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Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


dont even fink about it posted:

People are like "Negan is the lone bright spot," but Negan's 200% over the top xtreme nihilism, torture pornography, and the general lack of sensible storytelling surrounding just his introduction are what made me finally stop watching this show.

People who say this are objectively wrong, because the truth is this:

Simon is the lone bright spot. :colbert:


This needs music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQf2TiwBFHo

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Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Fionordequester
Dec 27, 2012

Actually, I respectfully disagree with you there. For as obviously flawed as this game is, there ARE a lot of really good things about it. The presentation and atmosphere, for example, are the most immediate things. No other Yu-Gi-Oh game goes out of the way to really make

Gortarius posted:

I think what the people making this show set out to do was to try and top the previous poo poo scene with an even worse pile of garbage. But the episode did ask us, the viewers, some very philosophical questions:

Well, let's see if I can help the two of us figure it out. Heaven's knows we don't want the show to fall any further than it already has...

Gortarius posted:

Where the gently caress did the farmville doctor suddenly appear from, and why the gently caress is she running her mouth off to some volunteer? No I must have seasoned doctors only in my apocalypse trailer, get the gently caress out!

She was testing him; seeing if he had any backbone. That's why she immediately changed her mind the instant he spoke up for himself. He showed that he had enough confidence in his own skills to work under pressure.

Gortarius posted:

Is it possible to drive into your enemies with a motorcycle while firing a uzi or whatever onehanded and be successful? Yes.

Yeah...not gonna defend that one.

Gortarius posted:

Why does Carl 2.0 exist? He sucks, both the character and the actor. He is stupid even for the shows standards.

Perhaps to take over for some of Carl's plotlines, later in the comic book? Kinda like how Michonne kinda took Andrea's place as Rick's love interest?

Gortarius posted:

Where did Negan get a band of archers to work for him? He must have quite the network; not only does he have an infinite number of goons, he has also had evil lumberjacks and a motorcycle gang all work for him in previous seasons. Wow.

Wait, what are you talking about? I saw Dwight shoot Darryl's crossbow, but, I didn't see any other arrow firing.

Gortarius posted:

Someone got stabbed in the chest and all I could think of was "Who?". He looked sorta like the giant Carol used to hang out with but it's been so long... oh it was him. Oh and he died... If only they had someone looking after the injured but instead they all passed out on the floor right next to the open front door. Tobin's stealthkill rampage would have been short-lived if it wasn't for that idiot Rick who said that it's too hot to keep the windows closed, so I guess he left the door open too. You know, after they just had a skirmish and said they don't have the resources to defend themselves from another attack.

Yep. Show has way too many characters :cheeky: .

Gortarius posted:

Speaking of Tobin, I thought Tobin was the name of that wall engineer who jumped into a zombies mouth many seasons ago. Another great plan by Rick that went to hell.

To be fair, stuff like that is why Rick tends to make a habit of delegating jobs to other people. Giving up sole control of the group to form a council in Season 3, letting Alexandria's leader (back when she was still alive) call the shots while he served as police officer, and then declaring that he'd let Maggie be the leader after the war ends.

The guy's always been more of a warrior than a thinker; and his willingness to acknowledge that is part of what separated him from Shane (why do fans insist he'd make such a better leader, anyway? Dude had no control over himself; he was far too erratic and self-destructive)

Gortarius posted:

There was also this scene of Maggie moping around in some poo poo cemetery and then there was this scene of Maggie moping around in some poo poo cemetery. I thought I had maybe suffered a stroke or a time warp but no, there's two almost identical scenes in this episode.

:sigh:

Gortarius posted:

Finally, I think Rick rejecting to get his wound treated twice is going to be some epic plot point later on. Just like the blue paint on simon's shoe. It'll all come together...

I really hope not. The show seems to really like teasing comic book fans with that particular possibility; and I've gotten kinda tired of it.

Gortarius posted:

What a load of horse patoot.

Eh, better than previous episodes at least. Something actually happened, for one.

Fionordequester fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Mar 27, 2018

Gortarius
Jun 6, 2013

idiot

Fionordequester posted:

Wait, what are you talking about? I saw Dwight shoot Darryl's crossbow, but, I didn't see any other arrow firing.

Maybe I've gone off the deep end, but I swear I saw one shot of people with bows unloading on the lovely mansion they all live in. I'll try and look it up...

