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Alien Rope Burn posted:What is it like to still be a Valve fan these days? It must hurt so much. My group just wants Left 4 Dead 3 to relive our glory days without playing an 8 year old game   Sounds like a rad Paranoia adventure.
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You've got several days left of the r6 pandemic mission.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:My group just wants Left 4 Dead 3 to relive our glory days without playing an 8 year old game I hear Vermintide 2 might be what you want.
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Apr 2, 2018 15:59
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slap me and kiss me posted:You've got several days left of the r6 pandemic mission. Subjunctive posted:I hear Vermintide 2 might be what you want. Both of these are terrible. Some of the group like VT but I find them both awfully boring. The real fun in L4D was Versus mode.
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Apr 2, 2018 16:20
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The real answer is to just play r6 ranked with a full squad of 5.
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slap me and kiss me posted:The real answer is to just play r6 ranked with a full squad of 5. We've been doing that since release, with the slow succumbing to people falling out of the game. We're lucky to get five at all. Siege is also a much different animal than VS between a group of friends.
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slap me and kiss me posted:The real answer is to just play r6 ranked with a full squad of 5. i bought the starter set for R6 and there's no way to convert that to the full version of the game without spending a loving obscene amount of money. 
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Sion posted:i bought the starter set for R6 and there's no way to convert that to the full version of the game without spending a loving obscene amount of money. The Starter Edition is a complete scam and I wish a bigger deal was made of it.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:The Starter Edition is a complete scam and I wish a bigger deal was made of it. yeah pretty much. like- it was 15 bucks at the time, and there's no route to convert to the full kit. seeing as how the full kit is now super cheap I feel pretty fuckin' cheated.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:The Starter Edition is a complete scam and I wish a bigger deal was made of it. At the time where they launched it the main game was $60 occasionally discounted to $45, so a $15 ultra-grindy edition where you can buy $45-50 of Clancybux to unlock the basic operators was fine. The problem is that now the base game routinely goes down to $25 or lower and there's still no upgrade path from starter, and their response to people wanting that was to just give a couple more random operators to people who bought the starter edition after the start of March (but not existing starter edition owners), which loving sucks.
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Lemon-Lime posted:At the time where they launched it the main game was $60 occasionally discounted to $45, so a $15 ultra-grindy edition where you can buy $45-50 of Clancybux to unlock the basic operators was fine. Yeah. This whole thing has soured me on Rainbow Six loving hard. Like- I am amazed that a bigger deal isn't made out of what a loving sham the starter edition is.
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So we don't have grogs.txt anymore, and this definitely isn't Industry, so I give you um ... this. http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?623152-When-Fantasy-meets-Medieval-Europe "Elves come from "West over the Sea" in other words they are native to North America, they have discovered Europe in this setting rather than the Europeans discovering America, as of 1100 AD, this hasn't happened yet. Dwarves live in underground kingdoms in the various mountain ranges of Europe. Orcs come from the Asian steppe. Halflings and Gnomes come from South America. Half-elves and half-orcs are created from the Union of elves and humans in the first case and orcs and humans in the second."
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Apr 2, 2018 20:57
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Isn't that Warhammer Fantasy lol. Like the dark elves are in Canada and poo poo. Also I had an idea for a Chinese history + fantasy setting and I wanted elves to be the rear end in a top hat equivalent of the English and French during the Century of Humiliation
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Yeah, one of the big sticking points is that the dude is basically using some real-world religions and cultures, while completely eradicating - say - steppe nomads, and replacing them with orcs. And it gets more and more crazy as the thread goes on, because the dude is completely insistent on using Christianity, Judaism and Islam. quote:1) D&D is based on Medieval folklore and fairy tales. Cool map tho.
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dwarf74 posted:So we don't have grogs.txt anymore, and this definitely isn't Industry, so I give you um ... this.
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oh I didn't know they were making a Bright licensed RPG
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It just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. Okay so Mars and Venus are still around, and their respective planets are all still full of people who worship them.quote:Because Venus and Mars have large populations of humans that worship these two deities, they are still active. People on Earth who still worship Venus and Mars, usually keep that fact a secret, lest they be burned as witches, this is true in central and southern Europe and in the Middle East, in Scandinavia, this is tolerated a bit more as that region is still in transition from paganism to Christianity. Lots of bloodlust and warfare still keep the god of war going, even if they are fighting over Christian causes. In some respects, one can say, they God of War managed to subvert the Christian Crusade against Islam, by getting the Crusaders more interested in looting and pillaging than in conversions! Mars loves battle for its own sake, he doesn't care about the underlying reason for the conflict! Venus is much the same but with love, she finds Priest's Monk's vows and chastity a bit of a challenge for her, and she loves to test their faith! Sometimes clerics of Venus and Mars will masquerade as Catholic Priests to advance their true devotions, these pagan deities will grant their spells, thus allowing them to blend in with their true believers.
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Blockhouse posted:oh I didn't know they were making a Bright licensed RPG Bright didn't substitute nonwhites for fantasy people!!! dwarf74 posted:It just keeps going deeper and deeper and deeper. Okay so Mars and Venus are still around, and their respective planets are all still full of people who worship them. This actually rules lmao. Astrology is cool.
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Everything in European history unfolds as we know it, despite the fact that even before my Native American Elves start sailing in with plate armor and caravels, priests and druids can summon infinite food and cast wish, and there're entire nations of people living under mountain ranges and poo poo like that. Truly, I am the verisimilitudiest. EDIT: Haha gently caress quote:
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Apr 2, 2018 21:33
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Ahh. The culture where when they introduced legal surnames everyone wanted to give themselves one that tied them to Temujin are certainly ashamed of their past.
