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Chow-Pom reppin:  He's a rescue, so no specialty breed manipulation on our part. Very sweet, but energetic dog; he easily has one of the best temperaments of a dog I've ever seen, to the point I'm getting him certified as a therapy dog. Kids love him. We took him to an indoor trunk or treat and he loved all the pets and head scratches. E: Oh, I think I need to post a pic of a cat, too. Our cat is also a rescue, though we got him when he was a kitten. Catte Butte lookin like a cowe butte: 
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Our puppy Hazel recently figured out she can climb into the middle section of the cat tower, and then climb up to the top through an internal opening between the two:
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Mar 26, 2018 16:30
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If more people were content with mutts, "pure breeds" wouldn't be problem, but lots of people treat dogs as a fashion statement or want a certain breed for aesthetic reasons so the same dogs keep getting inbred and the genetic mutations are almost impossible to get rid of now. Some friends of ours got a pair of "pure bred" golden retrievers and within a year both of them needed hip surgery to the tune of $6k. They knew going into it that there might be problems, but they had to have that certain breed. I don't get it, go to a shelter a get a mutt that's genetically diverse and you won't have these problems.
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Mar 26, 2018 17:40
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I don't get it either. I want a Rhodesian, but not gonna complain if its mixed.
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Mar 26, 2018 17:48
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My fiance's family has had 3 goldens in the past ~15 years. Every single one has died from cancer or heart defects before the age of 8 They're wonderful dogs, but they died so soon, it's tragic
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Mar 26, 2018 17:59
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The Door Frame posted:My fiance's family has had 3 goldens in the past ~15 years. Every single one has died from cancer or heart defects before the age of 8 It can go both ways, though. Personally we had a mini dachshund who lived to 18, and my in laws just had to put their German short hair pointer down last week and she was 14. Pure bred doesnt automatically mean health issues, it's a breeder issue usually. Our other two dogs are both purebred, but both were also rescues and not a super common breed (Treeing Walker Coonhound.) Also LA is awesome, losers.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:05
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Applebees Appetizer posted:If more people were content with mutts, "pure breeds" wouldn't be problem, but lots of people treat dogs as a fashion statement or want a certain breed for aesthetic reasons so the same dogs keep getting inbred and the genetic mutations are almost impossible to get rid of now. The experience I detailed shows the same thing happens with Designer and Modern Recreation breeds. Basically people inbreed to maintain a certain look which is the whole problem. My Pug is a good little guy and was bought by someone as a fashion accessory. Now usually a male Pug weights in between 12-15 lbs. Our one weights in at 30lb so he is not sitting in a little bag to be carried around Boston. So he ended up being neglected and coming to the rescue where we took him in since he had some behavioral issues due to not being socialised or any kind of obedience training done. I started doing this because I wanted to help those who couldn't help themselves but it has just opened my eyes to how lovely people really can be and a better understanding of my own faults.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:16
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Applebees Appetizer posted:If more people were content with mutts, "pure breeds" wouldn't be problem, but lots of people treat dogs as a fashion statement or want a certain breed for aesthetic reasons so the same dogs keep getting inbred and the genetic mutations are almost impossible to get rid of now. I only got 10 years out of my first high-end pure breed lab. I only got 7 years out of my second high-end pure breed lab. My current dog is a rescue mutt that I hope will just live a stupid-long life. Mutts seem to be unkillable, while pure breeds seem super fragile and prone to weird and bad problems. At least that's my experience. My stupid mutt:
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Mar 26, 2018 18:36
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iwentdoodie posted:It can go both ways, though. It does, but it's definitely leaning more the other way lately imo. Most times when i hear people talk about their pure bred dog they talk about the insane vet bills after that.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:37
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Larrymer posted:You're really trying to bait me here. My midwestern rust belt state is better than yours. The UP is the best part of Michigan. LA was the worst part of California that we visited. Also mutts are the best dogs.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:38
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Rhyno posted:The UP is the best part of Michigan. LA was the worst part of California that we visited. That's because everyone hits the same dumb tourist poo poo in LA. It's an awesome city with so much to do, see and experience that it's honestly overwhelming. Plus you skipped out on the best goddamn restaurant.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:56
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iwentdoodie posted:It can go both ways, though. In general, the bigger the dog, the shorter the life. Small dogs live forever. LA sucks, winners.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:57
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iwentdoodie posted:That's because everyone hits the same dumb tourist poo poo in LA. It's an awesome city with so much to do, see and experience that it's honestly overwhelming. If not for the tourist poo poo nobody would visit that place.
