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EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Something something frog pot boiling water

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CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene
I think most people here are on the same page, it's just that some people are angry at the liberals for sucking poo poo (true), and some people are posting reminders that conservatives tangibly suck even more poo poo and that keeping them out of power is a sensible political goal (also true).

patonthebach
Aug 22, 2016

by R. Guyovich

Reince Penis posted:

Saying that both parties are the same was true 20 years ago, but because the conservative movement has shifted so far right it really isn't true anymore.

Unfortunately, the meme lives on.

How do you figure? I think many would agree the libs have gone more right (atleast towards big business) in past 10 years, when the conservatives have essentially told their members certain old positions like abortion or gay marriage are no longer arguable and a part of todays canada.

They seem closer to me than ever.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Seldom Posts posted:

The liberals are the mafia, but the Cons are nazis. Clearly the only responsible choice is to let the mafia run the country.

jesus lmao


https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/trouble-in-paradise-478719443.html

Brian Pallister isn't paying his Costa Rica taxes lol, what is with Manitobans and electing leaders with massive foreign real estate portfolios that they skip taxes on

quote:

Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister’s holding company has been flagged for nonpayment of a luxury tax owed on his Costa Rican vacation home for almost a decade, the Free Press has learned.

Penalties for failing to pay the Costa Rican national luxury tax, or under-reporting the value of a qualifying property, are as high as 10 times the amount of tax that should have been paid.

Costa Rica’s luxury tax on homes, also known as the Solidarity Tax for the Strengthening of Housing Programs, was instituted in 2009 — two years after Pallister and his wife, Esther, purchased their vacation property through a holding company, Finca Deneter Doce S.A.

The tax is assessed in addition to standard property taxes levied by local governments. Its purpose is to tax the wealthy to improve housing for the Central American country’s poor.

Documents obtained by the Free Press reveal Pallister’s holding company is on a list of property owners who haven’t paid the luxury tax.

Pallister’s 7,700-square-foot getaway home, which sits on seven acres of land near Tamarindo, along the country’s Pacific coast, is worth anywhere from US$550,000 to more than US$1 million, according to estimates from real estate agents based in the area. (The estimates were based on photos of the home and a description of the property provided by the Free Press — not on actual visits.)

Previously published photos of Pallister’s Costa Rican home show an infinity pool overlooking a forest vista, a modern kitchen with marble countertops, and a lavish entrance way.

The total amount of tax the Manitoba premier owes, irrespective of penalties, could be as much as US$20,000 (CDN$25,600) depending on his Costa Rican home’s actual market value, according to an analysis done by the Free Press.

In a statement Tuesday night to the Free Press, Pallister disputed any notion he is in arrears.

"We have never received any legal or accounting advice that our house in Costa Rica was subject to this luxury tax," the premier said. "If we are, then we would be happy to pay it.

"I have always paid all of my taxes in Canada and Costa Rica."

Costa Rica’s luxury tax operates on a sliding scale, starting at one-quarter of one per cent of a property’s market value and climbing to more than one-half of one per cent for the most expensive homes. At the base rate, the premier’s holding company would be on the hook for anywhere from US$1,375 to US$2,500 a year in luxury taxes, depending on whether his home was judged to be worth US$550,000 or US$1 million.

The threshold for determining whether a homeowner is obliged to pay the tax is based on the construction value of the home itself. If that threshold is met, the value of the surrounding land is also factored into calculating the tax.

According to information supplied by Pallister’s company to Costa Rican authorities — and obtained by the Free Press — the premier took out a building permit with the municipality of Santa Cruz in 2008 to construct a one-floor residence on his property. The builder was Jimaco Construction, and the permit declared the value of construction at 105 million colones (roughly US$186,000 at current rates). In 2009, a second permit was taken out for an addition to the home, with a declared construction value of 24.7 million colones (US$44,000).

When the luxury tax was instituted in 2009, homes were exempt if they were valued at less than 100 million colones. According to information Pallister supplied in obtaining municipal permits, the construction value of his home was worth almost 130 million colones at the time.

The exemption levels set by the Costa Rican government vary from year to year. In 2014, for example, the luxury tax kicked in at homes with a construction value of more than 121 million colones; for 2017, the base value was 126 million colones.

