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mercenarynuker posted:DO ships have ammo that needs resupply in this? Or only fuel? But jesusu, the raider group doing loving work ammunition is tracked per shell, per gun, and large battleship sized guns can only be reloaded at large/advanced ports.
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Although the Kamikaze class is fairly obsolete Japan needs literally any and every destroyer it can find. They're useful for convoy escort duties.
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world supply of submerged pre-atmospheric nuclear isotope ridden steel lookin good
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27 March 1944 USAAF aircraft sink the German corvette Uj-205 (ex-Italian Colubrina) at Venice.
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Well, uhm, uhm, we sunk the Asanagi?  It's better than losing two fleet carriers? Probably.
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Mar 28, 2018 17:21
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I was going to make a joke about your torpedo boat destroyer getting destroyed by a torpedo boat, but it got lost in the sounds of crushing bulkheads and glorious victory.
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OK, Grey, we get it, your Raiders are pretty damned legendary, turn the "outrageous banzai" valve back down now 
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Mar 28, 2018 18:57
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Never. Surface raiding is the one thing I Excel at in this game.
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I was thinking "drat, the heroism of those PT boats saving the transports is going to be good propaganda for America" Then I got further into the update and more ships kept sinking and then the PT boats died like all the rest.
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Grey Hunter posted:Never. Surface raiding is the one thing I Excel at in this game. Time to aim those cruiser groups at the US carriers then!
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Grey Hunter posted:Never. Surface raiding is the one thing I Excel at in this game. Word, it is one of your Power Points.
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Woodchip posted:Word, it is one of your Power Points. Paint.
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Just be careful, otherwise the USN will Schedule an Entourage of very much alive carriers to put in an express Mail delivery of death on top of the raiders. ... And then there will be Accounting in Tokyo. Serpentis fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 28, 2018 |
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Mar 28, 2018 21:25
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wedgekree posted:... why are IJN PT Boats worth like ten points and USN ones worth one? IJN PT boats can make it all the way to the English Channel. Just ask the Russians.
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McNally posted:IJN PT boats can make it all the way to the English Channel. Just ask the Russians. if I'm ever rich I'm gonna finance a historical epic/comedy about the journey of the Russian Fleet to Tsushima
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HannibalBarca posted:if I'm ever rich I'm gonna finance a historical epic/comedy about the journey of the Russian Fleet to Tsushima Heck pitch it to Wes Anderson and he'll make some kind of period trippy masterpiece out of it!
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Grey Hunter posted:Never. Surface raiding is the one thing I Excel at in this game. It is a real shame your fleet sank that last patrol boat. You almost had something perfect for that update. 
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The 5500 men were probably on the Winged Arrow, a 14,000 ton troop ship. That was a biggie.
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Mar 29, 2018 02:48
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First time my fav ship turn up since the invasion of Wake Island at he start of the campaign and man what a spectacular showing on it's return. ... I just jinxed it didn't I?
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I've said this before, but Japan killing every single able-bodied man in the US by sending them to the bottom of the Pacific seriously puts a dent in the "US industrial capacity made victory an inevitability" common wisdom.
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Wow, just caught up with this thread. If it's still afloat and unclaimed, can I take the USS Pecos (AO-65) as my lucky ship?
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Monkeytime posted:Wow, just caught up with this thread. If it's still afloat and unclaimed, can I take the USS Pecos (AO-65) as my lucky ship? Its assumed sunk, but not confirmed
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HannibalBarca posted:if I'm ever rich I'm gonna finance a historical epic/comedy about the journey of the Russian Fleet to Tsushima Call up the director who made The Death of Stalin.
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   We hit another troop ship.  This one comes with reports of burning fuel.  These Kittyhawks are new, and I'm not all that thrilled to see them! The torpedoes are also new and bad.  We have a slightly better showing in the afternoon.   Wake is invaded for the second time.  Come morning, we maul the Castor.  One of the hero destroyers from yesterday is alone and an easy prey.  Make it home mate! Survive!  The guns at Wake continue to find their range.  While our ground forces hold their ground.   Enemy ground losses cross 20,000 points, over double my own! Let's not look at plane losses.  We continue to sink at least as many ships as we lose. I do need to report a slight issue.  The heavy combat operations of yesterday drained the fuel from hero squadron. Now I'm not going to abandon them, but any tanker sent out will be murdered.  I call this resupply in force. The hope is the massed AA will protect the ships. It's going to be in, merge task forces, refuel at sea, home. The Kido Butai is also out to provide air support.
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Saint Celestine posted:Call up the director who made The Death of Stalin. I want to see AU-Iannucci make one of his dead black comedies about Jaluit. ETA: THIS IS A BRILLIANT TRICK TO LURE THE AMERICANS INTO A DECISIVE BATTLE! Though how bad is AI recon to not notice there's an entire flotilla of IJN ships listing in the south Pacific sun? One fleet carrier wing would sink every single one of those boats, but I guess bombing already ruined airfields is more important. Also, while the US troop loses are really bad in this timeline, the US only had about a million total casualities in OT out of 16m total armed service members at the end of the war. The US absolutely can sustain these types of losses. habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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I like where this is going. Japanese AA shall prevail.