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Mar 26, 2018 18:57
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If all breeders had health and genetic screening as the top priority (along with temperament for breeds that despite their original use are now primarily sold as pets) then purebred would have the advantage in all instances. This excludes breeds that are just poorly designed. In many cases, the expensive breeders DO that, but people being people, will hunt out the budget breeder and then wonder of wonders, have a bad experience. Or some breeders are shady, and convince buyers that they perform screening, but don't really despite charging the premium price. The kennel clubs don't police or guarantee anything, and as has been pointed out, actively promoted a continuation of unhealthy traits in some breeds. If you do dog breeding the "right" way, in few instances is there any money in it.... It's another expensive hobby. That being said, by all means adopt a mutt but for crissakes get it spayed/neutered! Hybrid vigor is bullshit and the world doesn't need any more mixed up dogs than what already keep popping out.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:06
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Rhyno posted:If not for the tourist poo poo nobody would visit that place. Yes, rhyno, no one enjoys balmy weather, beaches and beautiful scenery unless there's a Disney theme park nearby.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:10
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iwentdoodie posted:Yes, rhyno, no one enjoys balmy weather, beaches and beautiful scenery unless there's a Disney theme park nearby. You take me too seriously. And also there's beaches on that entire state that you can visit without having to go to LA.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:17
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iwentdoodie posted:That's because everyone hits the same dumb tourist poo poo in LA. It's an awesome city with so much to do, see and experience that it's honestly overwhelming. We’ve spent most of our time in West Hollywood and santanmonica so lol
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Mar 26, 2018 19:23
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iwentdoodie posted:Yes, rhyno, no one enjoys balmy weather, beaches and beautiful scenery unless there's a Disney theme park nearby. Sorry, I tried to visit LA yesterday when you guys started talking about it but I'm still stuck in tomorrow's rush hour traffic 20 miles outside of the city limits.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:33
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iwentdoodie posted:Yes, rhyno, no one enjoys balmy weather, beaches and beautiful scenery unless there's a Disney theme park nearby. I love it when people say Tampa sucks too. No poo poo, if all you did was hang around Tampa you're an idiot, the coast is 20 minutes away. The only thing going for Tampa is maybe Ybor City but even that's a stretch.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:43
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Sorry, I tried to visit LA yesterday when you guys started talking about it but I'm still stuck in tomorrow's rush hour traffic 20 miles outside of the city limits. Pretty much this. Never been to LA, but I did spend a month in the Bay Area between 2013-15 when I worked for HP. Only way you could sell me on moving there is if I was independently wealthy or could telecommute/walk or bike to work.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:45
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Applebees Appetizer posted:I love it when people say Tampa sucks too. No poo poo, if all you did was hang around Tampa you're an idiot, the coast is 20 minutes away. The only thing going for Tampa is maybe Ybor City but even that's a stretch. Sounds like not Tampa is ok and Tampa does suck. 
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Mar 26, 2018 19:49
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Rhyno posted:The UP is the best part of Michigan. Truth on both points. I miss LSPR.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:12
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Larrymer posted:Sounds like not Tampa is ok and Tampa does suck. Yeah basically everywhere in the Tampa Bay region is cool besides Tampa if that makes sense
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Mar 26, 2018 21:04
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Sorry, I tried to visit LA yesterday when you guys started talking about it but I'm still stuck in tomorrow's rush hour traffic 20 miles outside of the city limits. I swear it seems like Phoenix traffic is starting to creep up on it. Not in terms of rush hour, perhaps, but more in that now there's a decent chance of heavy slowdowns in offpeak hours too.
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Yay, three phone screenings, some of which were extremely promising, and zero going to even "talking to anyone technically competent". Oh well, not like I'm terribly underemployed or anything. Time to shotgun the resume at any other job in the area even remotely in my field.
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Mar 26, 2018 21:21
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Yeah basically everywhere in the Tampa Bay region is cool besides Tampa if that makes sense I'll second this. The Clearwater area is loving awesome and I can't wait to go back. [Trying for the 2019 St. Petersburg Indy]
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McTinkerson posted:I'll second this. The Clearwater area is loving awesome and I can't wait to go back. [Trying for the 2019 St. Petersburg Indy] Get a hotel on the beach, best of both worlds. Downtown St.Pete is 10 minutes from the beach. Although staying downtown would be really nice too, it's the best downtown in the area by far.
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Mar 26, 2018 21:27
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mekilljoydammit posted:Yay, three phone screenings, some of which were extremely promising, and zero going to even "talking to anyone technically competent". Oh well, not like I'm terribly underemployed or anything.
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Mar 26, 2018 21:44
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Yeah basically everywhere in the Tampa Bay region is cool besides Tampa if that makes sense Tampa has its fun spots depending on what you like to do. St Pete and Clearwater are wayyyyyyyyyy too touristy unless it's winter time.
