they should be fired into the sun.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

In some chapters, especially the larger ones, access to the Steering Committee seems to be a big deal whether or not you can get the chapter behind an effort. But otherwise that feels spot on and why this is such a bad look. Organizers should always be looking to trade responsibilities with others and looking for replacements, that's what builds institutional memory and protects against burnout.

If it wasn't such a meltdown or politically divisive election it might have been that he could take a mentorship/support role.

I just keep thinking about the phrase "figure out what it means" to be R&F. Like he's lost in the wilderness now that he doesn't have a title and the power/responsibilities of office. Bewildered by the prospect of being a DSA pleb. Poor thing! :smith:

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Yeah if you literally can't conceive of not being in power, you should not be in power.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

GunnerJ posted:

This one bothers me way more than the others:

https://twitter.com/petermorency/status/977925839160594433

You know, it doesn't actually have to mean anything different than not having a title and fiduciary responsibilities. If you're into DSA for the cause then you can keep doing a lot of what you've been doing, or devote that effort to other work in the chapter. Unless you were in it for the title...

i think you're misinterpreting what he's saying (or he is not clear in his tweet, which you know... never happens), as co-chair the only thing he had time to do was administrative tasks, and now he's trying to figure out what kind of work he wants to do within the org that's not administrative

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Karl Barks posted:

i think you're misinterpreting what he's saying (or he is not clear in his tweet, which you know... never happens), as co-chair the only thing he had time to do was administrative tasks, and now he's trying to figure out what kind of work he wants to do within the org that's not administrative

If that's what he really means, cool, but the context is being super mad at losing an election. Which makes this sound like the prospect of not being in power is an unimaginable calamity for him.

surfacelevelspeck
Oct 1, 2008

communism's sleepiest soldier

lmao that these chapters can't get their poo poo together and yet my chapter, Literally Cop DSA, has recruited elected officials, begun taking over two local parties, and helped pass historic legislation.

i mean c'mon y'all what the gently caress

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
careerism is bad thank’s

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Syndlig posted:

lmao that these chapters can't get their poo poo together and yet my chapter, Literally Cop DSA, has recruited elected officials, begun taking over two local parties, and helped pass historic legislation.

i mean c'mon y'all what the gently caress

Was going to say something about size leading to a chapter being big enough for internal politics to take up too much time but Austin's got 750 members and Boston's got 1100, which puts them in a similar league.

GoluboiOgon
Aug 19, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Syndlig posted:

lmao that these chapters can't get their poo poo together and yet my chapter, Literally Cop DSA, has recruited elected officials, begun taking over two local parties, and helped pass historic legislation.

i mean c'mon y'all what the gently caress

i think the moral is always be purging

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Syndlig posted:

lmao that these chapters can't get their poo poo together and yet my chapter, Literally Cop DSA, has recruited elected officials, begun taking over two local parties, and helped pass historic legislation.

i mean c'mon y'all what the gently caress
well cops are good at discipline after all

surfacelevelspeck
Oct 1, 2008

communism's sleepiest soldier

GunnerJ posted:

Was going to say something about size leading to a chapter being big enough for internal politics to take up too much time but Austin's got 750 members and Boston's got 1100, which puts them in a similar league.

we've got like 900 members now, it's insane. and insanely good.

also wilco dsa, the tiny branch of austin i'm a part of, hit double-digit membership, so i'm pretty stoked about that too!

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Syndlig posted:

lmao that these chapters can't get their poo poo together and yet my chapter, Literally Cop DSA, has recruited elected officials, begun taking over two local parties, and helped pass historic legislation.

i mean c'mon y'all what the gently caress

I'm proud to carry the Fetonte tradition of get 'er done.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Syndlig posted:

we've got like 900 members now, it's insane. and insanely good.

also wilco dsa, the tiny branch of austin i'm a part of, hit double-digit membership, so i'm pretty stoked about that too!

Yeah congrats! I was actually wondering the other day if size is what leads to that kind of junk. Since as much as I gush about the dynamics of my chapter, it's still just a blip at 140 members so we're incredibly tiny and still conduct half our committee meetings at people's houses.

I hope that guy who seems to be melting down about SC stuff really meant it as 'Now I can do a lot more for the org that isn't clerical babysitting' but that completely isn't how I read it. From someone outside of things it looks like he's half threatening to take his ball home, but doing it with a dramatic pause to let people beg him to stay.

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
140 is tiny? dang, we've just barely reached 70 and of that really only 30 have been active beyond just a few meetings. But it's definitely possible to have an outsized impact even at that size if you are very active and very organized, which we've managed to be despite some hiccups.

Syndlig posted:

also wilco dsa, the tiny branch of austin i'm a part of, hit double-digit membership, so i'm pretty stoked about that too!