Ragnarok the Red
Jun 21, 2002

Gortarius posted:

Finally, I think Rick rejecting to get his wound treated twice is going to be some epic plot point later on. Just like the blue paint on simon's shoe. It'll all come together...


RIck not getting his wound treated is probably gonna lead into the flashback scene all year where he's lying on the ground in a fever sweat starting up at those painted glass decorations hanging from that tree.

Also holy poo poo is this season really on track to ending with Negan killing Simon, reasserting control of the Saviors, and the war being dragged on another year?

Spellman
May 31, 2011

I used to really hate Simon (wanted him dead) but goddamn as an actor he's so drat fun to have around. Deserves a nasty death, but he's great

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
There was a moment when a bunch of people hiding under a tarp in the back of a truck stood up and started shooting arrows in Maggie’s direction.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

lmfao, just one guy hitting the deck and spraying in his general direction would end it quick, but nah, let's all just scatter like headless chickens before the almighty Daryl.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."
I CBA to even look up youtube clips of this poo poo anymore. You've become my window into this trainwreck now, moist.

Myron
Jul 13, 2009

Gortarius posted:

Maybe I've gone off the deep end, but I swear I saw one shot of people with bows unloading on the lovely mansion they all live in. I'll try and look it up...

Yeah, there were a few shots of several archers:







That's only an issue because Negan has infinite men, guns and ammo, though. If not for that, it would make sense to have all kinds of weapons around. The ~Kingdom~ had archers too.

Gortarius
Jun 6, 2013

idiot
I love those incredibly slow vehicle segments.

Like them crashing into the bus and Darl slowly driving back to HQ. It's all just so poo poo and it really makes me think they can't afford stuntmen so instead they just have to be extra careful and take no risks.

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
They can afford stuntmen but they kill them off too.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Everyone better have their lights on so we know exactly where they are

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
I still don't understand why Maggie Goodbrains' grand plan was to let them come into the hilltop instead of like, shooting them from the perches on the wall

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




if Drrrl had just gotten plinked straight in the face during that motorcycle scene i would have a modicum more respect for TWD

Agent Burt Macklin
Jul 3, 2003

Macklin, you son of a bitch

TTerrible posted:

Wow the season is really picking up, that was great.

lol

moist turtleneck posted:

I still don't understand why Maggie Goodbrains' grand plan was to let them come into the hilltop instead of like, shooting them from the perches on the wall

I'd blame it on pregnancy brain, but uh, is she still pregnant?! Judith is the only one aging so it seems like three years have passed since she was born.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Kelly posted:

lol


I'd blame it on pregnancy brain, but uh, is she still pregnant?! Judith is the only one aging so it seems like three years have passed since she was born.

I think much like the topic of Heath, the writers are hoping people just forget about her pregnancy.
Speaking of Heath, how did the new 24 pan out?

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

Hasselblad posted:

Speaking of Heath, how did the new 24 pan out?
Sucked. He was one of the least interesting parts of it, too. The actor who played his brother on the show was a more exciting and charismatic figure.

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

moist turtleneck posted:

I still don't understand why Maggie Goodbrains' grand plan was to let them come into the hilltop instead of like, shooting them from the perches on the wall

Her plan was amazing, it got them to slowly walk straight into a wall of gunfire. It's not her fault peoples aim purely depends on what the plot needs.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.
I enjoy seeing that each and every firearm is fully automatic with magazines that have perpetual ammo.

Except Risk and him carrying the silly 2 pound revolver around because ~reasons~

edit: gently caress it, keeping it spelled Risk.

Gortarius
Jun 6, 2013

idiot
Btw that slow crawl while bunched up on an open field and then whistling away your location? Brilliant move by Simon.

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Gortarius posted:

Btw that slow crawl while bunched up on an open field and then whistling away your location? Brilliant move by Simon.

He could not see and so was falling back on his echo-location ability.

JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.
One of my favorite parts was when Maggie lets the one savior outside to dig graves for people, and apparently all the savior casualties amounted to half of the bed of a pickup truck.

My second favorite part was when showing "the costs of battle" with the graves that only like 10 people died from the savior attack, and then only like 6 more graves appeared after the sneaky zombie infiltration.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
Wait did they not kill the fat crying guy?

