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Get Money if you fly to Pittsburgh and pay me $60k, I’ll kick you in the balls 5 days a week for 3 years and you’ll get the same experience and only pay half the cost.
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Apr 6, 2018 04:44
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quote:B average in undergrad, LSAT is top 3% Lol
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Apr 6, 2018 04:51
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gently caress yes, this is the good shiiiiittt
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Apr 6, 2018 05:08
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I am told that LLS is maybe less prestigious than Manitoba. Also there are actually legal jobs in Manitoba.
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Apr 6, 2018 05:21
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Roger_Mudd posted:It's me. I'm GET MONEY. I was betting this would be the return of Soothing Vapors if anything. edit: everyone wants to live in California get out we're full
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Apr 6, 2018 05:34
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GET MONEY posted:B average in undergrad, LSAT is top 3%, and I'd graduate in my early 30's. No home or spouse or chains to any particular location. LLS offered $ and I'd be OK with living the rest of my life in southern California or some other perennially warm jurisdiction. UCLA would be fantastic but without scholarship would be hard to justify. Still waiting to hear from BC/Ontario schools but Canada overall is so GPA focused I'm not particularly hopeful. My Canadian alternative right now is three years of penance in Manitoba but I think the cold might drive me insane and the US degree can go farther. I'm guessing based on this comment you have a partial scholarship to like Loyola? 3rd ranked law school in LA could be a bunch of lovely law schools. The only schools that matter in LA are Stanford, Yale, Boalt, Harvard, other T14s, and USC/UCLA (depending on which school they went to) in that order. Then any school with UC in the name (though Irvine has no alumni, so LOL), then any school with a football or basketball team they've heard of. Then like San Diego (you can claim you went for the weather), Loyola, Southwestern, American Samoa, then Laverne. And pepperdine is in there somewhere, but no one gives a poo poo after the football schools. Also, gently caress off, we're full. The only person who's allowed to move here is Mr. Nice and only if he makes us some tacos first.
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Apr 6, 2018 05:56
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I went to Southwestern. It’s pretty good and rising up in the rankings.
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Apr 6, 2018 13:57
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Lote posted:I went to Southwestern. It’s pretty good and rising up in the rankings. Wait you're a doctor though right?
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Apr 6, 2018 14:26
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GET MONEY, seriously there are lots of other careers where you will actually have challenge, changing requirements, and exciting fast paced work. Lawyers, otoh, have the highest % of sociopaths than any other profession, so you always know you’ll be surrounded by the most empathetic and caring people. Your daily work will be almost the exact same thing every day. There isn’t any amount of “coming up with crazy solutions for clients” or arguing really that you’ll do. Even if you end up in court every day, you still don’t really argue in the colloquial sense. You’re rarely if ever going to be one on one trying to convince someone they’re wrong. You will have adversarial confrontation, though. Half the people you deal with will be deliberately acting like a crazy jackass just because it makes them more likely to win. Every one of your peers will have some sort of substance abuse problem, and you will likely develop some vice as well. You aren’t going to be top 25% of your class. I know you’re smart, but the thing is, we’re all smart. Every single one of your competitive peers in law school is just as smart or smarter than you. Plenty of people will write much better than you, and the amount of effort you have to put in to be top of your class will be exceptional. If you want to do any good in the world with your legal education, you’ll never make any money. You’ll make 40-60k/year starting and maybe cap out in a decade or two at a low six figure area. If you want to make money from the law, you’re already behind your competition (they had better grades/LSAT scores and are already in T14 schools) and you’re not likely to catch up. The work that you will do to get there, though, will put you in one of the highest categories (4th by profession) of suicide risk. I know you think you’re doing the right thing and nothing i say will change your mind, but all you’re doing by quitting a comfy yet stale job in tech that already pays better than you’ll likely make as a starting attorney is to significantly increase the chance you’ll be another dead body and another statistic.
