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Ytlaya posted:I actually find her feelings here a bit hard to relate to, since my personal experience with being a depressed/anxious teenager consisted of constantly idolizing the possibility of a happy future in a different environment. Like I would constantly be imagining how future plan X would be the thing that would finally make me happy, whether it was college or graduate school or post-college work or whatever. "Things are doomed to always be bad" seems to be the sort of thing that would be the result of living a much longer time and having your hopes crushed repeatedly, and teenagers are too young to have that experience. Depression and mental states definitely vary from person to person. I grew up in a super sheltered home where I wasn't allowed to see friends outside of school, wasn't really allowed to go out on my own or any social life. It was just study all the time because that's "all I needed" and I didn't need anything like friends or stuff like that; according to my parents. So when it came to college I went through the motions of applying because that's what I told to do but I had no ambitions of my own and no real hopes or dreams about my future. Its hard to have those when you're not given the chance to develop them on your own. My issues aside Aya's seem to stem from her constantly hearing everyone else thoughts and ideas and never trusting her own thoughts as hers and not something she's adopted from someone else.
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Revolver Bunker posted:This is an all too real feeling. I swear to god if she goes to university in the next arc, struggles immensely with both grades and purpose, and then is spit out into an uncaring job market then I might as well sue for not getting rights to my life. Honestly, not having any reason to go to uni is a good enough reason not to go.
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I imagine she's got some "I know what buttons to push, how do I know I'm not unfairly manipulating people with every action I take? What would I have done naturally, if I didn't know their thoughts?" going on.
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Mar 27, 2018 23:30
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Mar 28, 2018 17:23
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Mar 28, 2018 18:11
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Terper posted:
Oh good, she's literally me 
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Mar 28, 2018 18:17
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Mar 28, 2018 18:25
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Mar 28, 2018 19:04
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Toda is a nice responsible young man.
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Mar 28, 2018 19:26
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Aya is having a nervous breakdown in slow motion and as someone who just had one of those a couple weeks ago it's real rough
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Mar 28, 2018 20:18
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Poor Aya. This really is too real.
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Mar 28, 2018 20:26
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This poo poo is turning into a Tears for Fears song really quick and dammit if it ain't really hitting in the heart in the process ;_;
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Mar 28, 2018 20:36
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 Lot of words there Toda, too bad its not sweet nothings but the cold hard truth.
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Mar 29, 2018 17:36
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Mar 29, 2018 17:57
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Toda's a good boy He is, and he's being honest with her about the prospects of the group staying together. Not so good for his prospects of dating her though.
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Mar 29, 2018 17:59
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Doesn't it kind of depend how far they're going for university? Like even if the universities are different, if they're in the same or nearby cities it's not exactly a big deal.
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Ytlaya posted:Doesn't it kind of depend how far they're going for university? Like even if the universities are different, if they're in the same or nearby cities it's not exactly a big deal. In my experience, it was a challenge for a few HS friends to keep relationships going even if the university was close by. Completely doable, but it imposes some additional complications even for established couples.
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Mar 29, 2018 18:21
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aya doesn't think anyone will be her friend unless they are required by law to be in the same room as her several days a week.
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Mar 29, 2018 18:25
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On the other hand, if you start university off with heartbreak and social isolation on top of anxiety, you'll have a lot of free time to make up for the GPA lost to depression.
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Ytlaya posted:Doesn't it kind of depend how far they're going for university? Like even if the universities are different, if they're in the same or nearby cities it's not exactly a big deal. It's real easy to drift apart even when you are in school in the same area as you start to move further down your curriculum. Especially since Toda is going into Medicine and I barely saw the friends I made at College who went into the Pharmaceutical field. The problem here is Aya is intimidated by making new friends and she wants her current group to stay together going into the future; but reality is that for many reasons, people who are close may see each other less and less as time goes on. Right now Aya's got to get over that realization because she can't cling to just one group of friends for comfort as time goes on. Doesn't mean she'll lose her friends and confidants, but she'll need to be able to forge new bonds and maintain some longer distance relationships with her other friends.
