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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
He's still at it

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felch me daddy jr.
Oct 30, 2009
https://twitter.com/TakedownMRAs/status/979487860997873666

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



ALRIGHT! I just woke up, Im tired and annoyed as hell, and I love the smell of trash fire in the morning so lets do this. Im making this post because not everyone is in a 101 group BUT it seems just about everyone needs 101 educating on this. This unfortunately isnt a topic that gets a lot of attention or that gets taken seriously enough in leftist spaces. And it definitely needs more advocates in these spaces. We're gonna be talking about fatphobia today and its gonna be a long one so loving strap in!

This is a Fat Activism post and here we center fat acceptance and fat voices with a priority to larger, more visibly fat folks' voices so keep that in mind. If they have to spoons and would like to, I also invite other fat activists to help educate on this post.

EVERYONE ELSE: I expect yall to learn here or at least try to. HOWEVER, keep in mind that larger folks have NO obligation to be kind or coddle feelings when talking about our oppression and likely wont (we're tired.) Alright, leggo!
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For those who don't know let me preface by saying, fatphobia is a form of OPPRRESSION that fat people face. "Skinny shaming" isnt actually a thing (its just recycled ablism and misogyny) and that fatphobia actually gets people killed in various ways including denial of care and ignoring of pain in lieu of blaming all woes on weight. Yes, including those that couldn't and wouldn't have anything to do with weight and issues that thin people have all get blamed on weight when a fat person expresses concern about them. There's no correlation between weight and health, weight and athleticism, or weight and worth.

Maybe its just the way my brain works cause I see everything in relation to and other forms of oppression parallell to my blackness but the way I see fat oppression is similar to how I see colorism. We are all oppressed but not in the same ways or in the same degrees. This is where the categorizations come in (ie: smallfat, midfat, largefat, and superfat.) These are distinctions set upon us by the oppressive society we live in and the purpose of using them in fat activism is to acknowledge the difference in privilege between smallfat and largefat people. Sure all fat people face oppression, and we should support everyone with their battle against fatphobia. But we also need to listen to largefat people who face things smaller people will never face.

When Larger fat people hyperbolize about smaller fat folks I hear similar things to when darker folks complain about light skin folk. Are darker folk wrong for being exasperated at lighter folk for how they perpetuate colorism? No. Is pointing out that being lighter gives you more leeway invalidating blackness? No. I see fat discourse the same way. Larger (fat discourse is moving more to visibility and using more visibly fat. Which I think is a good way to talk about look-isms) people always get the shorter end of the stick when it comes to fat-phobia. Smaller, less visibly fat folks can sometimes make themselves look like a thin person and blend in and essentially escape from the fat-phobia for a while while more visibly fat folks literally cannot even hope to do so. That doesn't invalidate smaller peoples fatness but we need to acknowledge that larger people experience things to a degree we don't and that in convos about fatness and fat-phobia we need to center them. But because fat-phobia is a form of oppression, fat activism does need to be gatekeepery in some regard. We have to be able to have convorsations about and amongst ourselves and educate others without those who have no idea what we face feeling entitled to chime in. Should it depend on exact sizing? hell no. Sizes do not necessarily describe how you are oppressed. Its actually pretty harmful and counter to the cause for a variety of other reasons. Also, in convorsations about fatphobia and fat acceptance it is NOT appropriate to being up your ED or ND in an effort to speak over us and center yourself. Beleive it or not, a lot of us have EDs and NDs as well and yet we STILL spend our time trying to educate you on our oppression. But because we are fat, when we have EDs, we will rarely ever get treatment. Even and especially for REDs (which fat folks suffer in alrarming rates.)

But, you know how fat you are based on how and how much fat-phobia effects you; Someone who can’t shop at most plus size stores because the clothes are still too small, can’t fit in booths or other types of seating, uses seatbelt extenders, etc would generally be largefat/superfat, if you’re not struggling with ANY of the issues above or even close to it, then smallfat. If you’re bordering on those things but aren’t quite there, midfat. It sucks that it has to be this way but society treats us differently depending on how fat we are and its important to be mindful of and acknowledge that. If you don't face the ugly vehemently hateful of you side of fat-phobia, you cant really speak about it right? This is why larger again more visibly fat folks have to be centered and have to take priority, much the way black folks should be in discussions of racism and colorism. Us smaller folks have to sit down and stop centering ourselves and our feelings. We have to center the voices of those effected by it the most. We need to LISTEN.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

uh outside of it being ya'know fiction the wizarding world outlawed the use of the killing curse to a life sentence in hell prison

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

The Jon Jones dilemma.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/979542414749831168?s=20

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

loving surface of the sun take there.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

I'm not even sure what the gently caress point he thinks he's making here. Slavery was good? Socialism is slavery?

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Trig Discipline posted:

I'm not even sure what the gently caress point he thinks he's making here. Slavery was good? Socialism is slavery?

I think he's saying that free shelter, food, healthcare, employments were only possible in the past due to slavery (i.e. were bad), and so white men fought to end them.