:hellyeah:

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Syndlig posted:

lmao that these chapters can't get their poo poo together and yet my chapter, Literally Cop DSA, has recruited elected officials, begun taking over two local parties, and helped pass historic legislation.

i mean c'mon y'all what the gently caress

all locals are Literally Cop DSA

it's just that most are in denial and that is very counterproductive :colbert:

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Coolness Averted posted:

Yeah congrats! I was actually wondering the other day if size is what leads to that kind of junk. Since as much as I gush about the dynamics of my chapter, it's still just a blip at 140 members so we're incredibly tiny and still conduct half our committee meetings at people's houses.

Most of the working group invites I get on facebook are at people's houses, I don't think this changes unless it's a big event like a M4A canvassing meet or whatever

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

GunnerJ posted:

This one bothers me way more than the others:

https://twitter.com/petermorency/status/977925839160594433

You know, it doesn't actually have to mean anything different than not having a title and fiduciary responsibilities. If you're into DSA for the cause then you can keep doing a lot of what you've been doing, or devote that effort to other work in the chapter. Unless you were in it for the title...

Some extremely normal recruiting for the Fredericksburg chapter ITT.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Internet Explorer posted:

I'm sure it will take them some time to update the official platform and get it posted. I think we're doing a press release as well. I'll post both if/when I get them.

A video of the "Denver County Dems become DemSocs" moment - https://twitter.com/DSAdenver/status/978009464883232770

Dekko
May 23, 2007

Internet Explorer posted:

A video of the "Denver County Dems become DemSocs" moment - https://twitter.com/DSAdenver/status/978009464883232770

So whats going on here? Is this a case of 'Democrats in Denver are socialists' or 'enough DSA types attended the meeting to pass the resolution' or 'a lot of libs thinking democracy and The Many sounds nice so they unwittingly put End Capitalism on the platform' or what?

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Dekko posted:

So whats going on here? Is this a case of 'Democrats in Denver are socialists' or 'enough DSA types attended the meeting to pass the resolution' or 'a lot of libs thinking democracy and The Many sounds nice so they unwittingly put End Capitalism on the platform' or what?

Likely the last bit. But it's nice to know that the words "democratically owned and controlled economy" isn't enough to scare away the liberals. Essentially, the concept of "yeah, far too small of a group has power" is one that people agree with and if we can start with that, we may have some hope. The resolution was originally going to be written in a much more traditionally "booksmart Socialist" way, but we all agreed with trying to distill it down to something that the average person could associate with. While gathering signatures I had one or two people balk at the idea, but all in all we gathered ~150 signatures in about an hour and it passed by an overwhelming margin. It's not binding and it doesn't mean much, but it's an insight into what people are thinking an offers a glimmer of hope.

At least that's my take on it.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


should have just ended it at "not to make profits", instead of "not to make profits for the few" imo

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

sorry i know this is from a few pages ago but i cannot stop laughing about the loving furry con guy

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

"hmm where should we build socialism, gang?"

*sees black man being murdered by cops*

*sees crushing poverty in immigrant communities*

*sees folks ground into dust by the gig economy*

"hey you know what i heard anthrocon is gonna be here like next week"

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


drake_no.jpg outreach to the attendees of anthrocon
drake_yes.jpg outreach to the taxi/uber, hotel, restaurant, bar workers who make anthrocon possible

but seriously, have a thing for service worker appreciation for anthrocon attendees to participate in and pass out information on upcoming pro-worker legislation/actions

Ruzihm has issued a correction as of 20:53 on Mar 26, 2018

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

That is a much better idea honestly

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Furry liberation will be a natural consequence of fully automated luxury gay space communism, but it's not high on the list of priorities, y'know?

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Ruzihm posted:

drake_no.jpg outreach to the attendees of anthrocon
drake_yes.jpg outreach to the taxi/uber, hotel, restaurant, bar workers who make anthrocon possible

this is extremely good

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I think the properly organized group would find out whoever is a furry in their bunch and pay their way in to distribute literature and brainwash honest decent folk into the cult of godless communism, since they were probably going anyway

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Epic High Five posted:

I think the properly organized group would find out whoever is a furry in their bunch and pay their way in to distribute literature and brainwash honest decent folk into the cult of godless communism, since they were probably going anyway

it's not that hard, there are hordes of angry leftist furries, and a lot of them are probably in DSA. the fur is shed from inside the caucus

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



RiotGearEpsilon posted:

it's not that hard, there are hordes of angry leftist furries, and a lot of them are probably in DSA. the fur is shed from inside the caucus

a furry goes to my gym, and when I see him sometimes he likes to tell me about how that one nazi neo-confederate fox keeps getting beat the gently caress up by other furries

Pikavangelist
Nov 9, 2016

There is no God but Arceus
And Pikachu is His prophet



Epic High Five posted:

a furry goes to my gym, and when I see him sometimes he likes to tell me about how that one nazi neo-confederate fox keeps getting beat the gently caress up by other furries

how much does it cost to get nazi blood out of a fursuit, i wonder

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Why would you want to?

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Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Halloween Jack posted:

Why would you want to?

so the next nazi doesnt expect it duh

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