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Olaf The Stout posted:I just beat the game from beginning to end last week and don't remember this. Also I never played MGS3, and every hint people have listed requires having some knowledge from that game that presents a special insight into boss' character. That's a game from two console generations ago, it doesn't seem like good story design to have all your foreshadowing contingent on a game that's not even available to buy in the current day on current hardware, pc aside. Well, yes, sequels tend to refer to and are enriched by previous instalments. You're complaining that you need to know stuff about a character in order to guess where the character's story might be going. I mean, "knowing who the main antagonist and what the driving clone plot point of MGS1 is" isn't a small detail. It's probably fair to say it's a lot easier to see coming if your memory of the previous games is fresh, I replayed 3 and played PW in the weeks before it came out and it was a good time picking up on all this stuff. There are still a few things that don't require prior knowledge, like your reflection literally being a different person. Lunchmeat Larry has a new favorite as of 09:31 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Bayonetta's design is so unashamedly over-the-top that I can't hate it. All these things are subjective but I think her look manages to strike the right balance of hyperfeminine without being too distractingly horny.
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Olaf The Stout posted:I just beat the game from beginning to end last week and don't remember this. Also I never played MGS3, and every hint people have listed requires having some knowledge from that game that presents a special insight into boss' character. That's a game from two console generations ago, it doesn't seem like good story design to have all your foreshadowing contingent on a game that's not even available to buy in the current day on current hardware, pc aside. There's definitely a scene with Huey where he yells about DD being a wolf not a dog.
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Specifically its near the end of his storyline.
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Cleretic posted:I've always been pretty okay with Bayonetta, just because both the game and the character absolutely OWN just how ridiculous and sexually charged the whole thing is. It's very self-aware and loving the hell out of what it is. This exactly how I've felt about Bayonetta. Despite all the sexual imagery I've never seen them as particularly horny/creepy games (i.e. like Dead or Alive Volleyball or any anime stuff with big-titted 10 year olds or anything like that). Getting your kicks to Bayonetta is like getting turned on by a Lady Gaga live show - it just doesn't make sense.
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John Murdoch posted:Is the MGS HD collection not on PS4? Lunchmeat Larry posted:Well, yes, sequels tend to refer to and are enriched by previous instalments. You're complaining that you need to know stuff about a character in order to guess where the character's story might be going. I mean, "knowing who the main antagonist and what the driving clone plot point of MGS1 is" isn't a small detail.
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John Murdoch posted:Is the MGS HD collection not on PS4? Nope, they never released it for this console generation.
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I think it's a bit dumb to claim it's totally impossible to play a game that has been rereleased for PC, PS3, 360, Vita and the motherfucking 3DS in under a decade.
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food court bailiff posted:I think it's a bit dumb to claim it's totally impossible to play a game that has been rereleased for PC, PS3, 360, Vita and the motherfucking 3DS in under a decade. 3 never came to PC 
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I’ve been playing Bayonetta for the first time and I think her design is pretty inline with how over the top Platinum Games tend to be. I mean... her skintight bodysuit is made out of her own hair and then sometimes she turns that hair into a huge bird or a dragon. Anyway my things dragging games down is that Rimworld takes ages to get going and it is also extremely addictive, which is why i am tired and cranky today
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I've never found Bayonetta sexy, more ridiculous. The vaguely Slenderman-esque body shape really doesn't do it for me.
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food court bailiff posted:I think it's a bit dumb to claim it's totally impossible to play a game that has been rereleased for PC, PS3, 360, Vita and the motherfucking 3DS in under a decade. Why? I don't own any of the systems you've listed, and I think it's a bit dumb to expect someone to drop 200 bucks on outdated hardware in order for a story to be coherent. Plenty of media can take a story that's a sequel or prequel and tell a satisfying self-contained story. Olaf The Stout has a new favorite as of 16:04 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Maybe people should post itemised lists of game characters they've gotten horny over.
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Futuresight posted:Maybe people should post itemised lists of game characters they've gotten horny over. 1. Grimer 2. Muk
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Sunswipe posted:I've never found Bayonetta sexy, more ridiculous. The vaguely Slenderman-esque body shape really doesn't do it for me. Bayonetta is a total rig
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Getting your kicks to Bayonetta is like getting turned on by a Lady Gaga live show - it just doesn't make sense. Okay now this is just crazy talk
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Maxwell Lord posted:Okay now this is just crazy talk That's not a knock on Lady Gaga btw, just that she's not trying to titillate in her shows despite the sexualised costumes.
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Olaf The Stout posted:Why? I don't own any of the systems you've listed, and I think it's a bit dumb to expect someone to drop 200 bucks on outdated hardware in order for a story to be coherent. Plenty of media can take a story that's a sequel or prequel and tell a satisfying self-contained story. MGS5 certainly has its storytelling problems but "I jumped into this series known for its heavy story focus half a dozen games in and I feel like it would be more satisfying if i knew the characters better" isn't one of them. It's probably the most self contained game in the series next to 1. Lunchmeat Larry has a new favorite as of 16:19 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Olaf The Stout posted:Why? I don't own any of the systems you've listed, and I think it's a bit dumb to expect someone to drop 200 bucks on outdated hardware in order for a story to be coherent. Plenty of media can take a story that's a sequel or prequel and tell a satisfying self-contained story. "200 bucks" My man, you can get PS2's for like, hilariously cheap nowadays online and likely with a whole library of games included. Hell, you could probably buy a hacked PS2 just the same.