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Well, this is going to be one for the history books again
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habeasdorkus posted:I want to see AU-Iannucci make one of his dead black comedies about Jaluit. Another 600,000 and we'll have decimated them!
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Numerically the US can sustain basically infinite losses, yeah. Politically, though, it's like once a month there's a massive government-ruining loss where an entire division of Marines gets sunk or whatever. A negotiated peace could totally be in the cards this timeline, I feel, especially if 1945 rolls around and the Allies are still getting in horrible grinding battles and losing dozens of ships while not even near the Home Islands yet.
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How far did the raider fleet make it back? The endurance description picture lists their location as essentially still on station at the Kwajalin/Roi-namur islands... did they literally run out of gas during the attack and are waiting for a day or two until backup arrives? They are about half way between Rabaul and Pearl.
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The Republicans would win in 1944, take over in January 1945 and probably have a couple of years to fix things with a vastly expanded toolset, allies and sole focus on Japan. I think Japan would have to keep the massacres up until early 1947, through the fires and flames, to get a negotiated peace. There hasn't been extra reinforcements sent to the Pacific from the Atlantic in this timeline, so we should assume the European Theater is going as planned. With the nuclear bomb getting closer the US government would stall public opinion, figuring correctly that the entire world bearing down on Japan and nuclear weapons will solve things. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Mar 29, 2018 |
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I don't think it's a coincidence that both DDs sitting at 0 fuel are Kamikaze-class, while the other four all belong to the Mutsuki-class - though all of them should technically have the same (short) effective range. I'm harder pressed to explain why Yubari is also sitting at 0 fuel, and the others are very low, given all three light cruisers are rated at a range of nearly 1500nm (3,600nm vs. 5,000nm) greater than all the destroyers. Best guesses are fuel loss from that system damage, or Grey sent them out without a full load of fuel. Light cruiser oddities aside, this is kind of a good example of why you generally want to keep anything prior to the Fubuki-class off main battle fleet duties. Nothing from that class onwards has less than 4,000nm range, and most are sitting around 5,000nm (aside from the Akizuki-class sitting way up at 8,000nm).
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I guess they're going to have to hope their makeshift sails take them away from Allied occupied atolls.
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acidia posted:How far did the raider fleet make it back? The endurance description picture lists their location as essentially still on station at the Kwajalin/Roi-namur islands... did they literally run out of gas during the attack and are waiting for a day or two until backup arrives? They are about half way between Rabaul and Pearl. About 4 hexes. This was supposed to be a quick in and out raid on one or two task forces. the Commander apparently saw his chance for promotion and went all out. And now has no fuel.
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Grey Hunter posted:About 4 hexes. Anyone know what Captain Ban's aggression trait is? RA Rx posted:The Republicans would win in 1944, take over in January 1945 and probably have a couple of years to fix things with a vastly expanded toolset, allies and sole focus on Japan. I think Japan would have to keep the massacres up until early 1947, through the fires and flames, to get a negotiated peace. This was my thought as well. The Soviets getting involved in 1945 would risk seeing all of those China gains go poof, and the US would be swinging a huge number of combat veterans to the theater. And the Manhattan Project was in full swing at this point in the war, according to Wiki they'd already spent a billion 1943 dollars by the time of the Quebec Agreement and we're now 9 months after that date. So they knew the bomb was feasible, and with their air dominance would know that all they needed to do was wait until a Liberator could overfly the Battleship fleet and drop one bomb. Or nuke Tokyo. Or both.
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What's fun is that part of the reason the "Grey" Japan is doing so well is because the Japanese Army and Navy are actually working to coordinate with one another in this alt-timeline, making sure bases are staffed properly and land based planes work to cover our ships and raid the enemy, as opposed to real life where the Army and Navy spent most of the war trying to screw each other over and assassinate people in each others branches.  Going by this map of the Pacific in May 1944 we're doing pretty solid, the American's have taken a few islands, but we're still holding strong. True we've lost the Marshall's but made the American's pay a much higher price than they did IRL and with all of our raids we've turned that atoll into a massive ulcer for the Allies (especially losing a couple of carriers out in that area). IRL the Gilbert and Marshall Campaigns went a lot differently. That raid Grey launched which took down more than 6,000 allies, that's the number of men that were lost in the entire Marshall Islands campaign (a whole year of operations). The real standout has to be the Dutch East Indies theater. IRL again this area was problematic for the allies since it was at the end of their supply and logistics train, and even with a couple of years to build up, they would still need more islands to hold and build off of. With all the suicide raids on Rabul and our battleships being used effectively in this area (having air cover and concentrating on raiding alongside cruiser elements) we're pretty much leveraging every advantage we have and playing to each units strengths to its maximum.
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The Soviets are probably the real winners of all of this, unless the Japanese army in this timeline has the strength to hold them off a lot longer. I'm imagining they end up occupying all of Korea and get a zone in Japan.
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So how long will the resupply/refuel take? Also sorry on the lost DD.
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