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Tetracube posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoAlZX0VJos Holy loving poo poo, how and why does it even keep getting better
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That also applies to my romantic life
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Ariong posted:I never noticed before that Dogwelder actually got close enough to the unknowable eldritch abomination to weld a dog to it. 
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Apr 9, 2018 02:26
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Lobo is the best DC character hands down. Except for that one time he came back as skinny emo Lobo. If DC wants to get on the Deadpool, R rated movie train, they need to make a Lobo movie. Actually they don't even need to because he doesn't actually swear, he uses fake swears because they wanted him to be edgy even back when there was still the Comic Code. He's like the Battlestar Galactica of comics but actually decent. DiggityDoink has a new favorite as of 06:42 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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DiggityDoink posted:If DC wants to get on the Deadpool, R rated movie train, they need to make a Lobo movie. Horrible news, everyone! http://collider.com/michael-bay-lobo-movie/ it probably won't ever get made
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Memento posted:Horrible news, everyone! Oh goddamnit, I hope that never gets made. Michael Bay is a lovely filmmaker who can't do a loving thing without CGI.
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DiggityDoink posted:Oh goddamnit, I hope that never gets made. Michael Bay is a lovely filmmaker who can't do a loving thing without CGI. His entire body of work is consistent on this. Pain & Gain is a great movie and Armageddon got selected for the Criterion collection entirely on its technical merits. He *is* passively racist and actively sexist though, don't get me wrong.
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mind the walrus posted:Michael Bay is a genius filmmaker (no lie), but he is an industrial-grade nihilist. He views the material he directs as a way to play with high-budget filmmaking equipment and/or showcase how absolutely terrible the world and everyone in it are. I would like to put up the entire Transformers franchise against what you are saying, because they were not made by a genius film maker. They were made by a loving hack.
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Or someone with a colossal and not-unfounded hatred for the source material who knows they're making a garbage summer blockbuster for manchildren and just wants to make super intricate CGI happen. I mean, I really don't have an opinion on Bay one way or the other but nothing about the Transformers movies really screws with mind the walrus' take. There had to be at least some self awareness to be able to attain that level of utter and complete poo poo. Those movies actively try to be bad.
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DiggityDoink posted:I would like to put up the entire Transformers franchise against what you are saying, because they were not made by a genius film maker. They were made by a loving hack. CineD did a shot-by-shot breakdown a few years ago and while I'll be the first to say that lots of those guys are gimmicks who mistake the trees for the forest, the analysis makes an amazing argument for Michael Bay as a technician. Then watch his original material, particularly Bad Boys 2 and Pain & Gain. He comes alive and shows such naked contempt for every single character and you realize half of the hacky stuff he does like the explosions are his way of coping with his unabashed misanthropy. Like look I remember being an autistic little boy scouring the internet in the late 90s for Transformers fan-pages and harrassing the gently caress out of the lead writer for Beast Machines for "ruining the franchise." I remember the horror when I saw how Bay interpreted the material in 2007. I get it. I really, really do. It has been 11 years and 5 movies later. Grow up and find the silver lining.
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"Grow up and start enjoying garbage movies"
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mind the walrus posted:Yes, they were. He just did not give a gently caress about the end product beyond what would sell and get him funding. The rest was figuring out inventive and yes, genius ways to stage, light, frame, and shoot the crap the script called for. The second you brought CineD into this you lost.
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Samuringa posted:"Grow up and start enjoying garbage movies" Also lmfao at the weak poo poo "the moment you brought CineD into this." Alright champ you sure shoved me into a cul de sac with that one. Enjoy swimming in the shallow end of the pool.
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My love for Water World is eternal and true. I'm shocked gifs of the oil guy and the flare drop aren't being memed to death.
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I haven't seen Pain & Gain, but the Every Frame a Painting guy seemed to make a compelling point that Bay is a prisoner of his own style when his characters say basically that less is more as they sit on a (seemingly private) pier in Miami while a speedboat races by.
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mind the walrus posted:Who said enjoy? I don't like the Transformers movies at all. I also recognize good craftsmanship and Michael Bay's other work indicates a scarily talented filmmaker who truly does not give a gently caress about his content. I let go of the inner kid mad about giving the cartoon truck man lips instead of a face plate. Michael Bay has absolute contempt for his characters, plots and audience. Once you realize this you can appreciate the effort he puts into giving everyone involved in his movies a perfectly-crafted cgi middle finger.
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Afriscipio posted:Michael Bay has absolute contempt for his characters, plots and audience. Once you realize this you can appreciate the effort he puts into giving everyone involved in his movies a perfectly-crafted cgi middle finger. Isn't it the filmmaker's job to get into the audience's head, not the other way around?
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crime fighting hog posted:My love for Water World is eternal and true. I saw Waterworld on TV when I was a kiddo and I seem to remember it was a good movie. I haven't had the balls to rewatch it since, not after doing that to Postman.
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Sormus posted:I saw Waterworld on TV when I was a kiddo and I seem to remember it was a good movie. I haven't had the balls to rewatch it since, not after doing that to Postman. Same, but with Batman & Robin instead of Postman.
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Batman & Robin is a great movie, if you skip every part that doesn't have Arnold making puns. And faces! I forgot how expressive he is in this. Basically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkTHtWX7CCY Sormus has a new favorite as of 11:31 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Tetracube posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoAlZX0VJos 
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Dave Grool posted:Isn't it the filmmaker's job to get into the audience's head, not the other way around?
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Hyperlynx posted:Same, but with Batman & Robin instead of Postman.
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mind the walrus posted:Batman & Robin is great fun if you view it as what it is-- a homosexual version of the Adam West show drenched in 90s neon. I don't understand. What's changed?
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Slime posted:I don't understand. What's changed? They upgraded to leather
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I think I'll just stick to watching good films by people who care about what they're making tbh
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mind the walrus posted:Yes, they were. He just did not give a gently caress about the end product beyond what would sell and get him funding. The rest was figuring out inventive and yes, genius ways to stage, light, frame, and shoot the crap the script called for. jesus christ dude Michael has made zero good movies since The Rock in 1996 and that movie was only good because it had good actors in it playing off eachother so well. It was also only "good" in the sense that it was schlocky 90's action stuff
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maybe just enjoy tv/movies/music you find enjoyable and let other people do the same except anime. delete all of it.
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So, if Michael Bay is a genius, that means the horrendously bad framing and editing in action sequences that make it impossible to follow the flow of action from one shot to the next is purposeful? I dunno. Even if you're technically brilliant and you just hate what you do so all the bad choices are on purpose, still seems like that makes you a bad filmmaker. The racism kind of cancels out you being good with cameras, too.
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