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Yardbomb posted:Pretty much, the FIND YER DAD plot point in FO3 was forgettable and the one highlight was the "Son, we're gonna have to have a talk about nuking that city later!" line. FO4's whole YER FAMILY plot had a lot more problems than being forgettable though, the exact opposite even was one of them, because it was hard to go too long before some dialogue or another would have SHAUN?! coming out of your mouth again, plus the "This is your loving wife and potato baby" to "poo poo THE BOMBS ARE DROPPIN" thing like 10 minutes apart and expecting you to care at all. it's a bad match, locking the player in a protracted tutorial level for an open world game is torture, but dumping the character in the action right away doesn't give any time to sell the player on why they should care about their starting family beyond like, the cheapest emotional strings
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One thing I find, I hate when the fallout games get too scifi, and it's something that annoyed me in FO4. The whole synths and Institute thing as the main plot didn't sit well with me since they felt like Bethesda was just throwing in ever more extravagant sci-fi elements without regard for the post apocalyptic core of the series. It's like they wanted to tell a kind of blade runner-esque story but didn't want to go through the trouble of making a new game so might as well put it in the fallout games right? I think it undermines the vauled sense of decay and grunginess of the universe when you have super high tech facilities that could have been retro 50s Apple headquarters and seemingly barely effected by a drat nuclear apocalypse. Back in older games you had out there things like the Master's forces or the Big MT but in those cases they really did feel like you could see the decay and chaos that the war and the decades since had wrought, things like the visibly degenerated appearance and behaviour of the Big MT scientists and facilities or the crude, messed up look of the Master and his minions.
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Also hey H.bomb, your mutual friend the Prison Man is lying and saying he made that Sinclair Brodcasting local news propaganda script expose video that's been sweeping the internet lately https://twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/980468230547476480 Did his diarrhea blackout soy pills make him do it? Sounds like this calls for an investigation.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:It baffles me Bethesda keeps trying to do this personal family-drama nonsense in Fallout when the appeal has always been being a silent protagonist exploring a foreign land. And then Fallout 4 is like oh man we’re a happy family la dee da customize yourself and your spouse and go after your hideous potato baby Shaaaaaun shuh shuh Shaaaaaaaaaaaun here start playing the game 45 minutes later Meanwhile in Fallout NV the game starts with you bursting out of a grave, a couple of lines from a doctor and here have this hat and this gun go be a cowboy PEW PEW PTCHOO and it’s considered the best modern Fallout
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See, I like the idea of the town building but it feels like it should be used in a game about settling a frontier. If they want to do that kind of thing set the game in a spot where humanity hasn't lived a long time. Maybe have a central hub or two town and you build up a handful (but they'd actually need you know memorable NPCs and such to make it work.)
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Calaveron posted:Fallout 3 is OH HEY YOU’RE A BABY DOING BABY THINGS LISTEN TO ALL THESE WORDS WE MADE LIAM NEESON SAY BECAUSE HE CHARGES A FLAT RATE INSTEAD OF PER LINE AND WE WANNA GET OUR MONEY’S WORTH an hour later here you’re a person go play the actual game also lol our DLC completely negates the theme the ending was going for because everyone agreed it was incredibly stupid and senseless I would like to plug OSW's review of Fatal Deviation because I've watched like three reviews of this loving film in the last month and this one is still a cracker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1pBKOIakYE
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sexpig by night posted:I'm really glad we in the nerd community are moving away from 'hur hur wrestling is fake idiots' to actually talking about how this poo poo is just anime/soap operas done live because there's so much more crazy/silly poo poo to talk about than the most obvious cheap takes. At a con this weekend I overheard a conversation about how "Wrestling is redneck anime," and basically, yeah.
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Mokinokaro posted:See, I like the idea of the town building but it feels like it should be used in a game about settling a frontier. If fallout 4's settlement thing had basically just been a more in depth version of the Fallout Shelter mobile game it would have been way better.
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The only good game is GORF.
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sexpig by night posted:I'm really glad we in the nerd community are moving away from 'hur hur wrestling is fake idiots' to actually talking about how this poo poo is just anime/soap operas done live because there's so much more crazy/silly poo poo to talk about than the most obvious cheap takes.
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lornekates posted:The only good game is Dig Dug.