In an article dated Dec. 17, 2009, the website CostaRicaLaw.com published a list of luxury home tax "debtors" — those deemed by the Costa Rican revenue department to be "currently delinquent in the filing and payment" of the tax. There were hundreds of companies on the list, including Pallister’s holding company, Finca Deneter Doce S.A.

In a pair of 2017 emails obtained by the Free Press, a taxation branch official with Costa Rica’s finance department asks another government official whether Finca Deneter Doce S.A. has paid the Solidarity Tax (luxury tax), and is told there is no record of such a transaction.

According to Melendez & Bonilla, a Costa Rican law firm that specializes in tax law, the Costa Rican government expects property owners to determine the tax they owe and declare it. It is calculated on an annual basis, and is due annually in mid-January.

However, an email from a Costa Rican lawyer Pallister’s office provided to the Free Press, defended the premier.

"To my knowledge, Mr. and Mrs. Pallister have not been told to pay this tax, and actually the house may not even qualify for the tax, but that can only be known if they were to do an appraisal," Paul Oporta wrote.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
My god it'd be loving hilarious if the Republic of Costa Rica seized his property and barred him from entry, forcing him to actually live in the province he 'governs'.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Remember when Sam Katz was the mayor of Winnipeg, but claimed his primary residence as a home in Phoenix, Arizona because that gave him a massive US property tax break, Manitoba has some of the most corrupt politicians.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Maybe we should be like Belgium and just not have a sitting government for a few years. Things seemed to function more or less the same during that gap. Maybe if the same thing happened here it would be a reality check that on a local level that most people operate on, things will remain the same regardless of who, if anyone, is in power.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Arcsquad12 posted:

Maybe we should be like Belgium and just not have a sitting government for a few years. Things seemed to function more or less the same during that gap. Maybe if the same thing happened here it would be a reality check that on a local level that most people operate on, things will remain the same regardless of who, if anyone, is in power.

"A de facto one-party state, viewing both the Liberal Party and Conservative Party as manifestations of a single 'Business Party' controlled by corporate and financial interests"

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Arcsquad12 posted:

Maybe we should be like Belgium and just not have a sitting government for a few years. Things seemed to function more or less the same during that gap. Maybe if the same thing happened here it would be a reality check that on a local level that most people operate on, things will remain the same regardless of who, if anyone, is in power.

Belgium is very different, and is super fractured and hyper-regionalized. They have even more language tension that Canada/Quebec does.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

CLAM DOWN posted:

Belgium is very different, and is super fractured and hyper-regionalized. They have even more language tension that Canada/Quebec does.

Well those filthy flemish have what's coming to them. And those frenchies too.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Arcsquad12 posted:

Well those filthy flemish have what's coming to them. And those frenchies too.

Belgium even has their own equalization payment scheme, it's amazing. And just as much complaining from the drat french, except in Belgium it's the Flemish subsidizing the rest of the country.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Jesus, the Manitoba PCs are out fundraising the NDP 3:1, the MB Liberals are getting next to nothing. 2.3m for PCs, 700k for the NDP and 150k for the Liberals. The NDP and the Liberals are sitting cash positive with their debts paid off from the last election.

The PCs raised personal contributions from $3000 to $5000 and eliminated the per vote subsidy in their first month.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Fundraising should not at all be a thing that influences politics in a democracy.

lowly abject turd
Mar 23, 2009

Baronjutter posted:

Fundraising should not at all be a thing that influences politics in a democracy.

:capitalism:

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Reince Penis posted:

Saying that both parties are the same was true 20 years ago, but because the conservative movement has shifted so far right it really isn't true anymore.

Unfortunately, the meme lives on.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Seldom Posts posted:

The liberals are the mafia, but the Cons are nazis. Clearly the only responsible choice is to let the mafia run the country.

I mean. yeah. Clearly the Mafia is better than loving Nazis, in this fictional scenario where there are only two choices. What kind of moron would you have to be to not think this.

lowly abject turd
Mar 23, 2009

THC posted:

I mean. yeah. Clearly the Mafia is better than loving Nazis, in this fictional scenario where there are only two choices. What kind of moron would you have to be to not think this.

how do you post a poll, want to find out who GBS would prefer in charge...

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

Baronjutter posted:

Fundraising should not at all be a thing that influences politics in a democracy.