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Mar 26, 2018 22:23
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iwentdoodie posted:Tampa has its fun spots depending on what you like to do. St Pete and Clearwater are wayyyyyyyyyy too touristy unless it's winter time. Clearwater is ten times worse than St.Pete in that regard. Really, the whole coastline over the entire state is overrun by tourists this time of year.
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While I agree spay / neuter is a must and always get a rescue animal.... sorry but hybrid vigor is very much a thing. Thats why most cats and mutts dont tend to have the long list of issues purebred dogs do, their gene pool is more like a gene lake and genetic issues just dont get a chance to loop back in with inbreeding. Plus cats (and sometimes dogs) move in and out of wild populations where genetic issues are either diluted or kittens / pups dont survive to breed and pass it on, let alone have stronger immune systems. Inbreeding that exists in purebreds gently caress immune systems up and that is why hybrid vigor is truly a thing - the wider the potential genetic pool, the less chance a problem is passed on and the more chance a strong immune system is accquired. Frankly gently caress breeders because all they are doing is creating inbred little monsters that have so many genetic issues it's a wonder they can survive.
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Mar 26, 2018 22:49
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Sorry, I tried to visit LA yesterday when you guys started talking about it but I'm still stuck in tomorrow's rush hour traffic 20 miles outside of the city limits. I don't buy this, I drove from Phoenix to my house on the west side of Los Angeles on a sunday afternoon in 4 hours and 51 minutes once and that included stopping for gas twice, and Phoenix is at least 30 miles outside the city limits of Los Angeles.  FAT32 SHAMER posted:We’ve spent most of our time in West Hollywood and santanmonica so lol Almost as if the people who go to the right places in LA find LA to be very amenable and the ones who go to Disney and the Ripley's Believe it Or Not! Museum don't. Keep doing it right, glad you're enjoying some of this amazing weather that Rhyno missed out on. He also missed out on Mario's because his wife is afraid of the word seafood....
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I don't like Yorkies because they have incredibly annoying personality traits and are bluntly too small to be an actual dog. Cats are less dependent, smaller and typically quieter. I'm a dog elitist   Sometimes dog containment fails.
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Mar 26, 2018 23:47
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Ether Frenzy posted:I don't buy this, I drove from Phoenix to my house on the west side of Los Angeles on a sunday afternoon in 4 hours and 51 minutes once and that included stopping for gas twice, and Phoenix is at least 30 miles outside the city limits of Los Angeles. 
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Inbreeding that exists in purebreds gently caress immune systems up and that is why hybrid vigor is truly a thing - the wider the potential genetic pool, the less chance a problem is passed on and the more chance a strong immune system is accquired. This is on the same level as horoscopes and Himalayan salt lamps. But I'm not interested in debating it. Keep adopting rescues, whether papered or mutt, and rendering them sterile. 
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angryrobots posted:This is on the same level as horoscopes and Himalayan salt lamps. Most of the genetic defects are recessive traits right? So, uh, what?
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Wrar posted:Most of the genetic defects are recessive traits right? So, uh, what? He's talking about hybrid vigor, and that's an argument of perspective, really There are some exceptions, like mules and coywolves, but I feel like aphids are the argument both for and against hybrid vigor -They reproduce asexually when conditions are favorable and it's early in the season, they have their "perfect" model running and they don't want to risk ruining a good thing -They reproduce sexually if conditions are poor and it is late in the season, so that the successful aphids that thrived all year breed new, hopefully more successful aphids for next year Of course, hippies grabbed onto it with their dirty hands and say that everything needs to be a hybrid because every purpose bred organism is weak, because that's not what nature intended 
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Ether Frenzy posted:I don't buy this, I drove from Phoenix to my house on the west side of Los Angeles on a sunday afternoon in 4 hours and 51 minutes once and that included stopping for gas twice, and Phoenix is at least 30 miles outside the city limits of Los Angeles. Venice Beach and Manhattan beach also own, god drat
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Wrar posted:Most of the genetic defects are recessive traits right? So, uh, what? The part I quoted was something about hybrid vigor and immune systems, not recessive genes. Dogs aren't the only species that are bred for type. And fortunately so, because our food supply as we know it, depends on that. Dogs aren't special in that regard, but people use all kinds off bullshit terminology based on anecdotal evidence to justify... What exactly because I'm not sure either? What is the end goal, with a call to end all purposeful dog breeding?
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Ferremit posted:NOTHING is more destructive than an unemployed Sheepdog. This is a fukken top tier dog. Wanna pet that pup!
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