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22 Eargesplitten posted:Congratulations on killing the economy by stifling free enterprise, commie. You're god drat right
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Our sites aren't allowed alcohol so everyone goes to the pub on Friday 4pm and the team leads expense it as team building.
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Mar 26, 2018 22:55
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Our office hours are officially 9-6 so 5pm is game here. 8:30 am meetings can gently caress right off though, that's only 15 minutes after I get up.
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Mar 26, 2018 23:27
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We have an open bar every Friday from 5-8. Only beer and wine these days, used to be hard liquor too. Booze is free but you're expected to donate like $5-$10 (or more, or less, no one checks) to the charity of the month. There's a lovely pub literally in the building so people typically migrate there after an hour or so. It's pretty great. We also occasionally do shots for birthdays, promotions, and departures but that's more rare these days. Still got a bottle of Johnny Walker Island Green I'm going to break open tomorrow, our (only) network guy is moving to Vancouver since his wife got a job there.
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I block out 5:30 to 9:30PM on my calendar as busy every day. We have west coast offices and occasionally I'll get asked to attend a late PST meeting, but I just block the time out and haven't had a problem in a long time. There is the occasional exception, but the 4PM PST meeting requests pretty much stopped. That's my time with the kids. I"ll attend whatever they want after they go to bed if they feel like a late meeting. If I ever become the boss, I'll push for no meetings on Mondays or Fridays, and only between the hours of 9-12 and 1-3. If a non manager is spending more than 10 hours a week in meetings, there's a problem.
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Mar 27, 2018 00:46
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Place I worked at only did lunch meetings because they catered it. Everyone was a tech so that was the best time to interrupt everyone rather than screwing with us while we were working.
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Mar 27, 2018 00:51
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I had to hear a sermon every time I did an expense report that had alcohol on it at my last job. That's when I started just turning in the summary check. I also managed to tag along on some swag dinners with the higher ups. You know, the kind with $3000 liquor bills and all. I figure those fucks owe it to me if I'm being sent down to Mexico by myself for weeks at a time at age 25.
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Mar 27, 2018 01:00
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Sickening posted:What company doesn't give food to their contractors but gives food to their full timers? Like are the contractors suppose to sit there and watch everyone else eat? IDGI. Microsoft is notorious for this. It's like a loving caste system, and the contractors are Untouchables.
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Mar 27, 2018 01:51
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Sprechensiesexy posted:My previous company had rather lax policies regarding that, don't go over your individual daily budget and you can expense a reasonable amount of drinks. "Reasonable" not being defined or quantified in any meaningful way. So one colleague would expense dinners for everyone. Next colleague would expense a fuckton of drinks and a bowl of peanuts as 2nd dinner while still being within budget. My last job had a similar "be reasonable" policy (no restrictions, policy not documented anywhere because basically no one traveled, I made a point to check up on it), and after spending two weeks on the road I had to have a sit-down meeting with a VP because one of the receipts I turned on had two beers on the itemized receipt. She wanted me to pay back the company an amount I felt was "appropriate" because getting expensed for alcohol was not allowed. At that point I had worked three weeks straight of 12-hour days to almost singlehandedly cut over half a dozen locations to a new network following a merger, and instead of any thanks or congratulatory messages, I got "you violated a policy that doesn't exist and should be ashamed of yourself, pay us back $12". Yeah it still makes me mad.
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Mar 27, 2018 04:16
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The lesson I was taught was 'never turn in an itemized receipt'.
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Mar 27, 2018 04:35
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Just pay the sum you feel is appropriate: Nothing
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Mar 27, 2018 06:40
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Previous company let you expense freely. Until one time the IT crew ordered a lot of expensive drinks. The company did not look kindly on that. Since then, there's been a €20 limit on dinner expenses per person.
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Mar 27, 2018 09:16
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Place I work closes up shop at 6pm. I already work 9-6, but then they (3 times a year) want to have a company meeting starting at around 7pm "if you can make it". I showed for the first one because hey, probation period but I have 0 intention of going to any more. If you want me to go to work and then only start driving home 11 hours later without paying me past my scheduled time, you can gently caress off.