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Todd has a new One Hit Wonderland on Butthole Surfers (yes, that's the real band name and it tells you everything you need to know about them) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIjE8R_j5h4 I don't think we truly appreciate how strange and "of its time" the 90s alt rock scene really was. You'll never hear poo poo like this make it on the radio today.
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I have a friend and occasional jam partner who twice ran into the Butthole Surfers, and both times consisted of complete and total debauchery with enough drink to level a room of Russian navvies and every drug from weed right on up to heroin. They sounded like pretty swell dudes. EDIT: They also got their name by letting a crowd judge suggestions, until one of them jokingly said the Butthole Surfers and everyone cheered. Todd might say that in the video mind
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Benne posted:Todd has a new One Hit Wonderland on Butthole Surfers (yes, that's the real band name and it tells you everything you need to know about them) It was amazing. There's a lot about the 90s that's decidedly not good in retrospect, but the MTV era was the crossing point between the modern state of being where every subculture can find its own impossibly small niche and radio as the absolute monolith of culture in the pre-cable era. It was wild, and we'll never see it again.
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Gibby Haynes is a national treasure and we should let him ding a ding dang his dang a long ling long till the end of time
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Fallout 4 suffers from diminishing returns since it's the fifth Gamebryo starting from Oblivion. It's a marginal improvement on prior titles but it's not innovative at all. You can pick up any object you find but that fluff doesn't cut it anymore. You can build your own house, at the expense of there being few towns in the game and there being no real purpose to the building system. lies
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Kim Justice posted:I have a friend and occasional jam partner who twice ran into the Butthole Surfers, and both times consisted of complete and total debauchery with enough drink to level a room of Russian navvies and every drug from weed right on up to heroin. They sounded like pretty swell dudes. I'm more shocked at how old Butthole Surfers are. They were already 15 years into their career when Pepper hit  This is one of those bands I was vaguely aware of, mostly through my older brother and his friends (who were aaaaalllll in on 90s alt rock), but I didn't really remember Pepper until watching Todd's video and the chorus kicked in. Then the memories flooded back.
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FoldableHuman posted:It was amazing. Headbangers Ball remains a cherished memory for me, even if most of the bands were probably poo poo in retrospect.
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Witcher 3 should be the foundation of all future ARPG's. I think the developer had to run a lovely work environment to pump out that quality, though. You could go at the game like a Souls thing and dodge/parry your way to glory or lean into the mechanics and have a much more manageable experience. Over a hundred hours of gameplay but the main quest is a quarter of that for tourists.
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FoldableHuman posted:It was amazing. I've heard peers of mine say they wish they were born in the 60's or the 80's or whatever because they wanted the experience of that decade rather than the remains. No, I'd say growing up the 90's was actually pretty drat fun, at least music wise. There was like, three or four months there where ska was just everywhere for some reason and I never really understood why. Benne posted:I'm more shocked at how old Butthole Surfers are. They were already 15 years into their career when Pepper hit I'm not sure if I ever heard of Pepper before, but man, Jingle of a Dog's Collar, that was on one of my cousins mix tapes and I never knew it was by the Butthole Surfers so I literally haven't heard it in decades. Had to pause the video due to the nostalgia rush.
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Benne posted:Todd has a new One Hit Wonderland on Butthole Surfers (yes, that's the real band name and it tells you everything you need to know about them) That was a real nostalgia trip! I never got around to checking out their other stuff, but I loved my copy of Electriclarryland. It's such a bizarre mix of styles. Jingle of a Dog's Collar is such a weird followup. I always got a creepy bestiality vibe from it, so I wonder if they picked it just to try to avoid any further mainstreamish hits. There's other songs on the album that could have worked if they were actually trying to get success.
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pr0p posted:Witcher 3 should be the foundation of all future ARPG's. I think the developer had to run a lovely work environment to pump out that quality, though. Witcher 3 would have cost an impossible amount if they made it in a country where you have to actually pay your workers
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I've heard peers of mine say they wish they were born in the 60's or the 80's or whatever because they wanted the experience of that decade rather than the remains. I'll never forget the inexplicable swing music revival of the late 90s. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy performed at the Super Bowl during that time, and good luck explaining to younger people how that happened if you weren't there.
