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I might need to recover my psn password then. I'll actually use my ps3 again. Thanks guys!
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If you guys liked Suikoden II so much, why didn't you buy it back then
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Mar 29, 2018 04:34
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Mar 29, 2018 04:39
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Bruceski posted:It's not the age that makes it icky, it's the power differential. Yeah, but on the other hand she only comes onto him after she's fired.
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Mar 29, 2018 04:43
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Yeah, she only takes him to makeout point after it's decided she isn't cutting it as an instructor.
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Mar 29, 2018 04:52
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Recurring theme of discarding and forgetting the past, rushing to the future, forcing children to be adults, things like that. FF8 is written like a music video.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:01
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lobster22221 posted:Three is the least insane final fantasy right? I'll assume so, and ask: On a scale of final fantasy 3 to the thirteen series, how insane is final fantasy 8? Id say VI is probably the overall most straightforward. 8 is the pinnacle of madness because it just doesnt care to connect most of its poo poo together and when it does it only makes things more confusing. You see you can inhabit your dads body in the past because the girl he will have had rescued will be part of a machine which uses sorcery to send spirits through to time so that your dad will have had will have beaten a sorceress who ruled an eternal future city by launching her into outerspace. This device will never be mentioned again and this power of spirit traveling through time is never used again and completely different from the two other forms of time travel present in the game. Also in this game you put on a USO music concert and pick which soldiers play what instrumenets to play the main theme of the game before going on a date with your girlfriend who tried to kill the heads of state of a soverigng country (that she eventually forgive and theyll ignore her treason) and one of your friend gives you a porno mag to give you pro strats. Edit: Following this concert you fist fight a man while hanging from a rope from his mechahelicopyer and then kill a hockey team Barudak fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Mar 29, 2018 05:04
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Barudak posted:Id say VI is probably the overall most straightforward. 6 has a few weird moments, like a city where everyone lies for some reason, and a train taking people to the afterlife, but I think you might be right. A crazy villain that dresses up like a clown is workable material, but doesn't seem like something you need drugs to come up with. Nor does stealing the power of gods. For a jrpg plot I guess it really is more down to earth. You can suplex the train, but that is a translation thing so I'm not counting that. 8 really is does sound like it is quite a ride from what everyone is saying. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Mar 29, 2018 05:11
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8 is probably the easiest game in the franchise if you know what youre doing and if you play the PC version you can cheat to give yourself plenty of stuff to coast through the game without even dealing with the setup to any of it. Everyone who is interested in FF games should play it because despite how much we wrote were still missing some weirdness because there is just so goddamn much of it in the game. Like a missle launch where you have to fiddle with the missles programmed feature to aim badly. Thats right, you dont prevent the launch or detonate them in flight because the missles dont have that feature, but they do have a feature to do a lovely job of aiming so you turn that variable to the max.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:22
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Barudak posted:8 is probably the easiest game in the franchise if you know what youre doing and if you play the PC version you can cheat to give yourself plenty of stuff to coast through the game without even dealing with the setup to any of it. One of the characters uses a dog as a weapon, right?
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Mar 29, 2018 05:24
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lobster22221 posted:One of the characters uses a dog as a weapon, right? Yes. One of you other party membes who is otherwise a regular 20ish year old woman can eat just about any non boss monster in the game. Oh poo poo I forgot about the alien species that took over a spaceship that can only be killed permanently if you kill another alien of the same color as it before you kill it Edit: Im pretty sure its the first and only mainline non MMO title to have a character utter the phrae “Final Fantasy” as part of speeh theyre giving. Barudak fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Mar 29, 2018 05:29
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Barudak posted:Yes. One of you other party membes who is otherwise a regular 20ish year old woman can eat just about any non boss monster in the game.  go on. I'm loving this.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:35
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lobster22221 posted:Wait, did they do that in suikoden? Actually is the Suikoden series worth playing? I've heard of it but never tried it. Suikoden 2 is one of the best jrpgs, ever. It's so loving good. S1 is also pretty good but not AS good.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:46
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Gologle posted:If you guys liked Suikoden II so much, why didn't you buy it back then i did motherfucker i was floored when orrizonte actually played just once
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Mar 29, 2018 05:47
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corn in the bible posted:Suikoden 2 is one of the best jrpgs, ever. It's so loving good. S1 is also pretty good but not AS good. Are they separated similar to how Final Fanasy games are, or does play order actually matter?