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Mar 27, 2018 11:57
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Our company is closed on Good Friday. That's not too bad.
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Mar 27, 2018 13:25
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GreenNight posted:Our company is closed on Good Friday. That's not too bad.  
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Mar 27, 2018 13:34
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Thanatosian posted:Microsoft is notorious for this. It's like a loving caste system, and the contractors are Untouchables. Most of the large tech companies do this as well. There was a stink made a few years back in CA about contractors being statutory employees because they were being treated like employees, getting lunch and attending holiday parties and the like. So now they are excluded lest someone sue.
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Mar 27, 2018 13:38
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Nike doesn't let their contractors use the on campus gym. "Culture of sport"
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Our office has no set hours really.. Some people are in by 6AM, some come in at 7, 7:30, 8, etc.. And then leave at random times anywhere between 4 and 5:30pm. Last one out has to close up the building. On Fridays we have what is called the "4:46 club" in which everyone piles into the conference room to drink a few. It starts shortly after 4pm.
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tortilla_chip posted:Nike doesn't let their contractors use the on campus gym. "Culture of sport" Previous company did this as well. I was not a fan of that. Current company has no in house gym sadly
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Mar 27, 2018 14:07
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Peachfart posted:The lesson I was taught was 'never turn in an itemized receipt'. Truth. We have an individual set of guidelines when it comes to our travel and expense policy, and it's pretty generous, but if there are 2 or more employees the meal gets reclassified as a "business meal" and there is no limit or guidelines at all. We don't get crazy or abusive, but we don't shy away from spending either. It's nice while it lasts.
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Mar 27, 2018 14:25
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If we don't turn in an itemized receipt, we don't get reimbursed.
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Mar 27, 2018 14:29
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GreenNight posted:Our company is closed on Good Friday. That's not too bad. I get good friday and easter monday for stats 
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Mar 27, 2018 14:32
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Only Easter Monday for me. Got to work on Good Friday.
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Mar 27, 2018 14:42
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What does Stat mean in that context anyway? My Canadian boss refers to them, but I always thought I was mishearing through his accent. Is it slang for state holiday, or is there something else to it?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:What does Stat mean in that context anyway? My Canadian boss refers to them, but I always thought I was mishearing through his accent. Is it slang for state holiday, or is there something else to it? (Stat)utory holiday.
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Mar 27, 2018 14:53
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Our rule is that you should feel free to expense a handful of drinks with dinner, but if you're gonna go to the bar and pound six tequilas in thirty minutes, maybe you're responsible for that one
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22 Eargesplitten posted:What does Stat mean in that context anyway? My Canadian boss refers to them, but I always thought I was mishearing through his accent. Is it slang for state holiday, or is there something else to it? Yup, as said, statutory.
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Mar 27, 2018 15:07
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SEKCobra posted:Just pay the sum you feel is appropriate: Nothing The end of the meeting was the VP saying she would talk to my boss, and then an hour later me going on two weeks vacation (after working 21 days straight). No one ever said anything else to me about it and I never paid anything back. Pretty much soured my relationship with that VP though, and was the first of several incidents that led me to leaving that job. 5 months later and they still haven't refilled my position. Hope that $12 in beer was worth it.
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Mar 27, 2018 15:08
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Sirotan posted:The end of the meeting was the VP saying she would talk to my boss, and then an hour later me going on two weeks vacation (after working 21 days straight). No one ever said anything else to me about it and I never paid anything back. Pretty much soured my relationship with that VP though, and was the first of several incidents that led me to leaving that job. 5 months later and they still haven't refilled my position. Hope that $12 in beer was worth it. Unless they're aware that their behaviour is what made you leave, from their point of view you were the one unreasonable. I mean, the way they see it is this: the company policy says to not do X and you did. Who's to blame here? All that other details (working 21 days straight, etc.) are just noise.
