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Quote-Unquote: Oct 22, 2002

Iron Crowned posted:

Barney got boring when he quit drinking.

Speaking of which, has Homer run a microbrewery yet?

Homer made booze at home in one of the best episodes ever

# ? Apr 8, 2018 17:41

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 02:26

SEX BURRITO: Jun 30, 2007; Not much fun

There�s a newish one where homer makes moonshine. It�s the one where Lisa becomes a Wiccan.

# ? Apr 8, 2018 18:22

THE BAR: Oct 20, 2011; You know what might look better on your nose?

SEX BURRITO posted:

It�s the one where Lisa becomes a Wiccan.

And gets punished for it, I assume.

# ? Apr 8, 2018 20:22

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

SEX BURRITO posted:

There�s a newish one where homer makes moonshine. It�s the one where Lisa becomes a Wiccan.

The Simpson family becomes helplessly stuck in traffic while returning from a ski vacation. To pass the time, Bart, Lisa and Maggie spend hours playing the repetitive and noisy game "Bonk-It", much to Marge and Homer's annoyance. Homer loses his patience and throws the toy out the window, where it is crushed by passing vehicles. By a twist of fate, another father throws his children's Bonk-It out of a car window, and it lands in the hands of the Simpson children. Eventually the batteries run out, but Bart plugs the toy into the car's cigarette lighter, causing it to play even faster. His patience long gone, Homer smashes the Bonk-It with his foot, but it becomes lodged under the brake pedal. He loses control of the vehicle, hits a deer reminiscent of Bambi and ends up on a frozen lake, where a mysterious person drags them out. When the family wakes up, they discover that the mysterious person who saved them was Cletus. Cletus tells Homer about moonshine, and invites him to taste the latest batch. Homer impresses Cletus and his hillbilly friends with his moonshine-tasting skills and is invited to be the judge of a moonshine competition.

Meanwhile, Bart and Cletus's sons play with a box of grenades that Cletus's wife Brandine, a former soldier, had brought back from Iraq, and Lisa plays hide and seek with Cletus's daughters. They do not find her, and Lisa gets lost in the woods. Trying to find her way back, she encounters three girls who are Wiccans, practicing their full moon Esbat. Lisa is initially skeptical of their ability to cast spells, but becomes interested after she happens to mention in the witches' Circle that she wishes she did not have to hand in her unfinished art project, and her wish comes true when Miss Hoover is taken ill with a stomach virus. The girls ask Lisa to join their coven and she accepts, but on the night of Lisa's induction, Chief Wiggum turns up after being tipped off by Ned Flanders and arrests the three girls on suspicion of witchcraft. Outside the courtroom, the girls say a chant, asking their goddess to 'show their persecutors that they are blind'. Many of the townspeople then suddenly become blind, and blame the three girls, who are then put on trial. When the judge dismisses the case, the townspeople decide to take the law into their own hands, and wish to drown the girls in an impromptu witch trial. Lisa, however, proves that the real culprits behind the town's temporary blindness are Homer and his friends, who threw their moonshine in to the town's reservoir after thinking that they were about to be arrested by the police. The girls are released, and Homer entertains himself by using the witch-dunking chair to binge drink the moonshine water, but falls off the chair into the river.

The episode ends with Lisa ice-skating on the frozen river to the song "Season of the Witch" while her skates carve a hole in the ice that frees Homer.

# ? Apr 8, 2018 20:27

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

I keep reading that episode summary and laughing, but not for the reasons the show thinks it's funny.

# ? Apr 8, 2018 20:28

Mugsbaloney: Jul 11, 2012; We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Whats the problem, can't use Google?

# ? Apr 8, 2018 22:13

Wizard Master: Mar 25, 2008

FactsAreUseless posted:

The Simpson family becomes helplessly stuck in traffic while returning from a ski vacation. To pass the time, Bart, Lisa and Maggie spend hours playing the repetitive and noisy game "Bonk-It", much to Marge and Homer's annoyance. Homer loses his patience and throws the toy out the window, where it is crushed by passing vehicles. By a twist of fate, another father throws his children's Bonk-It out of a car window, and it lands in the hands of the Simpson children. Eventually the batteries run out, but Bart plugs the toy into the car's cigarette lighter, causing it to play even faster. His patience long gone, Homer smashes the Bonk-It with his foot, but it becomes lodged under the brake pedal. He loses control of the vehicle, hits a deer reminiscent of Bambi and ends up on a frozen lake, where a mysterious person drags them out. When the family wakes up, they discover that the mysterious person who saved them was Cletus. Cletus tells Homer about moonshine, and invites him to taste the latest batch. Homer impresses Cletus and his hillbilly friends with his moonshine-tasting skills and is invited to be the judge of a moonshine competition.

