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Janna is definitely for cowards...... cowards who want to be High Ranked. I don’t think any champion routinely stands as far away from the opposing champions as Janna. Perhaps Lux, Ziggs, or Soraka.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:43
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About a dozen games so far this year and not a single person has accused me of buying my account. This community disappoints me The only person to get mad at me (in a way) was a mid Kindred who got dumpstered and asked, “what is this mmr” (he was silver v, the rest of my team was silver/bronze, and the enemies were gold, which is the highest rank possible in League of Legends)
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Apr 6, 2018 17:46
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Changes to Vi next patch in an attempt to make her a viable (haha) top laner https://twitter.com/RiotAugust/status/981340320322404352
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Apr 6, 2018 18:09
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d0grent posted:Changes to Vi next patch in an attempt to make her a viable (haha) top laner It's always a great result when you start out with literal impossible goals.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:20
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Riot has finally raised the club member limit to 100, bless their souls. GOON is open again, so if you want your precious tag add Teehee Tartlocks or Gromp Hellscream in-game and send a PM
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Apr 6, 2018 18:45
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d0grent posted:Changes to Vi next patch in an attempt to make her a viable (haha) top laner If nothing else it's somewhat novel that Riot is trying to add a lane role to a jungler. Most of their attempts to curate roles in the meta take the form of players figuring out how to play a champion outside of their deliberately defined role, and Riot rolling up with sirens blaring to put a stop to that poo poo.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:54
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when will they make lee sin support viable
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JerryLee posted:If nothing else it's somewhat novel that Riot is trying to add a lane role to a jungler. Most of their attempts to curate roles in the meta take the form of players figuring out how to play a champion outside of their deliberately defined role, and Riot rolling up with sirens blaring to put a stop to that poo poo. This is usually good. Heroes being played off role tend the be degenerate.
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Apr 6, 2018 19:09
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Hey Karthus is pretty good right now.
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i play this
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Kiranamos posted:It's always a great result when you start out with literal impossible goals. It's not that impossible. Vi's two big problems in lane are that she has trouble harassing enemy laners when they're away from the wave (since she's dependent on E for ranged damage), and that the cooldown on Q early is so agonizingly long, and the mana cost so needlessly punishing, that you put yourself at a serious disadvantage when trying to bluff with it (and you have to bluff with it if you ever want a gank to go off successfully). She's also got a weird trading pattern compared to most other melee toplaners, since she has no real method of retreating after a successful trade (which isn't a problem for Camille, Jax, Renekton, Fiora, etc.) due to a lack of soft CC, a disengage dash, or any kind of speed boost. If I wanted to make her viable in lane, I'd do one or more of the following:
JerryLee posted:If nothing else it's somewhat novel that Riot is trying to add a lane role to a jungler. Most of their attempts to curate roles in the meta take the form of players figuring out how to play a champion outside of their deliberately defined role, and Riot rolling up with sirens blaring to put a stop to that poo poo. They've started making active moves to support champions in multiple roles, with the Morg/Zyra changes a few patches back being their first explicit attempt. Lux and Vi are their next test cases, and they're good choices for different reasons (Lux is already played frequently - if unsuccessfully - as a support; Vi was originally designed as a toplaner, and no one plays her, anyways).
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Endorph posted:when will they make lee sin support viable its already viable mother fucker. strap on your blindfold and dragon kick some rear end
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Apr 6, 2018 19:53
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just a thought, but what if they made vi's q a stationary charge up ability that did damage and stunned in an aoe in front of her, to give her more disruption in a teamfight, made her w a shield that dealt damage after a short time with a passive that gave her permanent max health when nearby minions died, to make her tankier, made her e knockback a minion in a line dealing damage to anyone it hit, to make her able to poke in lane, and made her ult a long range charge/skillshot to help her get back into lane and initiate teamfights. thoughts?
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Apr 6, 2018 20:01
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Breaks my heart that karthus gets huge buffs after I go cold turkey.
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Endorph posted:just a thought, but what if they made vi's q a stationary charge up ability that did damage and stunned in an aoe in front of her, to give her more disruption in a teamfight, made her w a shield that dealt damage after a short time with a passive that gave her permanent max health when nearby minions died, to make her tankier, made her e knockback a minion in a line dealing damage to anyone it hit, to make her able to poke in lane, and made her ult a long range charge/skillshot to help her get back into lane and initiate teamfights. thoughts? Excellent. Needs more punching though.
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Methanar posted:Breaks my heart that karthus gets huge buffs after I go cold turkey. If you aren’t pulling your life together anyway you might as well play. Have some priorities and self control and don’t overindulge.