LawfulWaffle
Mar 11, 2014

Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

Trig Discipline posted:

I'm not even sure what the gently caress point he thinks he's making here. Slavery was good? Socialism is slavery?

https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/979069731092271104

and

https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/978696844606935040
https://twitter.com/Hiraghm/status/978722067393732609

e: I guess the explanation is that he's just a dumb man

LawfulWaffle has a new favorite as of 13:11 on Mar 30, 2018

Wendell
May 11, 2003

Unless your cell phone is a....printing press?? What point is this making?

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

This is the kinda take that should just automatically ban you from everything ever.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


But not everyone had those free things? It was only a select group of people who weren't white. Unless they're advocating slavery for all?

I can see it now. Walmart having dormitories in each store so their slaves can get off the 20 hour shift to get their 4 hours of sleep, fed only by gruel from the cafeteria with a doctor on site who decides whether it's worth giving medicine or taking them out back old yeller style.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013





This is the same guy that was very much upset when a character changed her hairstyle between Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2, right?

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

that guy is a real poo poo bomb

Serf
May 5, 2011


Len posted:

But not everyone had those free things? It was only a select group of people who weren't white. Unless they're advocating slavery for all?

I can see it now. Walmart having dormitories in each store so their slaves can get off the 20 hour shift to get their 4 hours of sleep, fed only by gruel from the cafeteria with a doctor on site who decides whether it's worth giving medicine or taking them out back old yeller style.

this is pretty much the trajectory we're on right now anyways

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Len posted:

But not everyone had those free things? It was only a select group of people who weren't white. Unless they're advocating slavery for all?

I can see it now. Walmart having dormitories in each store so their slaves can get off the 20 hour shift to get their 4 hours of sleep, fed only by gruel from the cafeteria with a doctor on site who decides whether it's worth giving medicine or taking them out back old yeller style.

There was a time in the US when some people had millions of dollars and could have or get whatever they want. But then unions had to ruin everything, and we ended CEOs taking all the money in the world.

But seriously, his poo poo take is that "Slavery was good for the slave cause you got everything you wanted for free!"

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Len posted:

But not everyone had those free things? It was only a select group of people who weren't white. Unless they're advocating slavery for all?

I can see it now. Walmart having dormitories in each store so their slaves can get off the 20 hour shift to get their 4 hours of sleep, fed only by gruel from the cafeteria with a doctor on site who decides whether it's worth giving medicine or taking them out back old yeller style.

I think the point is that the slaves were fed, housed, employed &c - that slavery was good for slaves.

Inco
Apr 3, 2009

I have been working out! My modem is broken and my phone eats half the posts I try to make, including all the posts I've tried to make here. I'll try this one more time.

Serperoth posted:

This is the same guy that was very much upset when a character changed her hairstyle between Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2, right?

That was Luzarius, another weirdo who got mocked on SA and then fled to a long-dead subreddit and posted a huge effort post about how "not mad" he was. He refused to play Dragon Age: Inquisition because the way one of the companions looked was different, and he, quote, wasn't "going to be motivated to beat the game iron man if Cassandra's face is mannish." His whole shtick appears to be playing single-player RPGs, never dying, and complaining if literally not every woman in the game is a sex object. He posted on the Witcher 3 official forums requesting a patch or mod that allowed him to give every female character model in the game gigantic tits. He's almost a parody.

maswastaken
Nov 12, 2011

Sounds like some kind of Nexus elemental that lost his way back home.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Sounds like he picked the first two syllables of his username correctly.

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Inco posted:

That was Luzarius, another weirdo who got mocked on SA and then fled to a long-dead subreddit and posted a huge effort post about how "not mad" he was. He refused to play Dragon Age: Inquisition because the way one of the companions looked was different, and he, quote, wasn't "going to be motivated to beat the game iron man if Cassandra's face is mannish." His whole shtick appears to be playing single-player RPGs, never dying, and complaining if literally not every woman in the game is a sex object. He posted on the Witcher 3 official forums requesting a patch or mod that allowed him to give every female character model in the game gigantic tits. He's almost a parody.

I found someone like this a few days back on Imgur, in the comments of a post with just this image:



Kyron
Aug 6, 2013

Ularg posted:

I found someone like this a few days back on Imgur, in the comments of a post with just this image:





Idiots on Social Media: Soak Her in Hot Water First or Something

Ularg
Mar 2, 2010

Just tell me I'm exotic.

Bath Tubs posted:

Idiots on Social Media: Soak Her in Hot Water First or Something

Idiots on Social Media: Shame cuz that corpse got a nice tummy

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



"Who is messaging the farm in the middle of the night...oh"


Using real living animals as photography props for rich white children was better than anything my mind was jumping to at least.


I'm leaving the name of the company because PICTURETAKERS is just too good. I should have offered to send them my adult goat buck. He pisses all over himself and gets boners constantly but they would get the real goat experience.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Instant Jellyfish posted:

He pisses all over himself and gets boners constantly

Don't doxx me, tia

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Authentic Goat Experience, really smell the goat piss.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

sneakyfrog posted:

yeah he is totally bullying those poor gun lobbyists.