Meanwhile, Bart and Cletus's sons play with a box of grenades that Cletus's wife Brandine, a former soldier, had brought back from Iraq, and Lisa plays hide and seek with Cletus's daughters. They do not find her, and Lisa gets lost in the woods. Trying to find her way back, she encounters three girls who are Wiccans, practicing their full moon Esbat. Lisa is initially skeptical of their ability to cast spells, but becomes interested after she happens to mention in the witches' Circle that she wishes she did not have to hand in her unfinished art project, and her wish comes true when Miss Hoover is taken ill with a stomach virus. The girls ask Lisa to join their coven and she accepts, but on the night of Lisa's induction, Chief Wiggum turns up after being tipped off by Ned Flanders and arrests the three girls on suspicion of witchcraft. Outside the courtroom, the girls say a chant, asking their goddess to 'show their persecutors that they are blind'. Many of the townspeople then suddenly become blind, and blame the three girls, who are then put on trial. When the judge dismisses the case, the townspeople decide to take the law into their own hands, and wish to drown the girls in an impromptu witch trial. Lisa, however, proves that the real culprits behind the town's temporary blindness are Homer and his friends, who threw their moonshine in to the town's reservoir after thinking that they were about to be arrested by the police. The girls are released, and Homer entertains himself by using the witch-dunking chair to binge drink the moonshine water, but falls off the chair into the river.

The episode ends with Lisa ice-skating on the frozen river to the song "Season of the Witch" while her skates carve a hole in the ice that frees Homer.

# ? Apr 8, 2018 22:35

Dapper_Swindler: Feb 14, 2012; Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

FactsAreUseless posted:

The Simpson family becomes helplessly stuck in traffic while returning from a ski vacation. To pass the time, Bart, Lisa and Maggie spend hours playing the repetitive and noisy game "Bonk-It", much to Marge and Homer's annoyance. Homer loses his patience and throws the toy out the window, where it is crushed by passing vehicles. By a twist of fate, another father throws his children's Bonk-It out of a car window, and it lands in the hands of the Simpson children. Eventually the batteries run out, but Bart plugs the toy into the car's cigarette lighter, causing it to play even faster. His patience long gone, Homer smashes the Bonk-It with his foot, but it becomes lodged under the brake pedal. He loses control of the vehicle, hits a deer reminiscent of Bambi and ends up on a frozen lake, where a mysterious person drags them out. When the family wakes up, they discover that the mysterious person who saved them was Cletus. Cletus tells Homer about moonshine, and invites him to taste the latest batch. Homer impresses Cletus and his hillbilly friends with his moonshine-tasting skills and is invited to be the judge of a moonshine competition.

Meanwhile, Bart and Cletus's sons play with a box of grenades that Cletus's wife Brandine, a former soldier, had brought back from Iraq, and Lisa plays hide and seek with Cletus's daughters. They do not find her, and Lisa gets lost in the woods. Trying to find her way back, she encounters three girls who are Wiccans, practicing their full moon Esbat. Lisa is initially skeptical of their ability to cast spells, but becomes interested after she happens to mention in the witches' Circle that she wishes she did not have to hand in her unfinished art project, and her wish comes true when Miss Hoover is taken ill with a stomach virus. The girls ask Lisa to join their coven and she accepts, but on the night of Lisa's induction, Chief Wiggum turns up after being tipped off by Ned Flanders and arrests the three girls on suspicion of witchcraft. Outside the courtroom, the girls say a chant, asking their goddess to 'show their persecutors that they are blind'. Many of the townspeople then suddenly become blind, and blame the three girls, who are then put on trial. When the judge dismisses the case, the townspeople decide to take the law into their own hands, and wish to drown the girls in an impromptu witch trial. Lisa, however, proves that the real culprits behind the town's temporary blindness are Homer and his friends, who threw their moonshine in to the town's reservoir after thinking that they were about to be arrested by the police. The girls are released, and Homer entertains himself by using the witch-dunking chair to binge drink the moonshine water, but falls off the chair into the river.