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That Old Tree posted:Everything in European history unfolds as we know it, despite the fact that even before my Native American Elves start sailing in with plate armor and caravels, priests and druids can summon infinite food and cast wish, and there're entire nations of people living under mountain ranges and poo poo like that. Does this guy ever think about what it would be like if his ancestors were portrayed by orcs or some other fantasy race associated with evil? He can bring up Genghis Khan all he wants, but Europeans probably did more terrible stuff than the Mongols did.
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Apr 2, 2018 21:59
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Pagan Scandinavia, noted worshippers of Venus and Mars
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Ahh. The culture where when they introduced legal surnames everyone wanted to give themselves one that tied them to Temujin are certainly ashamed of their past. There's a trillion Genghis statues and places named after him in Mongolia
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That thread starts side-eye crazy, transitions into absolute crazy, transitions further into shithead crazy, apparently involves the holocaust in a bit that got deleted, and ends with me noting that it took until page 13 for someone to point out "hey you're kinda claiming that all non-Europeans are inhuman monsters" and that nobody gets banned because it's ENWorld.
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ProfessorCirno posted:That thread starts side-eye crazy, transitions into absolute crazy, transitions further into shithead crazy, apparently involves the holocaust in a bit that got deleted, and ends with me noting that it took until page 13 for someone to point out "hey you're kinda claiming that all non-Europeans are inhuman monsters" and that nobody gets banned because it's ENWorld. Add in a good dose of Celebrim's medieval Catholic apologia (no you see the Spanish inquisition wasn't that bad and also wasn't sanctioned!) and it is serious crazytown.
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I'd love for someone to do exactly this, but with somewhere other than Europe. I'd love to see the grogosphere's reactions to a game where white people aren't a thing* because Europe is and always has been where the orcs live. They got super pissed off at Reign. Now that I'm typing it, a well-written setting where it's earth but humans never really got established outside of Africa because there were already elves and orcs and dragons and such everywhere could be pretty fun.
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Splicer posted:I'd love for someone to do exactly this, but with somewhere other than Europe. I'd love to see the grogosphere's reactions to a game where white people aren't a thing* because Europe is and always has been where the orcs live. They got super pissed off at Reign. See, I just want a game/setting based around the era of Pax Mongolica. It's even the same (vague) time frame D&D Fantasy Land happens at, so you can get plenty of slack-jawed foreign diplomats and traders and knights from the exotic West with their silver and slightly shittier everything else.
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If you're going to rip off history, try and make it more interesting, not less.
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I ran a campaign in which the characters traveled down the Silk Road in pursuit of a folkloric villain and every encounter-of-the-week was based on an authentic folktale from the region they were at. However, I reskinned all the fantasy races as human.
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"I randomly rolled the populations of real-world cities because looking them up would be  "quote:...I then when over the original, and on a notepad coped a hex number for each hex with a metropolis on it, then next to it I wrote the name of the city, and I rolled the population of each city with a d100 using this method: quote:If you have an army of soldiers where exactly 50% of them are women and 50% are men, where does this happen? Not in the real world. Not in the United States, not in any country I know of. Some women want to be soldiers, but most women do not. I'm not saying they shouldn't be, I believe it is up to them, that is just my experience after talking to many women. I've talked to a few female soldiers, and I can tell you that it was really special to meet them, I respect what they are doing for the country, and I appreciate their sacrifice. I am just trying to be realistic. Medieval Europe was a certain way, that is history, I can't change it, but I am trying to bring out a little of that atmosphere, it adds to the drama more, than to have unrealistic absolute equality between the sexes in medieval times. I am sorry, but there is something unusual about a woman wearing plate mail armor on the back of a horse, it is the exception to the rule that draw attention and makes people famous. quote:A 13-14 year old boy would probably be the equivalent of his mother in combat statistics, since he is not fully grown, though I think maybe his mom would be a better shot with the bow, since she had longer to practice her archery skills. The boy would probably be armed with a sharp edged farming implement and a dagger. a 15-16 year old boy would be bigger and stronger than his younger brother, his sister, also 15-16 years old would have a knife and a short bow.
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I'm glad they let him Build Like a True Creative and receive accolades from other posters for his dedication and bravery, and only, sadly, shut him down when he started talking about ~real world politics~, which is to say not military demographics and gender roles but school shootings and the Holocaust.
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Kim Stanley Robinson had a book where the Black Death wiped out 99+% of the population of Europe, meaning the Mongol armies arrived in a near-deserted land when they invaded Europe in the 14th century. The book then has several hundred years of alt-history in a world without Christianity or white people.
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Apr 3, 2018 07:35
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The Years of Rice and Salt? I really enjoyed that one!
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I wanted to read that book since 2011 but they never did a translation here and buying on Amazon would wreck my wallet
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quote:A 13-14 year old boy would probably be the equivalent of his mother in combat statistics Holy poo poo. I'm dying and I can't figure out whether it's laughter or my spirit giving up in defeat and leaving my body at having to read this terrible paragraph.
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Beyond the rich veins of grog, “what if D&D but in actual medieval Europe” was the laziest known worldbuilding troupe even back in the ‘80s.
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dwarf74 posted:And it gets more and more crazy as the thread goes on, because the dude is completely insistent on using Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Simian_Prime posted:Beyond the rich veins of grog, “what if D&D but in actual medieval Europe” was the laziest known worldbuilding troupe even back in the ‘80s. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Apr 3, 2018 |
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Cool, insane white men on the internet.
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