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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



lancemantis posted:

lol they used to have those at the crosswalk to the school in my neighborhood but they've been removed; just a few bolts in the street now

if that means insane car weirdos gently caress up their tires, im all for it

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

FMguru posted:

http://www.clickhole.com/article/hell-yes-baby-it-special-choo-choo-medicine-called-5932

Hell Yes, Baby, It Is The Special Choo-Choo Medicine Called Coal! The Patriotic Vegetable That Comes From Mountains!!!

this one's not even a joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8Gy-kgL8yA

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ueDHn2HTk

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Jimmy Carter posted:

reminder: Google capitulated to NIMBYs who didn’t want people to drive down ‘their’ roads to see the Hollywood sign

https://gizmodo.com/why-people-keep-trying-to-erase-the-hollywood-sign-from-1658084644

this does bring up that tourist volume is becoming a large problem for lots of sites in the US that were just never really intended for that kind of volume; a big part of this is also due to social media

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
like as an outdoors-y person I'm pretty aware of it wrt wilderness; a number of national parks and monuments and other locations have seen a pretty acute uptick in their visitor volume and its been pretty hard for them to cope, either because they weren't built for the volume or they just can't geographically handle it; places like Muir Woods have moved to things like shuttles and a visitation lottery system like they added to hiking Half Dome years ago

one of the sources of complaints is social media culture is bringing a lot more people in to take their selfies or whatever (more realistically have someone take a photo of them and some other snapshots with $3000+ worth of DSLRs and other AV equipment and then transferring them to post them to instagram/snapchat/whatever); I guess you could say the positive is that the visitor turnover is higher

its had a lot of negative wilderness impacts as well -- new people without good outdoors skills running of trail into sensitive areas for photos, more garbage, negative wildlife interactions, slips and falls and emergencies, etc

some outdoors bloggers and the like have tried to be proactive about posting less specific geographic information with photos in the hope that maybe it will help but who knows; its also resulted in some comedy instagram accounts like @youdidnotsleepthere

for me it's mostly meant getting places earlier and bringing extra pack-out bags for other peoples trash

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug
one thing I've personally noticed is that thanks to online reviews, the top couple of trails are absolutely jam-packed and the others are almost completely empty. It's shifted "day hikers" and similar others straight to the most popular trails because they are the ones that show up as 5 stars or whatever

even here every once in a while we'll get someone showing up in the DC thread asking what is nature-related within driving distance for a day hike, and there are two really popular hikes nearby but we also warn them that if you go on a weekend and it isn't raining you'll experience the on-foot equivalent of DC traffic

I often go rock climbing early on weekend mornings at great falls park and when I roll out around 11a there's a gigantic line of cars sitting on the access road waiting to come in, like 100+ cars sitting at the gate waiting for their turn because they limit traffic to what cars fit in the lots

Bhodi fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Apr 6, 2018

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I guess its probably true of many things now, with the internet and ratings sites abound -- all that computer efficiency, efficiently sorting people into going to certain restaurants and tourist destinations and roads en masse where as before things might work on a more random search and discovery

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)


lol accounts like this drive some people absolutely apeshit

i guess they don't like the idea that their dream life is staged

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
yeah, social media also blends fame and capitalism quite well; its not just a popularity contest, its also a contest that can also make you rich through endorsements/native ads

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
theyve been debating closing Hanging Lake here because it now gets way too many tourists and they do not respect the signs posted everywhere that scream DO NOT TOUCH, JUMP, WADE OR DIP YOUR TOE IN THE WATER. its an incredibly fragile composition and when stupid humans thrash about in it, the lake dies

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

carry on then posted:

lol accounts like this drive some people absolutely apeshit

i guess they don't like the idea that their dream life is staged

also #vanlife -- westfalia's are becoming the new geo metro

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



lmao at yall discovering tourism

protip: always choose spot #3ish

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Jonny 290 posted:

theyve been debating closing Hanging Lake here because it now gets way too many tourists and they do not respect the signs posted everywhere that scream DO NOT TOUCH, JUMP, WADE OR DIP YOUR TOE IN THE WATER. its an incredibly fragile composition and when stupid humans thrash about in it, the lake dies



fuuuck that is beautiful though & fuuuck everyone who ruins it

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Jonny 290 posted:

theyve been debating closing Hanging Lake here because it now gets way too many tourists and they do not respect the signs posted everywhere that scream DO NOT TOUCH, JUMP, WADE OR DIP YOUR TOE IN THE WATER. its an incredibly fragile composition and when stupid humans thrash about in it, the lake dies



wait until a dozen drones are crashed into it

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

lancemantis posted:

also #vanlife -- westfalia's are becoming the new geo metro

i love dragging the van nerds

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

i just got back from a week in yosemite where the weather was crappy with on/off rain but it was loving awesome because there was almost no one there, the trails were all empty but all the waterfalls where swolen and half dome was snow-capped