The episode ends with Lisa ice-skating on the frozen river to the song "Season of the Witch" while her skates carve a hole in the ice that frees Homer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhe3vSe-mmw

# ? Apr 9, 2018 00:02

pram: Jun 10, 2001

Hrist posted:

But who can forget the great new side character that very same episode gave us?

We'll never need Poochy again with this guy around.

lol

# ? Apr 9, 2018 01:19

Damo: Nov 8, 2002; The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.; Offensive Clock

FactsAreUseless posted:

The Simpson family becomes helplessly stuck in traffic while returning from a ski vacation. To pass the time, Bart, Lisa and Maggie spend hours playing the repetitive and noisy game "Bonk-It", much to Marge and Homer's annoyance. Homer loses his patience and throws the toy out the window, where it is crushed by passing vehicles. By a twist of fate, another father throws his children's Bonk-It out of a car window, and it lands in the hands of the Simpson children. Eventually the batteries run out, but Bart plugs the toy into the car's cigarette lighter, causing it to play even faster. His patience long gone, Homer smashes the Bonk-It with his foot, but it becomes lodged under the brake pedal. He loses control of the vehicle, hits a deer reminiscent of Bambi and ends up on a frozen lake, where a mysterious person drags them out. When the family wakes up, they discover that the mysterious person who saved them was Cletus. Cletus tells Homer about moonshine, and invites him to taste the latest batch. Homer impresses Cletus and his hillbilly friends with his moonshine-tasting skills and is invited to be the judge of a moonshine competition.

Meanwhile, Bart and Cletus's sons play with a box of grenades that Cletus's wife Brandine, a former soldier, had brought back from Iraq, and Lisa plays hide and seek with Cletus's daughters. They do not find her, and Lisa gets lost in the woods. Trying to find her way back, she encounters three girls who are Wiccans, practicing their full moon Esbat. Lisa is initially skeptical of their ability to cast spells, but becomes interested after she happens to mention in the witches' Circle that she wishes she did not have to hand in her unfinished art project, and her wish comes true when Miss Hoover is taken ill with a stomach virus. The girls ask Lisa to join their coven and she accepts, but on the night of Lisa's induction, Chief Wiggum turns up after being tipped off by Ned Flanders and arrests the three girls on suspicion of witchcraft. Outside the courtroom, the girls say a chant, asking their goddess to 'show their persecutors that they are blind'. Many of the townspeople then suddenly become blind, and blame the three girls, who are then put on trial. When the judge dismisses the case, the townspeople decide to take the law into their own hands, and wish to drown the girls in an impromptu witch trial. Lisa, however, proves that the real culprits behind the town's temporary blindness are Homer and his friends, who threw their moonshine in to the town's reservoir after thinking that they were about to be arrested by the police. The girls are released, and Homer entertains himself by using the witch-dunking chair to binge drink the moonshine water, but falls off the chair into the river.

The episode ends with Lisa ice-skating on the frozen river to the song "Season of the Witch" while her skates carve a hole in the ice that frees Homer.

wait, sorry. bear with me. i've never read this thread, jumped to the last page and scrolled back a little bit and read this. is this actually a real episode of the animated television series called "the simpsons"? or did you make this up, as i am hoping you did?

if it somehow is real, what is the title of the episode?

# ? Apr 9, 2018 01:25

Horseshoe theory: Mar 7, 2005

Hrist posted:

But who can forget the great new side character that very same episode gave us?

We'll never need Poochy again with this guy around.

Is that Homsar's relative...? :raise:

# ? Apr 9, 2018 01:27

Jikes: Dec 18, 2005; candy of the ocean

Damo posted:

wait, sorry. bear with me. i've never read this thread, jumped to the last page and scrolled back a little bit and read this. is this actually a real episode of the animated television series called "the simpsons"? or did you make this up, as i am hoping you did?

if it somehow is real, what is the title of the episode?

"Rednecks and Broomsticks"

http://pixa.club/en/the-simpsons/season-21/epizod-7-rednecks-and-broomsticks

# ? Apr 9, 2018 01:49

muscles like this!: Jan 17, 2005

Horseshoe theory posted:

Is that Homsar's relative...?

Bart made it by cutting out the lower half of Homer's face from his driver's license and then adding "eyes" to his chin.

He did this because Lisa became obsessed with Olympic mascot pins so hard that she traded away her pearl necklace to get more and this was Bart's attempt to scam the crooked pin salesman to get the necklace back.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 02:20

Scudworth: Jan 1, 2005; When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and make super lemons.; Dinosaur Gum

Damo posted:

wait, sorry. bear with me. i've never read this thread, jumped to the last page and scrolled back a little bit and read this. is this actually a real episode of the animated television series called "the simpsons"? or did you make this up, as i am hoping you did?

if it somehow is real, what is the title of the episode?