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The Shortest Path posted:Excellent. Needs more punching though. what if they made her passive that she could keep punching after she dies
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Apr 6, 2018 21:40
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Endorph posted:what if they made her passive that she could keep punching after she dies hm... seems promising, but i think it would be better if she said everything in a really poor impersonation of arnold
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she'll be insanely vulnerable to ganks without any of the lane bullying or 2v1 potential of a darius or urgot. she has absolutely no gap control whatsoever and so unless her numbers are so good that she can just gently caress up anyone she lands a single q on she doesnt really have anything going for her also her only escape is conditional. even jax can jump to a ward or something Vermain posted:It's not that impossible. Vi's two big problems in lane are that she has trouble harassing enemy laners when they're away from the wave (since she's dependent on E for ranged damage), and that the cooldown on Q early is so agonizingly long, and the mana cost so needlessly punishing, that you put yourself at a serious disadvantage when trying to bluff with it (and you have to bluff with it if you ever want a gank to go off successfully). She's also got a weird trading pattern compared to most other melee toplaners, since she has no real method of retreating after a successful trade (which isn't a problem for Camille, Jax, Renekton, Fiora, etc.) due to a lack of soft CC, a disengage dash, or any kind of speed boost. i like 2 and 3 but i dont really think 1 is a good idea. you could easily end up with maokai poppy nautilus syndrome where she'll be able to build tanky and wave clear and just bring the lane to a worthless boring standstill Verviticus fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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Why does she need to be a viable top laner though.
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kingcobweb posted:Why does she need to be a viable top laner though. 
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kingcobweb posted:Why does she need to be a viable top laner though. Something about their goal of having every champion viable in at least 2 roles or whatever.
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Vi is already a support though :thinking:
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kingcobweb posted:Why does she need to be a viable top laner though. I don't think it's a bad thing for champions to have multiple viable roles if you're able to juggle their numbers sufficiently so that making one role viable doesn't make the other one too strong.
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Riot always wants as much diversity as they can but since it’s a competitive game people gravitate to what’s the most powerful at any given patch. It’s a good thing to strive for but basically impossible.
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kingcobweb posted:Why does she need to be a viable top laner though. the reason you want flexible picks is actually to encourage team composition diversity. by having more flexible roles characters with distinctive abilities(vi ult being extremely high up there) can be drafted more easily, allowing for people to build team comps around ability synergy, which makes for a lot more diversity and strategic depth. if vi is only viable as a jungler, and so is say... wukong, and you want a team comp based around vi setting up to target the enemy ADC with wukong going in to follow up, you are hosed. which is not to say that is the best possible strategy but just an example
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ya characters being viable in more places than one seems kinda like a no-brainer to me. i think there's value in having characters that arent good flex picks to give draft maybe another layer but ultimately its more fun when there's more variety assuming the character isnt like a completely boring piece of poo poo like maokai or poppy
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The Poppy rework is the worst thing they've ever done, she's so boring now.
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The Shortest Path posted:The Poppy rework is the worst thing they've ever done, she's so boring now. Actually, she’s very fun as a support and top in my experience.
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The Shortest Path posted:The Poppy rework is the worst thing they've ever done, she's so boring now. 
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trying to make vi a toplaner makes a lot of sense, initiation based ults have mostly been banished up there far away from the action
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More champs in more positions is a good thing so that people will stop yelling at me for going Nami mid Stop cyberbullying me
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Nightgull posted:Actually, she’s very fun as a support and top in my experience. She was a lot more fun when you could press R on some poor sap and murder the gently caress out of them while laughing at the rest of their team, imo. Also rip in piss the old lollipoppy splash art, which will never be forgotten.
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The Shortest Path posted:She was a lot more fun when you could press R on some poor sap and murder the gently caress out of them while laughing at the rest of their team, imo. Also rip in piss the old lollipoppy splash art, which will never be forgotten. I miss this.
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Apr 7, 2018 06:35
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After a few days I have to admit the minion gold change wasn't nearly as dumb as I thought it would be, but then again I'm a top lane onetrick and it might be way worse in mid.
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Bell_ posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nfrWwEMZ9I 
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old poppy was really fun and unique in a way that nobody else was and new poppy is not nearly as interesting. it was cool how poppy had a lot of burst and was surprisingly tanky and her role of anti carry diver is something that has not been properly replaced and will be missed. but the worst rework riot ever did was malzahar because he used to be able to go top, bot, and jungle and build either AP or AD and all of these were serviceable places to put him and now he is only a one dimensional midlaner
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Apr 7, 2018 17:27
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the worst rework riot ever did was mordekaiser because hes literally the exact same as he was before but half as good and with a ton of completely non-functional gimmicks
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Endorph posted:the worst rework riot ever did was mordekaiser because hes literally the exact same as he was before but half as good and with a ton of completely non-functional gimmicks isn't this just half the roster at any moment
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