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Charles posted:It's bigger but gets better mileage than any previous model, if that's any comfort. If I cared about fuel costs, I wouldn't have bought a turbocharged car that uses premium. It just feels like Subaru is sucking all of the fun out of their lineup. Edit: Jesus, Christ, it's snowing outside. I was going to flop the tires today.
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Well Subaru started their claim in the US to fame filling an obscure niche in the market. Problem with that is there is no business model stability. Once you have established revenue the first thing you want to do is widen your market. They're only trying to appeal to everyone which is basically building a Camry and gaggle of SUVs. The good news is that the WRX and STI sell well enough that they aren't going anywhere for a while.
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Apr 2, 2018 12:15
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Is X Mode just modulating throttle input, turning up traction control to 11, and keeping the revs in the torque? Or is there really some kind of fake low range "gearing" going on?
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Apr 3, 2018 07:14
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Isn't one of subaru's problems that they basically build all the cars they can physically build? It then makes sense to see the cars that move the fastest and simplify the lane by only having one drive train option.
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Apr 3, 2018 07:21
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they picked the worst one if thats what they are doing, if you want a subaru internationally you are gunna be forced into a cvt because americans can't drive manual, which really sucks
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Apr 3, 2018 07:59
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Looks like I need to replace my shocks on my 13 Forester. Never had to do that at 120k already, but here we are. Any reason to pony up for anything other than OEM? Aftermarket is hilariously expensive from what I've looked up since a half inch of lowering wouldn't suck... But its about 3 times as much as some OEM shocks I found so that's going to win unless I'm missing something.
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Apr 3, 2018 22:46
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Where are you looking for shocks?
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Apr 4, 2018 00:59
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Wrar posted:Where are you looking for shocks? Been mostly just starting with Google searches and eBay so far. Looks like what I find want really OEM after digging, but how bad of an idea is buying an unspecified set of strut assemblies like this for much cheaper than others I can find? https://www.1aauto.com/2009-13-subaru-forester-strut-and-spring-assembly/i/1assp01646?f=1158599&y=2013
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Apr 4, 2018 02:14
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PabloBOOM posted:Been mostly just starting with Google searches and eBay so far. Looks like what I find want really OEM after digging, but how bad of an idea is buying an unspecified set of strut assemblies like this for much cheaper than others I can find? I've had good luck with going on RockAuto, picking out a set of KYBs, and then searching around using those part numbers. Sometimes Amazon has a really good price on them, most times RockAuto works out the best.
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Apr 4, 2018 02:18
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Slim pickings on rockauto. Do I remember right that Monroe is... Decent? Though they only have front and then econo rears https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/subaru,2013,forester,2.5l+h4,1504975,suspension,strut+/+coil+spring+/+mount+assembly,15174
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Apr 4, 2018 02:35
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KYB Excel G or Cusco touring A are about the only aftermarket struts I'd use that are available for the forester. Cuscos are a little pricey though at like $800 a set. KYBs (very similar to oem, I think are under $300 a set). You do not need a complete assembly with springs and all that, just the shocks themselves. e- that's pretty good for that complete, assembled set though, I wonder what the shocks are like. A friend of mine with an impreza wants her car higher and I'm considering doing the whole forester or crosstrek conversion with the subframe spacers and all. $300 for assembled suspension is pretty good. jamal fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Apr 4, 2018 |
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Apr 4, 2018 03:43
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Is that even worth it vs just trading the Impreza in on a similar age/miles Crosstrek? I mean, the Crosstrek has a couple of differences over the Impreza other than height - I think gearing and something is stiffer/reinforced, iirc.
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Apr 4, 2018 05:00
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jamal posted:KYB Excel G or Cusco touring A are about the only aftermarket struts I'd use that are available for the forester. Cuscos are a little pricey though at like $800 a set. KYBs (very similar to oem, I think are under $300 a set). You do not need a complete assembly with springs and all that, just the shocks themselves. I'm very tempted by the cheap whole assembly since I don't have a spring compressor and this will be my first solo shock change and I'd like to avoid being a coil horror story.
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Apr 4, 2018 13:18
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PabloBOOM posted:I'm very tempted by the cheap whole assembly since I don't have a spring compressor and this will be my first solo shock change and I'd like to avoid being a coil horror story. I understand this sentiment. However with a spring compressor it's not a big deal.