You should start from the beginning of the thread, every time a new episode plot comes up it seems like a joke and it never is.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 02:48

Uncle Wemus: Mar 4, 2004

https://twitter.com/soham_burger/status/983200703660351488

# ? Apr 9, 2018 07:31

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

Uncle Wemus posted:

https://twitter.com/soham_burger/status/983200703660351488

What? The writers and even Apu�s voice actor knew the character was offensive even back then but went with it since they thought it was still funny.

Of course modern Simpsons would respond in the dumbest way possible.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 07:38

Drink-Mix Man: Mar 4, 2003; You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Admittedly it's easy for me to say because I'm not Indian, but Apu as an ethnic caricature in the golden seasons always seemed borderline offensive but in good jest. Like they played the stereotype up for occasional gags and the fact that they went there was part of the joke. I think the joke only got genuinely offensive around season 9-10 or so when they kept going deeper into that well for stories like his arranged marriage (complete with Homer dressed like bumbling Ganesh), plus doing poo poo like illustrating his apartment as having doors that look like an Indian palace or whatever.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 08:21

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

The funny thing about South Asian shopkeepers irl isn't that they've got heavy accents (though a lot and maybe most the of first generation one's absolutely do) but that their kids that they put to work or who take over the business always speak perfect regional english. Show wise, I think the most racist thing about Apu isn't his accent but rather other stuff, like most of the things related to being Indian or Hindu and crossing over that the stereotypes of being thrifty to the point of neglecting food safety statutes and ripping people off.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 08:45

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Like there's nothing wrong with having religious statues in their store but if you're implying they're all giddy to rip you off well....

# ? Apr 9, 2018 08:47

Zulily Zoetrope: Jun 1, 2011; Muldoon

Apu has always been hell of offensive, and there's been groups against offensive stereotypes that have been campaigning against him from the start. I'm sure his portrayal in the Bad Simpsons is much worse than in the Golden Years, but that doesn't exonerate the latter. I never had a beef with Apu when I was watching the show, but that was mostly because I was too young and uninformed to realize just how damaging a caricature can be even when the character is portrayed as sympathetic.

Jikes posted:

"Rednecks and Broomsticks"

http://pixa.club/en/the-simpsons/season-21/epizod-7-rednecks-and-broomsticks

The summary cuts out all the interstitial Family Guy-quality jokes, and is a far more pleasant experience than following that link.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 10:03

Strudel Man: May 19, 2003; ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Milo and POTUS posted:

Like there's nothing wrong with having religious statues in their store but if you're implying they're all giddy to rip you off well....

Essentially everyone on the simpsons is professionally corrupt, though. Apu is not at all unusual in that regard.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 10:51

Riptor: Apr 13, 2003; here's to feelin' good all the time

Uncle Wemus posted:

https://twitter.com/soham_burger/status/983200703660351488

That really is a tremendously lovely and lazy way to address the whole issue, god drat

# ? Apr 9, 2018 13:13

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

Damo posted:

wait, sorry. bear with me. i've never read this thread, jumped to the last page and scrolled back a little bit and read this. is this actually a real episode of the animated television series called "the simpsons"? or did you make this up, as i am hoping you did?

if it somehow is real, what is the title of the episode?

It's real, and get this: I also posted it because I jumped to the last page and scrolled a bit and saw someone say something about Lisa becoming Wiccan so I looked it up.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 13:40

Bum the Sad: Aug 25, 2002; by VideoGames; Hell Gem

Cletus the slack jawed yokel is offensive to white people too and must be removed. There must be no negative characters of any type.

Strudel Man posted:

Essentially everyone on the simpsons is professionally corrupt, though. Apu is not at all unusual in that regard.

This is true. Pretty much every character is a piece of poo poo at work. From the Mayor to the Police chief to Moe to Homer.

I think Lenny and Carl are the only characters with jobs that aren�t grossly negligent.

Bum the Sad fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 9, 2018

# ? Apr 9, 2018 13:48

coolskull: Nov 11, 2007

lol they�ve talked before about how the original script notes from matt groening specified the convenience store clerk wasn�t supposed to be indian, but went ahead because the voice was funny. own up to your decisions, you jerks

# ? Apr 9, 2018 14:13

Razorwired: Dec 7, 2008; It's about to start!