10/10 would go in late winter again

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Jonny 290 posted:

theyve been debating closing Hanging Lake here because it now gets way too many tourists and they do not respect the signs posted everywhere that scream DO NOT TOUCH, JUMP, WADE OR DIP YOUR TOE IN THE WATER. its an incredibly fragile composition and when stupid humans thrash about in it, the lake dies



reminds me of those dudes who jumped in that one tiny pond in death valley where like 2 fish in the world live and just trashed around in it and threw their beer cans in it :smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzEORQtO-xo

FCKGW fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Apr 6, 2018

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I believe there have been multiple incidents of that happening now; at least some degree of vandalism anyway

those guys were recently sentenced btw http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/2-vandals-of-pupfish-habitat-sentenced/982101864

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

lancemantis posted:

wait until a dozen drones are crashed into it

lol spot on

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
whodaknown that yosposters hate tourism and tourists

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

whodaknown that yosposters hate tourism and tourists

correct, i hate rich and/or white people

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
AAAAAUUUGGGHHH!!! My car! My car is red hot! Elon you rat! How could you give your own customer the ol' spicy Tesla?!

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

whodaknown that yosposters hate tourism and tourists

is this somehow an objectionable position to you?

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
speaking as a frequent tourist, most tourists are poo poo

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

lancemantis posted:

i don't know if you could do much to slow down traffic in my neighborhood for a number of streets outside of installing a lot of speed hills

they aren't even that aesthetic of roads, they are just mostly straight 2-lane residential streets -- which they added on-street parking accommodation to because this is an american suburb and nobody can park in their garage and owns 3-4+ vehicles so there's not enough driveway space even with them paving half their yards, and then there are bike lanes too because why shouldn't people be able to ride a bike in their neighborhood and now those 2 lane residential streets are 4+ lanes wide and people shift into freeway mode and haul rear end down them

right off the bat, bike lanes are a sign that the road is way too wide and the speed limit is either set too high or just totally ineffective. if there is room for a bike lane, the street is too wide and drivers are going to speed like motherfuckers no matter what else you do

on a residential street, traffic should be slow enough that cyclists are comfortable filtering into mixed traffic -- 20 mph or less.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Cold on a Cob posted:

speaking as a frequent tourist, most tourists are poo poo

im the only non-poo poo tourist in yospos

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Cold on a Cob posted:

speaking as a frequent tourist, most tourists are poo poo

tourists are awesome

every dollar a tourist pays in hotel tax is a dollar i'm not paying in income tax

(this is one of many reasons airbnb is horrible)

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
tourists please continue to come to maine and leave your money tia.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
no way shaggar i know what kind of hosed up poo poo happens there from reading all those history books by that stephen king dude.

no way

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

right off the bat, bike lanes are a sign that the road is way too wide and the speed limit is either set too high or just totally ineffective. if there is room for a bike lane, the street is too wide and drivers are going to speed like motherfuckers no matter what else you do

on a residential street, traffic should be slow enough that cyclists are comfortable filtering into mixed traffic -- 20 mph or less.

sharrows are trash

use speed bumps and traffic circles as traffic calming measures

i was in france and we drove the length of lake annecy and there wasn't a single traffic light the entire length of this massive tourist destination, just traffic circles. The traffic flowed smoothly the entire way, at a steady, manageable speed.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

sharrows are trash

this goon speaks the truth.

also, bumpouts 4 lyfe

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
speed bumps slow down ambulances which kills olds so i’m all for them

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

speed bumps slow down ambulances which kills olds so i’m all for them

lol. you’d love kalamazoo then. downtown is 100% bisected by railroad tracks and the freight trains sometimes sit there and block traffic for crazy amounts of time.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2017/12/pattern_of_trains_blocking_kal.html

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

sharrows are trash

use speed bumps and traffic circles as traffic calming measures

i don't mind sharrows because they are usually painted on streets where traffic moves slowly enough for my fat rear end on a bicycle to be able to keep up with cars

speed bumps, on the other hand, really suck to go over on a bicycle

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Notorious b.s.d. posted:

tourists are awesome

every dollar a tourist pays in hotel tax is a dollar i'm not paying in income tax

wtf, explain

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Notorious b.s.d. posted:

speed bumps, on the other hand, really suck to go over on a bicycle

hell no, just pull on your handlebars at the exact right moment & its awesome

alt.

wtf, how come you dont ride a mountainbike?

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

Krankenstyle posted:

hell no, just pull on your handlebars at the exact right moment & its awesome

that’s excitbike. ur thinking of excitebike.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Krankenstyle posted:

wtf, explain

hotel taxes are an extremely lucrative source of revenue that local residents never have to pay

every dollar collected from a tourist is a dollar they are not looking at me to provide

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Krankenstyle posted:

wtf, explain
nevada is able to keep its state taxes super low because every week and every weekend people fly in from all over the country to literally throw money away in their casinos. hotel tax, gambling tax, car rental tax, airport tax, event ticket tax - they all concentrate the pain of taxation on visitors and non-locals. its a hell of a racket and the other 49 states are incredibly jealous (its the reason that there will never be a high speed rail line linking los angeles and las vegas)

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Krankenstyle posted:

wtf, explain

i assume he lives in hell state florida, where we've replaced state-level income taxes with really high hotel taxes

e: and nevada, forgot about them

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