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Yardbomb posted:"200 bucks" There's ps2's in charity shops for like £5 + cables and wires + a controller,the guy's just lazy lol. Brazilianpeanutwar has a new favorite as of 16:26 on Apr 5, 2018 |
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Schneider Inside Her posted:Bayonetta is a total rig ... is that good?
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Bayonetta's design is fine. The wicked weaves aren't even all that pervy. It's the constant rear end shots and overused shiny crotches that had me going "ok guys I get it, SEX" But yeah I can't imagine people actually getting horny over this stuff
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KingSlime posted:Bayonetta's design is fine. The wicked weaves aren't even all that pervy. It's the constant rear end shots and overused shiny crotches that had me going "ok guys I get it, SEX" Yeah, I really think Bayonetta's design is stylistic and basically a lady Dante. Just infinitely capable and take-no-poo poo, I do what I want. UNFORTUNATELY what that means is that she needs to be sexualized and not just bad rear end so it can appropriately be viewed through a straight man's lens. That said it's so unabashedly over the top it's almost a parody of itself. I can see people feeling either way about it. All of that said I never saw Dante's clothes come off mid combo and frankly I'm offended 
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Dante spent all of DMC3 shirtless (under an open coat, but), though.
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Schubalts posted:Dante spent all of DMC3 shirtless (under an open coat, but), though. No that is just a male power fantasy 
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I want a new God Hand, except every time you go into the slow-mo power wheel, Gene's shirt explodes off.
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I still appreciate Revengeance for going in on the female gaze by constantly giving you shots of Raiden's perfect cyborg rear end
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Not to mention all the old Snake rear end shots in MGS4. His suit really doesn't leave much to the imagination.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:There's ps2's in charity shops for like £5 + cables and wires + a controller,the guy's just lazy lol. There’s also a pretty significant barrier of going back to an old as hell system and games. Graphics aside, there’s been a lot of quality of life stuff since the PS2 days that’s hard to go without now.
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Then again most of the PS2 games I've played after the fact have been fun despite the lack of polish compared to later games. Most of the consoles Licensed games are even pretty fun, there's only a few that I've played that were crap outside the infamous ones like Bad Boys 2.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:There’s also a pretty significant barrier of going back to an old as hell system and games. Graphics aside, there’s been a lot of quality of life stuff since the PS2 days that’s hard to go without now. We're talking about going back to metal gear solid which is available across a poo poo ton of platforms new and old,not to mention emulation's a thing for 1 2 and 3,saying you have to spend $200 is just stupid in the extreme (i know you didn't say it,i'm just saying)
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Poulpe posted:All of that said I never saw Dante's clothes come off mid combo and frankly I'm offended DmC had that bit with the slice of pizza if that counts for anything.
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Schubalts posted:Dante spent all of DMC3 shirtless (under an open coat, but), though. And you unlock a completely shirtless mode when you beat the game
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Dewgy posted:DmC had that bit with the slice of pizza if that counts for anything. That was ugly Donte' though, doesn't count.
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Schubalts posted:Dante spent all of DMC3 shirtless (under an open coat, but), though. Is that a look anyone finds sexy? It just reminds me of Liquid Snake, so I'd expect the person to keep spouting rants about genetics based on a complete misunderstanding of how genetics works.
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Schubalts posted:Dante spent all of DMC3 shirtless (under an open coat, but), though. True, but like others have said, that's more about the badass "I don't give a fuuuuck" to the player than the sexuality of it. If there were like regular closeups of his firm butt in tight jeans or he like went briefly sailor-moon naked when going into demon form that would be a closer equivalent. Dewgy posted:DmC had that bit with the slice of pizza if that counts for anything. Literally just watched this clip for the first time now, that was pretty great The baseball bat  Even still I think that was less about him being a sexually attractive individual (which he happens to be) as much as it was "I'm so badass this is how I get dressed in the morning"
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Sunswipe posted:Is that a look anyone finds sexy? It just reminds me of Liquid Snake, so I'd expect the person to keep spouting rants about genetics based on a complete misunderstanding of how genetics works. Google Image "Shirtless Coat" and see for yourself. Looks pretty good to me.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:We're talking about going back to metal gear solid which is available across a poo poo ton of platforms new and old,not to mention emulation's a thing for 1 2 and 3,saying you have to spend $200 is just stupid in the extreme (i know you didn't say it,i'm just saying) I get that, but imagine going back to a game you haven’t played before that came out before (roughly) standardized controls, or camera control being manageable. It’s rough. A remaster or something to bring a classic up to modern standards would be helpful. God, now that I think of it, camera issues used to be a major thing in games but I can’t think of the last time someone bitched about a game’s camera.
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