Turns out the lowest point of the Simpsons is when Hari Kondabula correctly predicted that most would loudly critique The Problem With Apu without actually watching it.

He likes the show and is a fan of a lot of the people that made it. Its more about being served an ice cream sundae with a cat turd shoved into one end than anything.

Kal Penn made a whole movie about Indians only being allowed to act as clerks and doctors like 14 years ago. There's a scene where he drops "Thank you, come again!" in an exaggerated accent as a gently caress you. Apu being a racist stereotype isn't a new idea.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 14:48

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

Watched the new one.

Bart wants to go a Minecraft convention and Homer won't let him, so he reads The Art of War and uses it to mentally break Homer. Daniel Radcliffe has a cameo at the convention where he gets swarmed by fans.

Marge decides to read Lisa her favorite book from her childhood. It turns out she forgot how racist it was. Marge starts editing out the racist parts. Marge characterizes this as "taking the spirit and character out of the book". Lisa objects that the new character is already perfect, therefore has no journey to complete. Then they do the Apu thing. Then they go to the university where a couple Ph.D.s tell her that the author was a lesbian who was writing a self-satire of her upbringing.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 14:49

Hrist: Feb 21, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

As far as the Apu thing, I feel like most of the time it's just people looking for something to complain about. Yeah, old stereotype, whatever.

I'm Italian, and I love the mob guys. Johnny Tightlips is one of my favorite things on the show. I imagine Apu is kind of the same level of 'racist' as they're supposed to be. I'd just feel stupid if I saw them as offensive though. :shrug:

# ? Apr 9, 2018 14:58

really queer Christmas: Apr 22, 2014

PostNouveau posted:

Watched the new one.

Why?

# ? Apr 9, 2018 15:01

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

really queer Christmas posted:

Why?

# ? Apr 9, 2018 15:29

THE BAR: Oct 20, 2011; You know what might look better on your nose?

PostNouveau posted:

# ? Apr 9, 2018 15:38

Riptor: Apr 13, 2003; here's to feelin' good all the time

Bum the Sad posted:

Cletus the slack jawed yokel is offensive to white people too and must be removed. There must be no negative characters of any type.

oh honey

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:03

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Bum the Sad posted:

Cletus the slack jawed yokel is offensive to white people too and must be removed. There must be no negative characters of any type.
This is true. Pretty much every character is a piece of poo poo at work. From the Mayor to the Police chief to Moe to Homer.

I think Lenny and Carl are the only characters with jobs that aren’t grossly negligent.

Apu is voiced by a white guy doing a racist accent

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:06

Detective No. 27: Jun 7, 2006

The solution to the Apu Problem is to end The Simpsons.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:07

FactsAreUseless: Feb 16, 2011

Improbable Lobster posted:

Apu is voiced by a white guy doing a racist accent

Lol you responded to a Bum the Sad post.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:12

khwarezm: Oct 26, 2010; Deal with it.

Detective No. 27 posted:

The solution to the Apu Problem is to end The Simpsons.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:18

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

FactsAreUseless posted:

Lol you responded to a Bum the Sad post.

I don't know who that is. I also don't care so don't explain it.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:39

CodfishCartographer: Feb 23, 2010; Gadus Maprocephalus; Pillbug

Honestly yeah, the simpsons has quite a few racist stereotypes. Whether it�s offensive or not is up probably up for debate, but they�ve always been very stereotypical. But the show is (was) funny so I�ve just kind of accepted it as a flaw the show has.

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:48

Ritznit: Dec 19, 2012; I'm crackers for cheese.; Ultra Carp

Definitely the panda rape. That went beyond "wellmeaning though flawed" (e.g. the questionable stereotypes and such) and just right into "what the hell am I watching" territory.

EDIT:

Uncle Wemus posted:

https://twitter.com/soham_burger/status/983200703660351488

Hahaha what the gently caress

Okay I've seen this now and that's a strong contender for lowest point.

Ritznit fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Apr 9, 2018

# ? Apr 9, 2018 16:57

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 02:26

THE BAR: Oct 20, 2011; You know what might look better on your nose?

Uncle Wemus posted:

https://twitter.com/soham_burger/status/983200703660351488

What the gently caress happened to Marge's voice?

What the hell's wrong with that nodding "animation"?? :gonk:

# ? Apr 9, 2018 17:39

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