I love a free and open democracy

quote:

The Tories finished the year with $1.1 million in cash, compared to $86,000 for the NDP and $54,000 for the Liberals.

Oh and Ad spending is unlimited during the campaign

quote:

They were previously forbidden to spend more than $268,000 on ads outside of a campaign period in an election year. The law passed last year limits the cap to 90 days before a campaign begins.

Ad spending in the rest of an election year is unrestricted.

:smithicide:

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Lol I have more money than the liberals

just another
Oct 16, 2009

these dead towns that make the maps wrong now

Reince Penis posted:

Saying that both parties are the same was true 20 years ago, but because the conservative movement has shifted so far right it really isn't true anymore.

Unfortunately, the meme lives on.

Are they really "so far right" relative to 20 years ago? I mean Stockwell Day was a Young Earth Creationist.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

just another posted:

Are they really "so far right" relative to 20 years ago? I mean Stockwell Day was a Young Earth Creationist.

Stockwell Day was a part of the movement that literally took 'Progressive' out of the Progressive Conservative party. There is no place for red tories in the Conservative party anymore.

That's my point, they've excised the more moderate parts of their coalition leaving only the far right elements.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Arcsquad12 posted:

Well those filthy flemish have what's coming to them. And those frenchies too.

the walloons are loving bullshit man

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Dreylad posted:

the walloons are loving bullshit man

Ur a walloon.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

that's it, we are now blood feuding.

MikeSevigny
Aug 6, 2002

Habs 2006: Cristobal Persuasion


:negative:

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007





I hate this country sometimes.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club




Yo are you loving kidding me? Straight up bigotry???

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
It's Christie Blatchford and the National Post, so yes.

They're striking while the iron is hot, because TPS was once again dis-invited from Pride and a whole lotta folks got feelings about that.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

infernal machines posted:

... and destroyed the census, so there's a five year gap with garbage data, that would have continued indefinitely had they not been ousted.
I don't know if people appreciate how lovely that gap really is: it makes it harder to responsibly make decisions that involve a lot of public money.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
It was a move designed to make evidence based decision making impossible, rather than just unlikely, which is particularly heinous IMO.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Does the TPS think they're ever coming to Pride again after a loving gay serial killer lmao

just another
Oct 16, 2009

these dead towns that make the maps wrong now
Speaking of which, when are we going to get the salacious True Crime details? I need a fix until Mind Hunters season 2.

RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
they daren't show their face forswooth of being silenced

:ughh:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

xtal posted:

Does the TPS think they're ever coming to Pride again after a loving gay serial killer lmao

I mean the gay serial killer isn't the problem, their absolutely shameful response to it and complete failure at engaging the lgbtq community on any other issue has guaranteed they won't be coming for a decade at least

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
Can't seem to link the music video directly, but it's embedded in the article here, worth a CanPol watch. Classified is a good dude.

https://www.cbcmusic.ca/posts/19787/classified-powerless-music-video-premiere

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Nationalize the National Post and put Blatchford in the Gulags

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
The gulags had to be closed down because entitled, lazy Canadians felt they were too good to work at prison camps in the NWT for minimum wage, and red tape bureaucracy makes it too difficult for TFWs to be certified as guards.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

Arivia posted:

I mean the gay serial killer isn't the problem, their absolutely shameful response to it and complete failure at engaging the lgbtq community on any other issue has guaranteed they won't be coming for a decade at least

Also the chief complaining after the fact that the community wasn’t proactive enough in helping them do their investigation :laffo:

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Arivia posted:

I mean the gay serial killer isn't the problem, their absolutely shameful response to it and complete failure at engaging the lgbtq community on any other issue has guaranteed they won't be coming for a decade at least

The gay serial killer is the problem in the sense that the body count is now clearly connected to the bigotry and wilful ignorance of the police. Is it not the ultimate result of marginalizing a group of people and shirking responsibility to protecting them: someone can murder those people with impunity?

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cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Lobok posted:

The gay serial killer is the problem in the sense that the body count is now clearly connected to the bigotry and wilful ignorance of the police. Is it not the ultimate result of marginalizing a group of people and shirking responsibility to protecting them: someone can murder those people with impunity?

I believe that it is well established that when gay and indigenous peoples feel the shadow of death, they seek out a large pipe in a construction yard in which to stuff the themselves before dying of natural causes repeatedly to the head.

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