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Brought To You By posted:It's real easy to drift apart even when you are in school in the same area as you start to move further down your curriculum. Especially since Toda is going into Medicine and I barely saw the friends I made at College who went into the Pharmaceutical field. The problem here is Aya is intimidated by making new friends and she wants her current group to stay together going into the future; but reality is that for many reasons, people who are close may see each other less and less as time goes on. This poo poo ruined me early in my College experience. At the end of year 2, suddenly all my HS friends changed programs, went abroad, or moved. It was jarring as hell to suddenly be so alone.
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I can relate, even when I went to the same university as my high school friends, most of us weren't even in the same major and on top of me being pretty lovely at maintaining communication even in this day and age, I just ended up not seeing them or talking to them as much by virtue of just having different studies and different things going on in our lives.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:aya doesn't think anyone will be her friend unless they are required by law to be in the same room as her several days a week. 
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Mar 29, 2018 18:53
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I learned in college the most important lesson: I'm garbage at taking to strangers in a non professional setting. Follow manaaaaaaaaaaaa to college THANKS
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:aya doesn't think anyone will be her friend unless they are required by law to be in the same room as her several days a week. That's kinda true though, it's like the biggest reason why it's so difficult to make friends when you're older.
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Ytlaya posted:I actually find her feelings here a bit hard to relate to, since my personal experience with being a depressed/anxious teenager consisted of constantly idolizing the possibility of a happy future in a different environment. Like I would constantly be imagining how future plan X would be the thing that would finally make me happy, whether it was college or graduate school or post-college work or whatever. "Things are doomed to always be bad" seems to be the sort of thing that would be the result of living a much longer time and having your hopes crushed repeatedly, and teenagers are too young to have that experience. This post has me wondering if I’m depressed.
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Virtue posted:This post has me wondering if I’m depressed. Like other people mentioned after that post, I think it depends heavily on a person's specific experiences. My outlook may have been influenced by the fact that I always felt like I was kinda-sorta close to achieving the conditions necessary to be happy, so maybe that's what lead to me constantly thinking maybe some change to my lifestyle would help. I still had a social life, even if it wasn't the exact one I wanted, and there were girls who were interested in me, even if they weren't the girls I was interested in, so this probably contributed to a feeling that those things were still possible. I never really experienced being completely isolated and bullied or anything as a teen, so I can understand why someone having that sort of experience might not feel as optimistic about a change in environment helping.
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Mar 29, 2018 22:42
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panel 3 ayaface is not getting enough credit imo.
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Mar 30, 2018 00:06
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Mar 30, 2018 17:18
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But still suggestive 
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Mar 30, 2018 17:22
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That's a pretty sweet fantasy Toda's having. You know, being able to buy a motorcycle while in university.
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Mar 30, 2018 17:39
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ayako substitutes her own images over other people's thoughts, but it's accurate in this case because toda keeps making motorcycle revving sounds in his mind
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Mar 30, 2018 17:44
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....Happy go lucky University Romance Live Action when?
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Mar 30, 2018 17:54
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I needed a big dose of sugar like that to clear up all those negative pages.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:I needed a big dose of sugar like that to clear up all those negative pages. It's gonna be a short breath, the drowning will continue
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Mar 30, 2018 23:16
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Eldercain posted:It's gonna be a short breath, the drowning will continue 
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Mar 30, 2018 23:19
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Apr 2, 2018 19:21
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anemoia - n. nostalgia for a time you've never known
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kidcoelacanth posted:
A bit of a sudden time to end the manga, but this is a lovely epilogue
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kidcoelacanth posted:
Not sure of the exact timeline but it probably is at least a week after the school festival. Mana possibly already told him about by now, or Sano might have shared it with Toda.
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