Nobody looked like they had a "fine I'll do it" look on their faces

I thought it could be Darryl but his knife was bloody before going into the room and when he left to go talk to everyone in the next room

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjU-qVZI2M

JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.
T-Dog! :swoon:

If he were still alive, he'd be making confused/incredulous faces at everything going on lately.

Princeps32
Nov 9, 2012

JossiRossi posted:

T-Dog! :swoon:

If he were still alive, he'd be making confused/incredulous faces at everything going on lately.

it's such bullshit that t-dog lived through season 2 slog and an entire winter only to get ganked baby steps into the prison arc. loving lori outlived him.

Bates
Jun 15, 2006
After observing your community I have determined you will be able to survive at a medieval level. I briefly considered giving you plans for steam engines and 18th century construction techniques but it turned out I was just having a mild stroke.

Myron
Jul 13, 2009

I like how she actually said she can "divine" that they're a fine group. She wouldn't have come to that conclusion from actually observing them. She could have ended up with the saviours just as well and seeing how Negan reacted to Eugene's brilliant plan to use guns to shoot bullets at the zombies, he'd probably go crazy when he saw a loving windmill. "For a lady with no balls you sure got some bigass balls, lady!" *5 second closeup of dumb smile*

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I loving loved how the kid at the prison gate didn't A) See the zombie and B) They never even mentioned a wounded prisoner. Not once.

Forbes posted:

The Fight

The walker feast wasn't the only bit where extras are killed en masse. Simon leads the Savior assault on the Hilltop and I literally don't understand anybody's strategy here. I swear the writers on this show make these characters do the stupidest nonsense whenever battle is concerned (and all the time, really.) I guess Simon's plan is to send his men headlong through the gate and Maggie's strategy is to let them through the gate so they can shoot at them. Simon's people have so few bullets they're using bow and arrow and melee weapons almost exclusively. Against assault rifles. Alrighty then.

Later, the survivors all go into Gregory's mansion and kill all the lights in the yard. Simon's entire force was hiding behind one bus somehow. Seriously, they all come out from behind this one bus and then walk across the open yard toward the building whistling to let the good guys know they're coming.

Shockingly, the good guys turn on some lights and shoot at the Saviors who are all bunched together in the open. It's a miracle they aren't all killed at this point, but I guess nobody can shoot to save their lives in this abomination of a TV show. This entire battle sequence was just absurd. Of course, Maggie is super upset when Simon and some others get away, but that's what you get for not posting anyone on the perimeter to intercept anyone trying to escape.

I was going to write all this but frankly Forbes wrote everything I wanted to

Johnny Truant posted:

if Drrrl had just gotten plinked straight in the face during that motorcycle scene i would have a modicum more respect for TWD

I also love Daryl's "Ride up on a noisy motorcycle with a headlight at 50 men behind cover" plan that worked despite the fact he should have been filled with enough lead to have a Daryl sized pencil

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Mar 28, 2018

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Shneak posted:

They can afford stuntmen but they kill them off too.

I just saw a TON of awesome stunt work on Ash Vs Evil Dead which has a micro budget and is facing possible cancellation thanks to Starz going down in flames. There is no justice.

They never even killed any stuntmen.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Myron posted:

That's only an issue because Negan has infinite men, guns and ammo, though. If not for that, it would make sense to have all kinds of weapons around. The ~Kingdom~ had archers too.

You are wrong. I've come to the conclusion that Negan doesn't have infinite men. He has the same number of men that infinitely respawn. Important distinction.

ED: Poor Steven Ogg having to play the mentally handicapped version of Trevor. The actual Trevor would have just set the whole loving place on fire after taking out the like 3 guards they had there.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Are there any sites tracking a savior death count?

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

dont even fink about it posted:

Are there any sites tracking a savior death count?

I've never laughed so hard. I was going "Holy gently caress, are there any Saviors left? They killed ten times as many as could be in the car."

Then Simon walks out and I'm like "Are Simon and Dwight it?"

Then the SAME NUMBER of them emerge behind them and I started laughing so hard, only to recompose myself right before Simon started walking towards a house full of people with assault rifles whistling in the open and then took off like a loving Loony Tunes character when they all started shooting, unscathed.

It really has turned into a cartoon. Not in the comic way, but like, straight up Bugs Bunny.