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Mar 27, 2018 15:20
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Are you guys also getting April fools mails from recruiters? I’m getting amazing offer for 25k gbp without relocation for IT Response Engineer. It was automagically matched by their big data machine learning algorithms.
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skipdogg posted:We have an individual set of guidelines when it comes to our travel and expense policy, and it's pretty generous, but if there are 2 or more employees the meal gets reclassified as a "business meal" and there is no limit or guidelines at all. We don't get crazy or abusive, but we don't shy away from spending either. It's nice while it lasts. When traveling for work, we can expense up to $75/day for meals. So in practice this means everyone eats the cheapest poo poo possible for breakfast and lunch. Then we pool all our money for a baller dinner someplace nice, with room for several drinks apiece. We did this to great effect in Vegas last year. Vulture Culture posted:Our rule is that you should feel free to expense a handful of drinks with dinner, but if you're gonna go to the bar and pound six tequilas in thirty minutes, maybe you're responsible for that one Also this. My boss (and his boss) are very cool about approving basically anything that isn't flagrantly abusive. Don't turn in an itemized receipt for 10 beers and nothing else, and you're totally fine.
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Mar 27, 2018 15:29
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Protip about LinkedIn messages that took me far too long to realise: you can just ignore the fuckers. Used to reply to them all and nicely tell them to go away. Not sure why.
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MF_James posted:That first one amuses me because growing up my friend's dad used to play wolfenstein at work and he had a hotkey, nicknamed the boss key, he'd hit it and it would bring up a pie chart or some poo poo so it looked like he was working.
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So my request to go to Defcon got shot down simply because it is in 'Vegas, lol'. CCC is still on the table at least. 
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Volguus posted:Unless they're aware that their behaviour is what made you leave, from their point of view you were the one unreasonable. I mean, the way they see it is this: the company policy says to not do X and you did. Who's to blame here? All that other details (working 21 days straight, etc.) are just noise. Lrn2read. Sirotan said there was no written policy, and specifically asked after it before leaving.
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Sprechensiesexy posted:Speaking of beer, we have a restaurant in our office building that serves beer and every Thursday/Friday I see people having a one with their lunch and I'm jealous because my company explicitly forbids drinking during office hours.
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Thanks Ants posted:Protip about LinkedIn messages that took me far too long to realise: you can just ignore the fuckers. Used to reply to them all and nicely tell them to go away. Not sure why. The same dude from a staffing agency in a state I moved out of 5 years ago still sends me job offerings every single month. I've never once responded to him. The way I see it is they work in sales. If he has a job I'm finally interested in, he's probably not going to pass up a potential sale just because I ignored his emails all this time  I don't regularly read this thread but man, I can't even order a beer on lunch at my job. Occasionally the company will do after-hour functions which typically has an open bar at least.
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Volguus posted:Unless they're aware that their behaviour is what made you leave, from their point of view you were the one unreasonable. I mean, the way they see it is this: the company policy says to not do X and you did. Who's to blame here? All that other details (working 21 days straight, etc.) are just noise. There was no company policy, and I guess I don't really give a poo poo if they think I was the unreasonable one or not. At the time the VP talked to me like I was a child, and my spineless boss who approved everything before it hit the VP's desk could not/would not back me up. If they had approached it like "Hey sirotan, we know you probably got some conflicting information, and this policy is not actually documented anywhere, but just so you know we don't allow alcohol purchases on the company tab. Just don't do it again, ok?", instead of "We have rule followers on this team, and they think you broke the rules. We need you to pay back the amount of money you spent on alcohol for the course of this trip. No, I'm not going to give you a figure, you need to pick what you think is appropriate". Hell, I probably would have given them their drat $12 just to be done with it, if she'd actually followed through.
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Is it even worth a VP's time to lecture a subordinate over $12?
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I guess I don't mind a polite "please don't do that again", but don't ask for the money back, that's just petty.
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