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iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Basticle posted:

Where do you see that?

Racer article and the official IMSA press release.

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Dudley
Feb 24, 2003

Tasty

Feels Villeneuve posted:

I had no idea TVR still existed.

They don't really, or rather they were dormant for several years.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

So on this week’s IndyCar podcast Marshall Pruett made mention that apparently Dario Franchitti was set to run with the Porsche P1 team before taking flight and drat near killing himself in Houston. I’ve never heard that link, but I really wonder what their driver lineup would’ve been - Dario and Bad Luck Mark anchoring one car or split? Who of their GT drivers doesn’t get the call up? Would Hartley be in F1 now without that accident? Interesting at least to think about.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
WEC prologue test is underway at Paul Ricard, Toyota have the early lead, with a best lap gap of about 4 seconds to the top privateers, who are running about a second a lap faster than all the P2s, save for ByKolles, whom Pastor Maldonado is ahead of by a second in the Dragonspeed P2

Hulebr00670065006e
Apr 20, 2010

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

WEC prologue test is underway at Paul Ricard, Toyota have the early lead, with a best lap gap of about 4 seconds to the top privateers, who are running about a second a lap faster than all the P2s, save for ByKolles, whom Pastor Maldonado is ahead of by a second in the Dragonspeed P2

Got any idea how soon LMGTEs show true pace cause so far Aston Martin looks awfully slow.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

WEC prologue test is underway at Paul Ricard, Toyota have the early lead, with a best lap gap of about 4 seconds to the top privateers, who are running about a second a lap faster than all the P2s, save for ByKolles, whom Pastor Maldonado is ahead of by a second in the Dragonspeed P2

ByKolles is insanely awful.

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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Frond posted:

ByKolles is insanely awful.

That's an understatement.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Kolles is now on the pace of the P1Ls, but of course at the back. Notably, I think they are running their low downforce configuration, so that accounts for a little bit of that, but oneboth of the SMP cars are also running LDF and are P3 and 4

E: no. 5 ginetta still hasn't moved, to be fair it was a number of crates full of bits last night

e2: both SMP BR1s are running LDF, and the Dragonspeed BR1is in HDF

MazeOfTzeentch fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Apr 6, 2018

Hulebr00670065006e
Apr 20, 2010
Any of you know if there is any limit to fuel and hybrid usage per lap during the prologue or if that is only during the races?

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Hulebr00670065006e posted:

Got any idea how soon LMGTEs show true pace cause so far Aston Martin looks awfully slow.

In GTE, you never ever show your true pace until it’s too late for them to BoP you for lemans.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Cygni posted:

In GTE, you never ever show your true pace until it’s too late for them to BoP you for lemans.

I'll be damned if this ain't the truth.

However, they've only been able to do private testing so far - no works Astons for IMSA and the 36 Hours of Florida, so no competition debut as of yet.

Hulebr00670065006e posted:

Any of you know if there is any limit to fuel and hybrid usage per lap during the prologue or if that is only during the races?

Apparently at least one team has been doing some work without restrictions! Will be interesting to see those practice and qualifying sessions at Spa...

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit
if they manage to balance the Toyota and the rest of the LMP1 field it will be a drat miracle

what's their intention, just let the TS050 pull on everyone coming out of the corners with its hybrid system and then hope the non-hybrids are fast enough in the straights to run it down?

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

an oddly awful oud posted:

if they manage to balance the Toyota and the rest of the LMP1 field it will be a drat miracle

what's their intention, just let the TS050 pull on everyone coming out of the corners with its hybrid system and then hope the non-hybrids are fast enough in the straights to run it down?

They want the gap close enough to flatter the privateers and make it look like they can win (if Toyota poo poo everything up and lose Le Mans again) while not actually going all in and making that happen.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
If they equalize the pace, the toyotas will win by not spending as much time in the pits, by burning less fuel. They're running like 65% less fuel energy than the privateers under the initial EoT.

e: unless they give toyota a drinking straw to take on fuel with.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

an oddly awful oud posted:

if they manage to balance the Toyota and the rest of the LMP1 field it will be a drat miracle

what's their intention, just let the TS050 pull on everyone coming out of the corners with its hybrid system and then hope the non-hybrids are fast enough in the straights to run it down?

They legit said they'll slow down privateers if they are faster than Toyota but not the other way round.

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari
Jochen Rindt already proved that to finish first first you have to finish is a lie.

Toyota have this.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/04/07/toyotas-top-times-at-prologue-achieved-by-running-un-restricted.html posted:

Yesterday until 5:00pm, both Toyota TS050 HYBRIDS were running effectively un-restricted, without respecting the boost or fuel management as per their EoT (Equivalence of Technology).

...

DSC has looked at the times, the fastest lap set by a Toyota since 5pm yesterday a 1:38.142 by the #7 TS050 HYBRID, on its 436th lap. Toyota’s technical director Pascal Vasselon has also confirmed this.

That puts the #7 fifth in the times set since, behind the #11 SMP Racing BR1, the #1 Rebellion Racing R-13, #17 SMP BR1 and #4 ByKolles CLM.

Toyota were blasting the gently caress out of their cooling system to make sure it wouldn't grenade. Actual EoT times are much more close.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Bop is loving dumb

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

Feels Villeneuve posted:

Bop is loving dumb

Yeah, seriously.

Just loving save everyone a lot of time and make it a spec series if you want BoP.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
BTCC never change.

edit: Race 2 just went full BTCC. BTCC turned up to 11.

Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Apr 8, 2018

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
Porsche is taking a modified, insane 919 out to go poo poo on F1's lap records all over the world



no mirrors, no headlights, no fuel flow limit, no hybrid deployment limit, no ballast, side skirts, long tail

rumored to have 1200hp combined

they're estimating 6 seconds faster at Spa than the current outright record

:swoon:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Porsche is taking a modified, insane 919 out to go poo poo on F1's lap records all over the world



no mirrors, no headlights, no fuel flow limit, no hybrid deployment limit, no ballast, side skirts, long tail

rumored to have 1200hp combined

they're estimating 6 seconds faster at Spa than the current outright record

:swoon:

This is entirely my poo poo.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Pablo Bluth posted:

BTCC never change.

edit: Race 2 just went full BTCC. BTCC turned up to 11.

is Rob Collard involved because that is legally required for something to be "full BTCC"

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Porsche is taking a modified, insane 919 out to go poo poo on F1's lap records all over the world



no mirrors, no headlights, no fuel flow limit, no hybrid deployment limit, no ballast, side skirts, long tail

rumored to have 1200hp combined

they're estimating 6 seconds faster at Spa than the current outright record

:swoon:

Bring Back Can-Am Or At Least gently caress BOP

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


That kind of petty poo poo is the kind of thing I want more of in global motorsport.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i054zcP_iXk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZfJVO1VM5k

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

Porsche is taking a modified, insane 919 out to go poo poo on F1's lap records all over the world



no mirrors, no headlights, no fuel flow limit, no hybrid deployment limit, no ballast, side skirts, long tail

rumored to have 1200hp combined

they're estimating 6 seconds faster at Spa than the current outright record

:swoon:

gently caress yes

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2Dnfki-1M

the climb through the gears out of la source is *insane*

E:

WAIT

A

loving

SECOND

2:38 in that video.

It loving has DRS

e: it went the whole loving way through eau rouge with DRS open

:wtf:

MazeOfTzeentch fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 9, 2018

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

MazeOfTzeentch posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2Dnfki-1M

the climb through the gears out of la source is *insane*

E:

WAIT

A

loving

SECOND

2:38 in that video.

It loving has DRS

e: it went the whole loving way through eau rouge with DRS open

:wtf:

lol holy gently caress this own

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



MazeOfTzeentch posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ2Dnfki-1M

the climb through the gears out of la source is *insane*

E:

WAIT

A

loving

SECOND

2:38 in that video.

It loving has DRS

e: it went the whole loving way through eau rouge with DRS open

:wtf:

drat thing sounds like a loving spaceship :getin:

Also ripping through Eau Rouge at loving warp 10 has to be amazing

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit
do this with all the LMP1Hs imo

someone get the R18 out of mothballs

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



an oddly awful oud posted:

do this with all the LMP1Hs imo

someone get the R18 out of mothballs

The R18 was slower than the Porsche though. Audi's diesel fixation didn't make for a really good hybrid prototype. Once Porsche figured out the kinks, Audi didn't stand a chance.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

orange juche posted:

The R18 was slower than the Porsche though. Audi's diesel fixation didn't make for a really good hybrid prototype. Once Porsche figured out the kinks, Audi didn't stand a chance.

It wasn't the 'fixation,' per se - one of the reasons VAG apparently allowed the two brands to compete was because one was diesel and the other petrol. If Porsche wasn't entered in LMP1, you would imagine in 2015 or '16 Audi would've switched back to a petrol engine -- especially with Dieselgate looming. But two VAG brands running the 'same' kind of engine? That wouldn't have worked, from what I recall.

You are right, apparently the diesel engine wasn't optimal at the higher MJ classes -- Audi lagged behind first Toyota and then Porsche in terms of increasing the hybrid power available, and part of that apparently was due to the diesel engine. But Audi couldn't change to a petrol engine, and Porsche were favored, and Audi had the diesel racing car during Dieselgate...means they had to go. Which is a shame, as it didn't sound like Audi wanted to leave, more that they were forced to close shop.

Let's hope Joest and Audi find their way together again for the next set of rules in a few years.

MazeOfTzeentch
May 2, 2009

rip miso beno

dsc posted:

UPDATE 2: Our friends over at Endurance Info have now reported that the Spa-Francorchamps lap record has been beaten by Porsche already, the 919 setting a 1:41.770 today.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Please come to road America.

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

The last R18 that raced was looking quicker than that years 919 once they'd ironed out the issues that had plagued the car for most of that year's WEC. The R18 they'd designed for the season after that is supposed to have been even better.

Audi getting killed kinda sucks, but once Porsche decided they were coming back they were always finished. I really hope they don't put Porsche in F1, but opt to revive the old (Nazi) Silver Arrows rivalry instead.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
I'm still mad that Penske didn't get to use the R18.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007


That's from this DailySportsCar article, and for reference, the fastest lap previously belongs to Hamilton in qualifying last year at 1:42.553. So Porsche is already 0.8 up on last year's World Champion Formula 1 car in qualifying party mode.

an oddly awful oud
May 1, 2008

all my friends are pieces of shit
the speed of the 919 Evo is breathtaking and it's a major accomplishment, but I can't see that record standing after this year's F1 qualifying. those cars are definitely going to find a second over last year

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Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

i like the 919 evo cause it looks just like a late GTP/Group C era car and that whips rear end


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