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Benne posted:I'll never forget the inexplicable swing music revival of the late 90s. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy performed at the Super Bowl during that time, and good luck explaining to younger people how that happened if you weren't there. Are you sure that wasn't Cherry Poppin' Daddies?
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Benne posted:I'll never forget the inexplicable swing music revival of the late 90s. Big Bad Voodoo Daddy performed at the Super Bowl during that time, and good luck explaining to younger people how that happened if you weren't there. I still enjoy some Squirrel Nut Zippers from time to time.
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Calaveron posted:Fallout 3 is OH HEY YOU’RE A BABY DOING BABY THINGS LISTEN TO ALL THESE WORDS WE MADE LIAM NEESON SAY BECAUSE HE CHARGES A FLAT RATE INSTEAD OF PER LINE AND WE WANNA GET OUR MONEY’S WORTH an hour later here you’re a person go play the actual game also lol our DLC completely negates the theme the ending was going for because everyone agreed it was incredibly stupid and senseless I remember when Fallout 3 came out and people like Yahtzee and the Extra Credits guy were like "OH MAN THE OPENING IS SO IMMERSIVE AND COOL".
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Mokinokaro posted:See, I like the idea of the town building but it feels like it should be used in a game about settling a frontier. It sounds like you could swap around a bunch of parts of Fallout 4 and Mass Effect Andromeda and improve both in the process.
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Well, here it is folks. It's April 2nd. If you're Mike Michaud, this will not be a good day. Presenting a record of events while working for TGWTG. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZFkR__B3Mk9EYQglvislMUx9HWvWhOaBP820UBa4dA/preview The document is very long. There's a condensed version linked at the start. EDIT: Mike Michaud is a vile scumfuck. Kim Justice fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Apr 2, 2018 |
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corn in the bible posted:Witcher 3 would have cost an impossible amount if they made it in a country where you have to actually pay your workers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fC2JUzS7SU a look at the weird alternate history universe that we call Ford Australia
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Alaois posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fC2JUzS7SU I will forever have a soft spot for lovely falcons. Bless those cars.
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pr0p posted:Witcher 3 should be the foundation of all future ARPG's. I think the developer had to run a lovely work environment to pump out that quality, though. Anyhoo the CA document is here, so that will be a nice basis for 4.0. 
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CDPR also gets massive art grants and tax breaks from the Polish government. Someone did the math and estimated the game would cost 2-3x as much to make in most of North America.
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Terrible Opinions posted:So why does the US have issues making those sort of games? They wanna spend 10x the game's development budget on marketing.
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Kim Justice posted:Well, here it is folks. It's April 2nd. If you're Mike Michaud, this will not be a good day. Presenting a record of events while working for TGWTG. Jesus loving Christ that Dr. Gonzo section. Michaud trying to monetize Justin Carmical's suicide while simultaneously bullying the hell out of someone trying to help. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Apr 2, 2018 |
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Benne posted:Todd has a new One Hit Wonderland on Butthole Surfers (yes, that's the real band name and it tells you everything you need to know about them) I an definitely believe that people accused the Butthole Surfers of ripping off Beck. I thought Pepper was a Beck song until about 6 months ago when I tried to look up the lyrics because the chorus was stuck in my head
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Arcsquad12 posted:Jesus loving Christ that Dr. Gonzo section. Michaud trying to monetize Justin Carmical suicide. That's some flat out devilish poo poo.
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I thought that Michaud was just a douche that was incapable of interacting with people. He is so much worse; like he's a gigantic sociopath.
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FoldableHuman posted:It was amazing. The 90s rock era was also likely born from a change in accounting - Billboard switched from calling big record stores and asking what sold the most to actually counting album sales with Soundscan. Not surprisingly, the former method was prone to fudged numbers, and the new system at first disproportionately was counting album sales on the west coast, which thrust bands with local followings like Nirvana enough on to the chart to get national attention. The entire pop industry got caught with their pants down; several "hit" albums vanished off the charts and the big labels scrambled to land alternative acts while they figured out how to properly game the new system. They eventually figured it out (and eventually figured out the pop formula for alt rock to relegate it to mediocrity), but in the meantime it did result in some fun and weird songs bubbling to the surface along the way.
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I don't know much about the Butthole Surfers, but I do know that the album art for Electriclarryland is the ugliest I've ever seen (which was probably their intention so good job guys).
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