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The game is also really good, however Actual story spoilers not letting me pass until i'd committed the warcrime on the civvies was loving bullshit, i was looking at them the whole time thinking "wait a second, those aren't enemies" but nope, commit the murder or don't advance the plot, friend. NOW FEEL BAD SEQUENCE, COME ON, DON'T YOU FEEL BAD? Actually annoyed me a fair bit.
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I took the free Spec Ops and did what the story intended I should do: not play it. (took it from humble, not the code in thread)
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dogstile posted:The game is also really good, however It's not about you. It's about military shooters generally
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corn in the bible posted:It's not about you. It's about military shooters generally You mean what the games trying to portray? I'm not so sure, you can ignore a lot of things in the game but that one sequence you definitely cannot.
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Weren't you originally supposed to have the option to turn and report back after pretty much every main story beat?
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You were. They took the option out because players were consistently USING it, and their intended moral kind of fell apart if the player wasn't a self-righteous bastard.
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Backhand posted:You were. They took the option out because players were consistently USING it, and their intended moral kind of fell apart if the player wasn't a self-righteous bastard. You are still a good person.
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Game isn't without problems, but it does a lot of stuff right. There are a lot of places that let you avoid the white phosphorous debacle when you seem forced into it all over again, but the game doesn't tell you, you need to think of it for yourself. You can shoot down the guys being hanged, you can fire above the crowd of civilians to scare them away, etc. Most of the time you're not forced into a bad choice, but you aren't being told PRESS A TO NOT EXECUTE CIVILIANS PRESS B TO GUN THEM DOWN. Requires a bit more problem solving.
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aniviron posted:Game isn't without problems, but it does a lot of stuff right. There are a lot of places that let you avoid the white phosphorous debacle when you seem forced into it all over again, but the game doesn't tell you, you need to think of it for yourself. You can shoot down the guys being hanged, you can fire above the crowd of civilians to scare them away, etc. Most of the time you're not forced into a bad choice, but you aren't being told PRESS A TO NOT EXECUTE CIVILIANS PRESS B TO GUN THEM DOWN. Requires a bit more problem solving. Doesn't matter if they got it right a million times. They went out of their way to reduce the player agency to 'do atrocity or have wasted your money/time/effort', even once. The player-hostile intent is clear.
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Lewd oh, narrative dissonance.
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You are still a good person
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Backhand posted:You were. They took the option out because players were consistently USING it, and their intended moral kind of fell apart if the player wasn't a self-righteous bastard. Which is a weird thing, IMO. I know that by and large, looking at everyone who's bought a game, most people have a huge drop-off on even getting to chapter 3 in a game, but I can't imagine someone doing the 'Walker and co. retreated back to base' ending fifteen minutes into the game and then completely dropping it afterwards. For 60 bucks, I'd assume they'd still actually play the game normally.
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RareAcumen posted:Which is a weird thing, IMO. I know that by and large, looking at everyone who's bought a game, most people have a huge drop-off on even getting to chapter 3 in a game, but I can't imagine someone doing the 'Walker and co. retreated back to base' ending fifteen minutes into the game and then completely dropping it afterwards. For 60 bucks, I'd assume they'd still actually play the game normally. Yeah, exactly. Far Cry 4 literally had an alternate ending if you stood still and did nothing for 15 minutes at the beginning of the game. Far Cry 5 has one if you do nothing for SIXTY SECONDS at the beginning of the game.
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RareAcumen posted:Which is a weird thing, IMO. I know that by and large, looking at everyone who's bought a game, most people have a huge drop-off on even getting to chapter 3 in a game, but I can't imagine someone doing the 'Walker and co. retreated back to base' ending fifteen minutes into the game and then completely dropping it afterwards. For 60 bucks, I'd assume they'd still actually play the game normally. Demon’s Crest has extremely high return rates because people got the bad ending you can do in a couple minutes. If Capcom left that out, it’s probable we’d have seen more in that franchise. A huge number of players never knew about the second castle in SotN.
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Lone Goat posted:Yeah, exactly. the issue with FC4's fake-out ending is that it was generally so good and satisfying that if someone got that one first they might not ever go forward with the game proper. that's what happened to me - i got asked to help move some furniture shortly after the game commenced, and i just left the game running while i shifted the weight. i got back just as pagan min was talking about the crab rangoon and got this kind of cool and very practical ending. i was like 'okay, neat', and then when i got about a quarter of the way through the main campaign it became really obvious that the fake-out was way better and more satisfying than anything else i was going to get from that game. i still have almost no time on FC4 because i happened to find the good ending pretty early on and i was satisfied with it.
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I keep thinking all the new posts are about free games, and then I read it and get sad
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Node posted:I keep thinking all the new posts are about free games, and then I read it and get sad You want sad and free? Try This War of Mine. The developers just announced a sale and it's free to try out until sunday.
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If I wanted sad and free I'd just reminisce about my divorce But I've been meaning to play that videogame yes
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If you got out of a divorce for free there is no reason to be sad!