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe
"We're all infected. We all carry it"

This explains a lot. The zombie "virus" is not benign, with no manifestation until death.

wikipedia posted:

Spinochordodes tellinii is a parasitic nematomorph hairworm whose larvae develop in orthopteran insects (grasshoppers and crickets). This parasite is able to influence its host's behavior: once the parasite is grown, it causes its grasshopper host to jump into water, where the grasshopper will likely drown.


The zombie virus, which infests everyone, causes the host to engage in irrational & self-destructive behaviour at times. This can explain so much - why seemingly smart people do really stupid things that end up killing themselves.
It explains why otherwise rational Rick was talking on a non-existent telephone a few seasons back. It explains why Morgan is seeing things. It explains why some survivors seem to have On/Off switch for "kill everything/no more killing".
It explains why people who are involved in the creation and execution of a war plan will decide on their own to take off and do something else without telling anyone.
It explains why people who are in the midst of a protracted war engage in one battle and then all go to sleep at the same time without guards, sentries, lookouts.

(What it doesn't explain is what's going on with the writers of the show).

Kelly posted:

lol


I'd blame it on pregnancy brain, but uh, is she still pregnant?! Judith is the only one aging so it seems like three years have passed since she was born.
I know this will seem ridiculous but from S06 to now, only a few weeks have gone by.

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Mar 28, 2018

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Hasselblad posted:

I enjoy seeing that each and every firearm is fully automatic with magazines that have perpetual ammo.

Except Risk and him carrying the silly 2 pound revolver around because ~reasons~

edit: gently caress it, keeping it spelled Risk.

Yeah, I want to know where they keep fishing all these full auto weapons from. Even the military doesn't really have any aside from the SAW and a bunch of heavy poo poo....like 50 cals....with the penetration of a squirt gun.
I had some respect for Glen rockin' that Mosin M44. Seems the perfect zombie gun with the folding baby stabber

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Mar 28, 2018

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

I kept watching this waaay past its best before date. I have no idea why. I guess i'm a masochist.

In the latest episode I got as far as the dead shambling out of the medical trailer and then into the house with the door wide open and everyone just sleeping in a big meat pile in the living room with no watchmen or patrols or any kind of the sort of logical thing people would do in that sort of situation and decided that i had finally had enough.

I turned off the TV and made up my own ending where everyone just gets eaten because they are all too dumb to live. The End.

I'm so relieved that I don't have to watch this poo poo anymore. I'm Free!! FREEEEEEEEEE

warcrimes
Jul 6, 2013

I don't know what's it called, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a J4G's life. :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:

Svaha posted:

I kept watching this waaay past its best before date. I have no idea why. I guess i'm a masochist.

In the latest episode I got as far as the dead shambling out of the medical trailer and then into the house with the door wide open and everyone just sleeping in a big meat pile in the living room with no watchmen or patrols or any kind of the sort of logical thing people would do in that sort of situation and decided that i had finally had enough.

I turned off the TV and made up my own ending where everyone just gets eaten because they are all too dumb to live. The End.

I'm so relieved that I don't have to watch this poo poo anymore. I'm Free!! FREEEEEEEEEE

See you next week.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

SocketWrench posted:

Yeah, I want to know where they keep fishing all these full auto weapons from. Even the military doesn't really have any aside from the SAW and a bunch of heavy poo poo....like 50 cals....with the penetration of a squirt gun.
I had some respect for Glen rockin' that Mosin M44. Seems the perfect zombie gun with the folding baby stabber

Uhhhhh... literally most military weapons are automatic. The main assault rifle was nerfed to 3-round bursts because idiot recruits can't handle full auto and keep thinking it's the Rambo button instead of the "careful burst of your choice" option. To be honest them having a shitload of full auto assault rifles is more realistic than the Saviors being down to bows & arrows.

There's more bullets than people in the US, literally. There's more GUNS than people in the US..

ED: A better question is why everyone and their grandmother doesn't have grenades

ED: This may have been the most frustratingly unrealistic battle ever filmed on TV. It goes beyond military tactic nitpicking and survivalist poo poo like before, it's "nobody is doing anything remotely loving logical." When Simon started whistling walking towards a house with a ton of people with rifles in the dark I was like "Really? Really? REALLY? loving REALLY?" Someone needs to watch Full Metal Jacket again to see how loving building cover works

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Mar 28, 2018

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John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

The show is not ready to release you.

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