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Apr 6, 2018 14:55
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I actually have a job where I make people happy, get some coin and deal with unique situations that directly rely on me for problem solving. Do you want to practice family law? No you do not. Because it's loving terrible.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:08
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He thinks because he was able to earn a 3.0 in undergrad he will now miraculously get a top 25% in law school.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:11
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3.0 in undergrad but high lsat screams smart but lazy. He’s going to ride the top of the bell curve at best.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:13
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CaptainScraps posted:I actually have a job where I make people happy, get some coin and deal with unique situations that directly rely on me for problem solving. I mean, yes every family law case is unique, but they’re also almost all the exact same because people (especially jilted lovers) are universally awful when pitted against one another. Sure the case today might be the first time you ever had the father kidnap both his kids and the step kids, but generally speaking it’s still just dealing with more lovely parent poo poo.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:15
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Mr. Nice! posted:3.0 in undergrad but high lsat screams smart but lazy. He’s going to ride the top of the bell curve at best. Employers hate those because they don't loving grind hours. Here's the secret: law is full of smart people willing to work hard. There are loving tons of them.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:17
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Mr. Nice! posted:3.0 in undergrad but high lsat screams smart but lazy. He’s going to ride the top of the bell curve at best. He got a 169-170 which is good but not great.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:20
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:He thinks because he was able to earn a 3.0 in undergrad he will now miraculously get a top 25% in law school. Any chance grades actually mean something at Canadian Universities? 3.0 in the US means you went to class once and a while and showed up for tests imo. The competition is stiffer. You can no longer count on being smarter or just being able to cram better than 75% of the class. Cannot emphasize enough how obnoxious he’s probably going to find your average LMU law student in LA. E: deleted unposted poo poo post from yesterday Flutieflakes017 fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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Apr 6, 2018 15:23
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Wait you're a doctor though right? Yes. There's a directional Texas school that's ironically in the northeast corner of the state.
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Apr 6, 2018 15:56
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I left law for a much less rote tech career. This guy is doing it backwards and wrong.
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Apr 6, 2018 19:23
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My full ride with expenses covered experience makes me feel pretty confident in my decision, but I didn't have a prior career. I was a 3.4 average with a 167 LSAT. I am average/below average and get crushed by my peers with regards to the number of hours they put in to achieve. This semester I've realized I legitimately have to step up my game if I want to be competitive for cool jobs, and with only one not great semester behind me I am significantly behind the power curve and unlikely to move up. I know I won't crack top 25% simply because other people want that poo poo more than me, and everyone in my class is really loving smart. So go for it! I'm sure you'll ease right into success and will have no regrets.
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Apr 6, 2018 20:58
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I don't know, I would argue that if they were smart, they wouldn't have gone to law school.
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Apr 6, 2018 21:05
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Kawasaki Nun posted:My full ride with expenses covered experience makes me feel pretty confident in my decision, but I didn't have a prior career. Oh boy, it's going to be a fun summer wondering if you did enough to put yourself in a position to get an offer from OCI. Have you nailed down this summer yet?
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Apr 6, 2018 21:26
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Flutieflakes017 posted:Any chance grades actually mean something at Canadian Universities? My deep dark secret is that I got into UBC Law with a 157 LSAT, presumably because I graduated undergrad with like a 90% average. gently caress the LSAT. Afaik no one cares about LSAT scores after you get into law school, but firms were still asking for undergrad transcripts even when I was looking for jobs as a 3y call.
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Apr 6, 2018 21:43
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I've seen some firms ask for law transcripts, undergrad transcripts, and LSAT score. I'm a 5th year lawyer at this point. I'm not giving you poo poo. Also I'll never leave government until I get fired.
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Apr 6, 2018 21:55
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I've seen some firms ask for law transcripts, undergrad transcripts, and LSAT score. I thought, "yeah, me too - oh wait, I graduated in 2010... its been 8 goddamn years already, oh gently caress me "
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Apr 6, 2018 22:02
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CaptainScraps posted:I actually have a job where I make people happy, get some coin and deal with unique situations that directly rely on me for problem solving. As an aside, how often do you go up against pro se's? Based on what I've heard, a majority (!!!) of Las Vegas family court litigants are pro se. Based on litigating against family lawyers in non-family cases, family lawyers seem to take for granted that their opponent is incapable of reading, much less opposing, their arguments. At least that explains their penchant for unsupported arguments and personal-attacks-masquerading-as-motions.