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Apr 4, 2018 13:32
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You can borrow a spring compressor from PepBoys or whatever, they're really easy.
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Apr 4, 2018 16:04
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Hm. I'll reconsider my spring aversion since then I don't have to get the whole assembly$$$ and that opens up better strut options in my budget.
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Apr 4, 2018 16:06
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I replaced the struts and hats on my '07 Forester myself and found the disassembly process to be way sketchier than on any other car I've done. The springs were so long and under so much compression that I had a hard time with them buckling and it was difficult to hook up to enough coils with my screw-type compressor. It took a lot of patience and multiple tries to get everything arranged safely. If I were to do it again, I'd swap in a pre-assembled setup in a heartbeat.
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Apr 4, 2018 16:23
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KYB part numbers btw are: fr: 339383 fl: 339384 r: 341486 They are well under my cost at rockauto at around $70 a piece. Cuscos I mentioned are more like 650. I really need to buy myself one of these: https://www.redlinestands.com/catal...mpressor-p-1593 There are nicer/better ones but that's a pretty decent setup for the money.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:14
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So looks like my best options look like either that generic whole assembly I linked above, or four KYB struts from Rockauto and a press that hopefully won't maim me. Will it be noticeably awful to cheap out and go with the generic assembly on a short DD/road trip mobile?
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Apr 4, 2018 17:21
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I have no idea. They could be fine for like the next 100k miles, or they could ride like poo poo and start clunking in a few months.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:33
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Anyone aware of any local Hawkeye WRX sedan/wagons for sale? The market seems to have become a wasteland lately. Finally test drove a WRX and I enjoyed it a lot, almost more so than the STI I drove a month or two ago.
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Apr 4, 2018 23:17
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Hawkeye WRXs are probably the best WRX (IMO), especially the 06.
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Apr 5, 2018 00:46
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Wrar posted:Hawkeye WRXs are probably the best WRX (IMO), especially the 06. It breaks my heart that now I am seeing trashed riced ones all over the place.
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So the new (reman) denso alternator finally arrived, just in time too the old one was starting to sound really gnarly. after I replaced it I tried turning it by hand and it was baaaad, felt like it was filled with gravel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BAsxSmQEA I let the car sit for two hours before touching it and the alt was still blazing hot from all the friction in the bad bearing. it was almost to hot to hold. you can also see the front and back is covered with a fine dust from the bearing disintegrating. that thing was capital F hosed.  all back together now. the new one is so shiny and clean it really stands out. really happy I was right about the noise and that replacing it on this car is super easy unlike a lot of FWD cars. yay pancake engines!
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Wrar posted:Hawkeye WRXs are probably the best WRX (IMO), especially the 06. The only gripe I have with mine is the damned seat doesn't fold down. Such a shame.
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Apr 5, 2018 14:50
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Aluminum rear control arms and the fronts sometimes get the trick caster arms. First year of the EJ255 in the WRX, DBW.
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04-06 STI is the only one with extra caster. I think the 06 gets aluminum front control arms and then 07 went back to steel. It's just the front lateral link that is al, which doesn't really accomplish all that much. The 06-07 gets the better 4/2 pot brakes and the 2.5 though, which is good.
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These FA20 (bren tuned) engines are very sensitive to fuel. I swear each time I get gas it is a roll of the dice whether or not I have issues with knock feedback and learning and this is usually from the same station (Valero seems best in South Jersey). I am half tempted to get rid of the car because I can't enjoy it. So to maybe help this issue I was going to replace the Perrin intake with the Grimmspeed or stock. I also want to get it on a lift to check all fitments again, wrap the Jpipe and install a new charge pipe (when everything is good), then get a retune. Are there any other areas I can look at to make sure I am not missing anything?
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Apr 5, 2018 16:32
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Just have the tuner pull some timing if you can't get decent fuel.
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Found a new listing of a '06 WRX wagon in dark grey/silver with 57k miles listed at $13k... Looks like there was a non-total accident back in '07, could be promising. Did the wagons ever come in red?