:rolleyes:

e: lol PHD in theology, only slightly more valid than a doctorate in cryptozoology
I think he means that the school shooter was bullied which I still can't find any real evidence of (he made death threats towards other students as early as middleschool and the school seemed to bend over backwards to help him with his issues even though they all seemed terrified of him) but that's what people always say about school shooters though it's very rarely true. I'll bet that all of those people attacking the students would not have liked it if their kid befriended and brought home that weirdo, loner kid who constantly threatens people because he doesn't understand human emotions. I would have added incredibly racist and homophobic but I suspect that these people don't mind that.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Wendell posted:

Unless your cell phone is a....printing press?? What point is this making?

If the last two tweets are connected, I'm assuming it's a counterpoint to the suggestion that contemporary US legislation does not accurately reflect the spirit of the second amendment, a document from the time of frontloader muskets and flintlock pistols. From there it follows that one should only access social media via a telegraph station. I can't reproduce the intermediary steps, but I assume there's some advanced IoSM moon logic at play.

E:

Sarcopenia posted:

I think he means that the school shooter was bullied which I still can't find any real evidence of (he made death threats towards other students as early as middleschool and the school seemed to bend over backwards to help him with his issues even though they all seemed terrified of him) but that's what people always say about school shooters though it's very rarely true. I'll bet that all of those people attacking the students would not have liked it if their kid befriended and brought home that weirdo, loner kid who constantly threatens people because he doesn't understand human emotions. I would have added incredibly racist and homophobic but I suspect that these people don't mind that.

I have my doubts that David Hogg was using his status as a school shooting survivor to bully Cruz.

Zulily Zoetrope has a new favorite as of 15:55 on Mar 30, 2018

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Instant Jellyfish posted:

"Who is messaging the farm in the middle of the night...oh"


Using real living animals as photography props for rich white children was better than anything my mind was jumping to at least.


I'm leaving the name of the company because PICTURETAKERS is just too good. I should have offered to send them my adult goat buck. He pisses all over himself and gets boners constantly but they would get the real goat experience.

It's a lovely rainy day and I'm really tired, so this is probably just my brain not firing on all cylinders, but I'm not getting where the idiocy is.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



Sunswipe posted:

It's a lovely rainy day and I'm really tired, so this is probably just my brain not firing on all cylinders, but I'm not getting where the idiocy is.

Live animals are not props, it is actually illegal to use many types of animals as props without inspection and licensing by the USDA. Photographers are not farmers and have no experience in keeping livestock (which are constantly trying to die) alive. Baby animals need to stay with their moms.

If she had asked to come to my farm and photograph kids with the babies that would be ok but you can't just rent a real living thing to pose nicely for 2 days.

Edit: here's what can go wrong

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

I shouldn't have clicked that.

:mad:

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

One commenter: “Babies even if they aren’t human still feel pain”.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Instant Jellyfish posted:

I'm leaving the name of the company because PICTURETAKERS is just too good. I should have offered to send them my adult goat buck. He pisses all over himself and gets boners constantly but they would get the real goat experience.

Nah, you save the horny piss goat for the Halloween corn maze.

PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.

Bath Tubs posted:

Idiots on Social Media: Soak Her in Hot Water First or Something

And here I thought I had weird thoughts on baptism for the dead :)

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Sarcopenia posted:

I think he means that the school shooter was bullied which I still can't find any real evidence of (he made death threats towards other students as early as middleschool and the school seemed to bend over backwards to help him with his issues even though they all seemed terrified of him) but that's what people always say about school shooters though it's very rarely true. I'll bet that all of those people attacking the students would not have liked it if their kid befriended and brought home that weirdo, loner kid who constantly threatens people because he doesn't understand human emotions. I would have added incredibly racist and homophobic but I suspect that these people don't mind that.

Nah. That's in reference to the "apology" Laura Ingraham made because advertisers were leaving her show.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Instant Jellyfish posted:

Live animals are not props, it is actually illegal to use many types of animals as props without inspection and licensing by the USDA. Photographers are not farmers and have no experience in keeping livestock (which are constantly trying to die) alive. Baby animals need to stay with their moms.

If she had asked to come to my farm and photograph kids with the babies that would be ok but you can't just rent a real living thing to pose nicely for 2 days.

Edit: here's what can go wrong

Ah, gotcha. Obvious in hindsight, but not something I'd ever thought about.

This Is the Zodiac
Feb 4, 2003

Picnic Princess posted:

I can tell you this is a lie. I grew up with the person who posted this and there were a ton of stunts shown on t.v. in the 90s that did in fact say that. We watched them together.
"Beavis and Butt-Head are not role models. They're not even human, they're cartoons. Some of the things they do could cause a person to get hurt, expelled, arrested, possibly deported."

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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My Twitter Account posted:

"Beavis and Butt-Head are not role models. They're not even human, they're cartoons. Some of the things they do could cause a person to get hurt, expelled, arrested, possibly deported."

I know this is probably :thejoke:, but the next line you left out was literally "In other words, don't try this at home"


Which was such an old familiar phrase by 1990 as to be tongue-in-cheek

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