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Mar 29, 2018 05:47
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Suikoden is at least still a pretty easy recommendation since it's so short and you find callbacks/cameros in the next game.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:48
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lobster22221 posted:Are they separated similar to how Final Fanasy games are, or does play order actually matter? They're all set in the same world, but they all tell different stories from different points in the world's history. A few characters show up in multiple games, but for the most part you can play them in any order. 1-3 are the most interconnected of the series.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:54
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The weird thing about the FFVIII Concert is there are two songs the band can serenade Squall and Rinoa with. There is a recurring motif throughout the game that is basically their love theme and that is one of the options for the band to play. HOWEVER, if you have the band play this song, Squall and Rinoa get into a fight and she runs away. The other song choice is...an Irish jig. Not only do Squall and Rinoa not fight if this is playing, they both open up and talk more about themselves. This is such a peculiar design decision and if there is any chance of an in-universe explanation it's that "Eyes on Me", the song that causes the fight, was written by Rinoa's mother who died tragically young and this has caused a lot of problems in Rinoa's life. Of course the game never really addresses this. You just kinda have to assume it, same for Irvine's "actual" reason for being a terrible sharpshooter. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Mar 29, 2018 05:55
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Barudak posted:Yes. One of you other party membes who is otherwise a regular 20ish year old woman can eat just about any non boss monster in the game. I don't remember this? Where does that happen?
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Mar 29, 2018 05:56
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lobster22221 posted:Are they separated similar to how Final Fanasy games are, or does play order actually matter? They all happen in the same world, so you see areas and meet people you heard about previously or whatever. Except for 4 which is set 200 years in the past, in a place that was never mentioned before, and sucks.
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Mar 29, 2018 05:59
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NikkolasKing posted:The weird thing about the FFVIII Concert is there are two songs the band can serenade Squall and Rinoa with. There is a recurring motif throughout the game that is basically their love theme and that is one of the options for the band to play. HOWEVER, if you have the band play this song, Squall and Rinoa get into a fight and she runs away. I never knew this was a thing. I knew there were two songs but not that the scene changed like that.
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Mar 29, 2018 06:02
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The correct order to play them in is 1->2->3->5->get really mad that the series is dead and all the loose plot threads from 3 will be forever unresolved
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Fister Roboto posted:The correct order to play them in is 1->2->3->5->get really mad that the series is dead and all the loose plot threads from 3 will be forever unresolved If you're short on time, you've gotta play 2. I'd recommend 5 next, but I mostly watched that game over my roomate's shoulder. Looked pretty great though.
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Mar 29, 2018 06:05
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5 is way way way too slow, and getting everyone without a guide is impossible. I ain't got time for that anymore. 1 and 2 never waste your time, it's all drama and recruiting people and war and it's rad.
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Mar 29, 2018 06:07
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Haha yeah. I remember when FF13 first came out and people were saying it had a really slow start, and I thought that it couldn't possibly have a slower start than Suikoden 5. I was right.
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Mar 29, 2018 06:13
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lobster22221 posted:Three is the least insane final fantasy right? I'll assume so, and ask: On a scale of final fantasy 3 to the thirteen series, how insane is final fantasy 8? Read this. https://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 EDIT: I like games with a slow start I guess, I played Dragon Quest 7. Twice.
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Mar 29, 2018 06:14
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I think most every JRPG i've ever played has a "slow start" on a replay. It's just kinda unavoidable since the beginning tends to be very basic gameplay and/or plot establishment that you don't give a gently caress about once you know it. I just race through the first few hours trying to get back to something I find exciting. I've never played Suikoden V but FF13's opening is not what I'd call "slow." I dunno, most FF games aren't really exceptionally slow in my view. Now, even as a fan of the game, Xenosaga Episode 1's opening is tedious as all hell.