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quote:04-06 STI is the only one with extra caster. Not true. Some 06's did get them. Fifty Three posted:Agreed, although I can never remember the differences between 06 and 07. This is also contingent upon swapping in the tails from 04-05s. Slightly different tune, 06 got alloy suspension bits, 06 slightly lighter, 06 4.444 final drive vs 07 4.111. Basically the 06 was too close to the STI so they just nobbled the 07 slightly. Also for some reason the 07 occasionally had an R180 in it. Saying what is in a Hawkeye and year model differences is kinda interesting because esp in my experience Subaru threw out some really odd cars that dont match the factory specs, going from a few parts bin differences to say my 06 is is a true WTF as it has Spec-C and STI all through it AND a STI VIN, let alone a hot factory map. A lot of the grab bag of parts bins was Subaru running down inventory of parts that wouldnt fit the new model I think..... in the end you dont know what you might come across in a Hawkeye until you have a close look. quote:Hawkeye WRXs are probably the best WRX (IMO), especially the 06. MY99/00, followed by 06/07 and then MY15 or MY11 hatch is my order. There's a lot of personal preferences of course but 99/00, 06/07, 11 are the years of good upgrades. I think we can mostly agree that if you picked anything other than 04 XT as the best Forester you have a problem.
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Any of you guys got a recommendation for a tuner in New England? I know EFI was supposed to be the top a while ago. I only ask because the guys that did my tune back in the day appear to have either gone out of business or just straight up left.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Not true. Some 06's did get them. Not in the US. And no wrxes here got an r180 or sti/spec-c parts. The final drive ratios you got there are different too. here the 06-07 wrx is 3.70. jamal fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Wrar posted:Just have the tuner pull some timing if you can't get decent fuel. I emailed him about an hour ago. I find it hard to believe that South Jersey doesn't have good gas brands. My go-to brands are Valero, Sunoco, and Citgo. Shell has one station in the area.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I think we can mostly agree that if you picked anything other than 04 XT as the best Forester you have a problem. Hey now. I have 2 05’s! Granted, they are basically identical to the 04’s.
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aluminumonkey posted:I emailed him about an hour ago. I fill up with 93 from BP and have the same thing. Granted I'm just using the OTS Cobb Stage 1 93 tune. Basically impossible to make it through any drive without having 1.41-2.82 degrees of knock feedback. I flashed the tune for 91 and that got rid of most of it.
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jamal posted:Not in the US. And no wrxes here got an r180 or sti/spec-c parts. I'm aware of stock parts binner cars in the USA and Europe / UK got some interesting ones. It is not just a Aust only thing. Imperador do Brasil posted:Hey now. I have 2 05’s! Granted, they are basically identical to the 04’s. A couple of differences tho. Different tune to slightly bring back the hp.... and they also came clean with the real hp rathe than the ridulous underquoting. 210hp in the 04? More like 250. The quoted 05 hp was still underquoted but closer to the reality of 240. Still point taken, the 05 is still a beast  - also find it amusing that the 04/05 XT due to tyre diameter differences tops out at 225kph vs my MY06 WRX that hits the limiter at 213kph.
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ThePeavstenator posted:I fill up with 93 from BP and have the same thing. Granted I'm just using the OTS Cobb Stage 1 93 tune. Basically impossible to make it through any drive without having 1.41-2.82 degrees of knock feedback. I flashed the tune for 91 and that got rid of most of it. From what I understand that's somewhat normal just because the quality of fuel can vary. That's why the ecu can adjust over time. You really don't want to see knock under high load though. pctD fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Gigi Galli posted:Any of you guys got a recommendation for a tuner in New England? I know EFI was supposed to be the top a while ago. I only ask because the guys that did my tune back in the day appear to have either gone out of business or just straight up left. EFI Logics did my car a couple of months ago and did a great job. My car threw an O2 sensor code shortly afterwards which they solved and updated the map for free and sent it to me via email. Super nice guys too. Tuner is a little paranoid and unplugged my dash cam when it was on the dyno though, haha.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:A couple of differences tho. Different tune to slightly bring back the hp.... and they also came clean with the real hp rathe than the ridulous underquoting. 210hp in the 04? More like 250. The quoted 05 hp was still underquoted but closer to the reality of 240. I have one 05 that just has turbo-back and short ram intake running Cobb Stage 2 OTS, and the other has VF48 with EWG and top-feed rails and 1000cc injectors and everything in between, dyno-tuned etc. They’re massively different to drive but both hilarious. The gearing makes them accelerate in a way that no SUV really should, and the fact that they’re not really very heavy makes them solid performers. The wife also likes that they both have heated seats and leather etc etc to make her cozy. I always thought the 210hp rating was a bit ridiculous given how they performed even stock. I remember driving one when they were new and feeling like they would pull on a WRX with no problem.
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