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Apr 6, 2018 22:02
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Unamuno posted:As an aside, how often do you go up against pro se's? Based on what I've heard, a majority (!!!) of Las Vegas family court litigants are pro se. Based on litigating against family lawyers in non-family cases, family lawyers seem to take for granted that their opponent is incapable of reading, much less opposing, their arguments. At least that explains their penchant for unsupported arguments and personal-attacks-masquerading-as-motions. There's a lot of goddamn pro pers. I did restraining order and custody consults in San Diego and now do representation here in the Bay Area and most cases I see are unrepresented. Which, as you guessed, leads to a total shitshow in court. Most attorneys I've encountered seem to not follow that example but there are a few I have to warn clients to be ready to dodge monkey poo poo. I'm lucky in that most judges I am in front of don't humor it.
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Apr 6, 2018 22:26
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Unamuno posted:As an aside, how often do you go up against pro se's? Based on what I've heard, a majority (!!!) of Las Vegas family court litigants are pro se. Based on litigating against family lawyers in non-family cases, family lawyers seem to take for granted that their opponent is incapable of reading, much less opposing, their arguments. At least that explains their penchant for unsupported arguments and personal-attacks-masquerading-as-motions. They're the loving worst. I have to do everything with them kicking and screaming. Even minor things. Good family law attorneys are terrifying. Keep in mind they're in court every day. They're completely at home in a court room, have cross-examined hundreds (if not thousands) of witnesses and can adapt on the fly. Arguments on the law not so much.
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Apr 6, 2018 22:40
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The doctors thread is currently arguing over whether to report a med student (who wants to be a pediatrician) for being a diaper-fetishist furry who apparently likes baby play (I think that's what it means when a furry is with a "cub"). An interesting dilemma. If it were a law student I would say no. But a pediatrician feels different, and I'm not sure why. Their whole job is interacting with children, so any kind of fetish involving pretend baby play seems more heinous.
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Apr 6, 2018 23:44
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GET MONEY posted:Unequivocally way more interested in the latter. The only other job with a similar profile I think I might enjoy is management consulting. Something's strangely appealing about the mix of mind-numbing jargon, adversarial advocacy, and all-encompassing work that leaves no room for life balance. The partner I work most with is from Canada and recently got his citizenship. Therefore you should 100% go to law school. Of course to increase your current pay, make up for the 3 year opportunity cost, and cover your portion of tuition/etc., you'll need to make biglaw. Which means you need to attend a T14 or absolutely slaughter your fellow classmates. Have fun!
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Apr 6, 2018 23:56
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:He thinks because he was able to earn a 3.0 in undergrad he will now miraculously get a top 25% in law school. Hell, if I can do it,
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But seriously, if he popped a 170 hes basically a classic splitter and could potentially scrape his way into Northwestern, Cornell, University of Texas, or UCLA and coast to a miserable 3 or 4 year long biglaw career. I believe.
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Apr 7, 2018 00:10
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Anyone in this thread do business law/formation in California
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Apr 7, 2018 00:19
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Vox Nihili posted:But seriously, if he popped a 170 hes basically a classic splitter and could potentially scrape his way into Northwestern, Cornell, University of Texas, or UCLA and coast to a miserable 3 or 4 year long biglaw career. I believe. Btw key resources for the law school hopefuls: https://www.lstreports.com/schools/ (amazing, unbiased, objective source about admissions and job placement figures by school) http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/index.php (chat with hundreds of fellow suckers and learn if you're getting ripped off, could get a better deal with your scores, etc.)
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Apr 7, 2018 00:24
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You want to practice law someplace warm, you say? I know an island where you’ll never be bored, and where there are plenty of Chinese girls who would love to marry a Canadian.
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Apr 7, 2018 00:29
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:The doctors thread is currently arguing over whether to report a med student (who wants to be a pediatrician) for being a diaper-fetishist furry who apparently likes baby play (I think that's what it means when a furry is with a "cub"). Jus gonna save this one for posterity because lol
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Apr 7, 2018 00:34
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I think the pediatrician wannabe should be reported Phil. I'm sorry if that ruins your career prospects.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Also I'll never leave government until I get fired.  And our employee relations department is so timid to discipline people that the only way to get fired is to get disbarred. So since I don't handle trust funds as government counsel, unless I commit murder or something I'm here until the cold Arctic winds claim my frozen body.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I think the pediatrician wannabe should be reported Phil. I'm sorry if that ruins your career prospects. You’re the one who said pediatricians feel different
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