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Mar 29, 2018 06:21
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NikkolasKing posted:Now, even as a fan of the game, Xenosaga
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Die Sexmonster! posted:EDIT: I like games with a slow start I guess, I played Dragon Quest 7. Twice.  
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NikkolasKing posted:I think most every JRPG i've ever played has a "slow start" on a replay. It's just kinda unavoidable since the beginning tends to be very basic gameplay and/or plot establishment that you don't give a gently caress about once you know it. I just race through the first few hours trying to get back to something I find exciting. I might be misremembering, but I thought final fantasy 6 pretty much starts with you discovering an esper and joining the rebellion, and only escalates from there. Thirteen definitely starts out fast. Does pokemon count? I feel like these games are always paced super evenly. So the start doesn't feel that much slower than the end. Golden Sun only feels slow because nobody ever shuts up. Disgaea's story escalates, but I wouldn't call it a slow start. A lot of these games speed up, but that doesn't mean they start slow.
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lobster22221 posted:I might be misremembering, but I thought final fantasy 6 pretty much starts with you discovering an esper and joining the rebellion, and only escalates from there. JRPGs always "start slow" in so far as you learn the mechanics with a single party member and gradually build, but games like Suikoden 5 and DQ7 definitely take it to an extreme - you don't see any combat for the first 4-8 hours of DQ7.
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It actually owns
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Die Sexmonster! posted:JRPGs always "start slow" in so far as you learn the mechanics with a single party member and gradually build, but games like Suikoden 5 and DQ7 definitely take it to an extreme - you don't see any combat for the first 4-8 hours of DQ7. Oh, I thought we were talking narrative. Yeah that would definitely change my list. In that case 13 is probably the slowest game ever. You don't unlock the full system until halfway through the game. Magic takes a long time to access too. Disgaea gives you a quick intro chapter and then waits a while to teach you about the item world. umm.. Finding exceptions to this rule is definitely a lot harder. lobster22221 fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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Electric Phantasm posted:I don't remember this? Where does that happen? Quistis's Limit Break Devour does the eating The Space-Ship with color-coded genocide is when you first get on the Ragnarok after doing the space suit rescue suicide mission to save Rinoa The phrase "Final Fantasy" is uttered by Edea when she gives her speech to Galbadia about how she is the new ruler and they will live in fear of her right before you attempt to assassinate her.
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NikkolasKing posted:I think most every JRPG i've ever played has a "slow start" on a replay. It's just kinda unavoidable since the beginning tends to be very basic gameplay and/or plot establishment that you don't give a gently caress about once you know it. I just race through the first few hours trying to get back to something I find exciting. in suikoden 5 you spend like five hours on a tournament arc before anything even happens with the plot
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Mar 29, 2018 07:06
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Die Sexmonster! posted:Read this. https://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=ff08 This was great. Thank you.
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Barudak posted:Quistis's Limit Break Devour does the eating 
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FF15 newbie here The banter the 4 friends have about everything is the most interesting part of the game Now whether or not that itself is a problem I'm not sure.
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corn in the bible posted:in suikoden 5 you spend like five hours on a tournament arc before anything even happens with the plot I mean, if the tournament arc is interesting in terms of establishing the battle system or introducing characters, I could see it being kinda fun. I need to play the Suikoden series someday but I still have Dragon Quest which I was supposed to start years ago. I even bought the first two games but never played them. Maybe next month.
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voltcatfish posted:FF15 newbie here There's a post-game dungeon that does a great job of Dark Souls-ish environmental storytelling, and the villain really comes into his own by the end. Otherwise, absolutely true. I would've loved to see Tabata's take on a Final Fantasy from the ground up, but Square... gave him his own studio? https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/27/17167190/square-enix-new-studio-luminous-productions-ff15-hajime-tabata
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