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ZypherIM posted:If you got out of a divorce for free there is no reason to be sad! My coworker got her ex to pay for the entire process and ended up with their house. It's the best story of divorce I've ever heard.
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RareAcumen posted:Which is a weird thing, IMO. I know that by and large, looking at everyone who's bought a game, most people have a huge drop-off on even getting to chapter 3 in a game, but I can't imagine someone doing the 'Walker and co. retreated back to base' ending fifteen minutes into the game and then completely dropping it afterwards. For 60 bucks, I'd assume they'd still actually play the game normally.  Similarly, a smaller (but still significant) proportion of people who played Undertale stopped after only getting one of the neutral endings. For a lot of people, any ending is enough when it comes to games, even if it's pretty clearly not the intended one (or even really functional as an ending beyond the game saying "The End").
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HebrewMagic posted:If I wanted sad and free I'd just reminisce about my divorce thread not strong enough for that powerful of a post/username joke also spicy cops w/lime was cool until i couldn't crouch ever so i never made it past the prologue and uninstalled. some games don't age well and all console to PC ports are bad
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Killed By Death posted:A significant number of people (including game industry people such as reviewers/journalists who really should know better) stopped playing NieR:Automata after getting ending A, despite the developers/publisher being quite candid about how you are supposed to keep playing afterwards I'm sorry, but there's no easy way to say this: You're all idiots
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I played Zero Time Dilemma and in the first minute the Big Bad who abducted and incarcerated everyone let me flip a coin, and if i get it right, everyone goes free. Fifty-fifty chance to just be let go and not have to go through whatever he has planned. I'm assuming he was trying to make some kind of point. I guessed right on the coin flip. Everyone was let out, and the game ended. I shelved it.
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So I guess the answer is that, no, they shouldn't have let people stop the game early, they were right.
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corn in the bible posted:So I guess the answer is that, no, they shouldn't have let people stop the game early, they were right. You were never a good person.
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Killed By Death posted:A significant number of people (including game industry people such as reviewers/journalists who really should know better) stopped playing NieR:Automata after getting ending A, despite the developers/publisher being quite candid about how you are supposed to keep playing afterwards That's all fair enough, since that's like, a good five to seven hours of gameplay before people put it down as opposed to getting the secret ending in Far Cry 4 within twenty minutes and saying 'Yeah, that was worth 60 bucks' and never touching it again. 60 bucks is either a lot for that little game or not depending on who it is but it just seems a bit odd to me.
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I definitely got to around halfway through far cry 4 and was like "why am i even joining these rebel assholes again". The people you did missions for weren't likeable, imo. aniviron posted:Game isn't without problems, but it does a lot of stuff right. There are a lot of places that let you avoid the white phosphorous debacle when you seem forced into it all over again, but the game doesn't tell you, you need to think of it for yourself. You can shoot down the guys being hanged, you can fire above the crowd of civilians to scare them away, etc. Most of the time you're not forced into a bad choice, but you aren't being told PRESS A TO NOT EXECUTE CIVILIANS PRESS B TO GUN THEM DOWN. Requires a bit more problem solving. I'll admit, i liked that some of this let you do that. It's just that one scene that bothered me. Also play THIS WAR OF MINE and get ready for FROSTPUNK
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dogstile posted:The game is also really good, however re Spec-Ops You can shoot into the air, I think - you don't have to hurt them unless you choose to.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:re Spec-Ops You can shoot over the crowd of civilians, yeah, but you have no choice but to drop the white phosphorus on the crowd of people later(? don't remember the game timeline)
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Crusader Kings 2 is free until Saturday at 10am Seattle Time, then 75%-off for the rest of the weekend.
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The Kins posted:Crusader Kings 2 is free until Saturday at 10am Seattle Time, then 75%-off for the rest of the weekend.  Came here to post this.
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The Kins posted:Crusader Kings 2 is free until Saturday at 10am Seattle Time, then 75%-off for the rest of the weekend. They really should make the base game free. There’s so much DLC that it’s basically a paid demo at this point anyway, and it’s one of those games that you’ll either love or completely bounce off of. I’ve given it a bunch of tries and could never figure it out, even though it conceptually is extremely my kind of thing.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:They really should make the base game free. I'm sure Paradox Interactive will get on that, right after the heat death of the universe.
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The Kins posted:Crusader Kings 2 is free until Saturday at 10am Seattle Time, then 75%-off for the rest of the weekend. Free to try until Saturday or free if you download it during this timeframe? Need to figure out how to pitch it to my friends beyond "Incestuous Catholic Inbreeding Simulator".
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Donkringel posted:Free to try until Saturday or free if you download it during this timeframe? Need to figure out how to pitch it to my friends beyond "Incestuous Catholic Inbreeding Simulator". Free to keep if you download within the timeframe
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Donkringel posted:Free to try until Saturday or free if you download it during this timeframe? Need to figure out how to pitch it to my friends beyond "Incestuous Catholic Inbreeding Simulator". You can also kill your family members.
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