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Corky Romanovsky posted:That profit is theft from the workers, though, and the activities of the gray boxes doesn't really produce value and is even destructive. I'd rather the workers got to keep it (until we are fully automated gay married under weed space communism). Sure. But the next best thing is distributing the ill-gotten gains back to the workers via progressive taxation.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:The ability to one day move classes doesn't mean much until it's accomplished. A wage earner can always lose the wage, no matter how much it is. A wage stops being payment for value produced somewhere around whatever your salary is.
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A lot of specific individual bans on unenforceable items is a great place to start and end. The status quo will be maintained.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:dems..... learning.....??? this is only one but it's more than we had last week
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:dems..... learning.....??? hot drat
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S.2598 - A bill to establish State-Federal partnerships to provide students the opportunity to attain higher education as in-State public institutions of higher education without debt, to provide Federal Pell Grant eligibility to DREAMer students, to repeal suspension of eligibility under the Higher Education Act of 1965 for drug-related offenses, and for other purposes. Here is the bill on Congress.gov, though only the name appears in online records so far
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99% of the people who would refuse to give them up would be right wingers. this is a form of gun control i can get behind 
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Scent of Worf posted:99% of the people who would refuse to give them up would be right wingers. The Suck Zone!
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Exterminate the brutes
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:dems..... learning.....??? this owns owns OWNS
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https://twitter.com/killermike/status/978053530689847296?s=21 tfw you made a mistake
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:tfw you made a mistake It would be great if you'd own up to the millions of mistakes you've made.
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WampaLord posted:It would be great if you'd own up to the millions of mistakes you've made. my only mistake is engaging with obvious bad faith trolls like this post (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/killermike/status/978053530689847296?s=21 _____________________/ 
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you should probably have paid your maids as well, but I'm sure that to you that was good business and not a mistake
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killer Mike is good as hell
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I would like to pay my maids  so that they can log on and post something that’s not the same tired insult 400 times a day
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GalacticAcid posted:I would like to pay my maids Did you accidentally post this from your alt, WJ?
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:dems..... learning.....??? I guess if they stick their hands in the fire enough times, even a Democrat can learn that hot= bad.
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GalacticAcid posted:I would like to pay my maids *repeatedly posts dinesh you're gay very adult in the roomishly*
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Dinesh, you’re gay
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:my mistake is continuing to post
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:my only mistake is engaging with obvious bad faith trolls like this post  edit: how was I beaten
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What would be the GDP per worker if we eliminated managerial and administrative overhead?
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Ace of Baes posted:killer Mike is good as hell
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GalacticAcid posted:Dinesh, you’re gay
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quick, while the bad dem is sleeping off his sixer, let's go ahead and start the revolution! (also, jokes about wj not paying his maid pay off because five jokes is his limit to where he melts down and we're free for another six hours)
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disarm the cops, arm the people
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Pictures of Puerto Rico before and after six months after the hurricane.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:The ability to one day move classes doesn't mean much until it's accomplished. A wage earner can always lose the wage, no matter how much it is. I'm not talking about the ability to one day move classes; I'm talking about someone who has/had the choice of moving classes (in the sense of "living off returns" not "making more money") and chose not to. Someone who, had they chosen to have the standard living of a normal person making <$100,000, could have already saved enough to live off investment returns alone, or who already could live off returns alone but chooses to keep working because it means a lot more money (if someone gets, say, $50,000 from investment returns a year they have the option of no longer working, but they're choosing to do so because it means a lot of extra money). So if someone technically could live off investment returns but chooses not to because it would mean lowering their lifestyle from "super privileged" to "somewhat less privileged," it doesn't make sense to really count that person as someone living off labor. And that probably applies to quite a few people; almost anyone making like $300k+ who has been working for 10+ years would fit this description.
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Lastgirl posted:disarm the cops, arm the people 
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Any real gun enthusiast would live in a house that is a 100% accurate fully functional scale recreation of a triple barreled 18" battleship turret, sleeping on a hammock in the powder magazine. Anyone else is just a poser.
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18" turrets are for loving casuals, the real gun-heads live in original prototypes of the proposed 20" turrets for that nutso Nazi super-battleship.
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Corky Romanovsky posted:What would be the GDP per worker if we eliminated managerial and administrative overhead? these administrator and managerial positions have been paid very high in capitalist businesses to specifically be whipcrackers for capitalists on everyone else to underpay them. the real overhead is the capitalist extraction of profits and all of the market externalities resulting from its short-sighted profit seeking behavior over any other goal. you know, absurd market externalities like tens of millions of involuntarily unemployed and underemployed or the refusal to address the impending crisis of the global environment for human habitation through climate change if you think it's roll eyes to suggest capitalists exploit and extract profits from laborers, please define to me economically what % of labor the master was entitled to by his value-added to the labor of the slave and likewise for the noble and serf. remember that capitalists in american society very often do not even run or administrate the business. they simply own it and hire other people to run and administrate the business while maybe setting a high level policy to encourage offshoring of labor comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 08:56 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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comedyblissoption posted:administrative and managerial work isn't necessarily bad or unneeded and may even be necessary in any society. in some worker co-ops, the workers hire the managers and set a policy of a certain ratio of pay between the lowest and highest paid employees of the worker co-op. I have to agree with this. In some framings of the issue, the problem is not that a worker is never paid the full amount of the value that they created, but rather that when it comes to the part of the value that is retained by the company, they do not get a say in how it is spent.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:The Suck Zone! Whats this socialism of a sort that the right wing espouses foruks poster powercrazy
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:my only mistake is engaging with obvious bad faith trolls like this post sigh tfw you can't restrain yourself from making a mistake 
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