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Solid Poopsnake
Mar 27, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Beastie posted:

Also great name/title/av.

Thanks. Hard-won medals in a variety of GBS wars.

Anyway, it turned out I was wrong. Whoops!

I haven't gone to the lumber mill yet, I'm just wingsuiting and helicoptering around Jacob's area unlocking the waypoints for easy fast travel when I decide to actually clear that region. Do outposts/setpiece locations not populate until you do the first story mission of a region? I explored what was clearly Jacob's main training camp, and not a soul was around. No outposts on the map, either. Just the outpost at the FANG Center.

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wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

The writing in this game is so atrocious. Every villain is what happens when someone thinks Lex from Batman v Superman was well written and wanted to emulate that. lovely writing combined with the kidnappings make this fucken game an absolute chore to play.

embrace the esc key (or whatever the gamepad equivalent is)

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

wyoak posted:

embrace the esc key (or whatever the gamepad equivalent is)

Hold Circle to say No

Jim Barris
Aug 13, 2009
Ok so the story is dumb, I can live with that. What pisses me off though is that the ending is terrible and not unlike the game developers spitting in my face. God drat.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Jim Barris posted:

Ok so the story is dumb, I can live with that. What pisses me off though is that the ending is terrible and not unlike the game developers spitting in my face. God drat.

The developers came up with the cult as an evil entity but over the course of development ended up thinking the cult should be right and victorious.

If that isn't awesome I don't know what is.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
It actually is awesome in theory, the execution is what kinda stinks.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
There should be a secret ending where Clutch Nixon swoops in with a seaplane and you grapple onto it and fly away while his song plays and you flip Joseph the bird

LEGEND IN HEAVEN
LEGEND IN HELLLLLLL

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

The developers came up with the cult as an evil entity but over the course of development ended up thinking the cult should be right and victorious.

If that isn't awesome I don't know what is.

Well, not victorious, exactly.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Well, I was right. Booted up the game once I came home from work. Kidnapped by Jacob. Do his shooting gallery and then immediately goes into the final mission for him.

So glad I turned it off last night. This kind of poo poo is exactly what I hate about this game.

Edit: Does going into shops sometimes take a few seconds or more to load for you? Sometimes it’s 5 seconds sometimes it 2 sometimes it’s 20.

Beastie fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Apr 10, 2018

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006

the ending doesn’t even make sense. does Joseph want the seventh seal to be broken or does he not. yeah even though I saw it coming that poo poo just left a bad taste in my mouth.

I’m most annoyed at not being able to just put a bullet in Joseph as he’s meandering around monologuing. At least with the others there was some contrived reason, like being drugged or tied up or hypnotized. we’re standing in front of the church and it’s like just shoot this loving rear end in a top hat Jesus Christ. why did I even bring a gun. and after all that poo poo the best ending being chained up in a bunker, doomed to an eternity of dumbass soliloquies is some unearned player-hostile poo poo.

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004

Beastie posted:

Edit: Does going into shops sometimes take a few seconds or more to load for you? Sometimes it’s 5 seconds sometimes it 2 sometimes it’s 20.

It's checking in with the Ubisoft servers to deliver you the latest ~microtransactions~

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Modus Pwnens posted:

It's checking in with the Ubisoft servers to deliver you the latest ~microtransactions~

Only the best American flag gun skin microtransactions :911:

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

The dialogue and characters in general are really dumb and cringey and I hit that esc now whenever I see it. Also the story missions seizing control away from you is obnoxious and jarring compared to the freedom the rest of the game gives you. Yeah the story framework of fighting a cult out in rural Montana would have been fine but the way it was done is extremely hamfisted.

Axetrain fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Apr 10, 2018

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


I killed Jacob by running over and punching him.
A single punch. No bullets or explosions. Wtf.
The resulting cutscene where he is bloody and dying was super weird.

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY
Since people are bringing up killing Jacob...

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Kidnapping:

This could have been really interesting if, as soon as you're marked, it would send escalating threats against you until you finally lost. Make you actually fight for your life against an insurmountable force and make them really feel like a threat.

Instead, the last time Jacob got me I was in a helicopter and my lady just looks down and sees a dart in her leg.
I guess Hurk and the bow lady managed to land it fine but not get captured???

That whole mechanic is like having a bad GM in DnD. Technically they let you do whatever you want but will always force you into a plot point no matter what.

Oh you didn't investigate the castle? Well someone working for the Dead King kidnaps you in your sleep and forces uou inside. No reason he'd know about you and even less reason he wouldn't just kill you.
PLOT!

At least the Seeds believe you're and instrument for their doomsday prophecy. Thry just want to break you into sumbmission to make it happen... but they also think the violence you are causing will lead to their goal so...

this story loving blows.

DOUBLE CLICK HERE
Feb 5, 2005
WA3

Beastie posted:

Well, I was right. Booted up the game once I came home from work. Kidnapped by Jacob. Do his shooting gallery and then immediately goes into the final mission for him.

So glad I turned it off last night. This kind of poo poo is exactly what I hate about this game.

Edit: Does going into shops sometimes take a few seconds or more to load for you? Sometimes it’s 5 seconds sometimes it 2 sometimes it’s 20.


You literally can't use the store if you try to play it offline.

bunky
Aug 29, 2004

Yo, is there no infinite sprint perk anymore? Please tell me that it isn't locked behind the health upgrades. I'm sick of my character getting gassed after like a 5 meter sprint

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DOUBLE CLICK HERE posted:

You literally can't use the store if you try to play it offline.

On what platform? On PS4 I can certainly buy things if I go offline.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


bunky posted:

Yo, is there no infinite sprint perk anymore? Please tell me that it isn't locked behind the health upgrades. I'm sick of my character getting gassed after like a 5 meter sprint

I don’t believe so. You also can’t take someone down with cqc and drag them away in one move.

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

It's actually a merging of player and avatar, once the player becomes aware of the threat of capture and an impending story mission they will become extremely distressed and try vainly to escape their fate. You cannot return to the illusion of freedom, the Seeds are there to remind you that you are trapped in an artificial construct and you are only given the freedom that you are allowed by the game mechanics. You are only having the fun that the game lets you have.

The ending reverses this with an overly artificial "gamey" bossfight that breaks the player free of their connection to this world. Bombs drop and destroy the world, the game is over so there is no need to preserve the illusion. There's nothing left to do anyway so it was always a mechanical wasteland. Your character is captured one last time, forever now. The player stops playing and now has true freedom but your avatar will always be trapped in the artificial world of the game with no chance of escape.

So yeah, its real bad.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Sakurazuka posted:

The lack of rewards for doing, well, pretty much anything is the weirdest thing

They can sell you rewards for real money, why would they make them free?

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Pwnstar posted:

It's actually a merging of player and avatar, once the player becomes aware of the threat of capture and an impending story mission they will become extremely distressed and try vainly to escape their fate. You cannot return to the illusion of freedom, the Seeds are there to remind you that you are trapped in an artificial construct and you are only given the freedom that you are allowed by the game mechanics. You are only having the fun that the game lets you have.

The ending reverses this with an overly artificial "gamey" bossfight that breaks the player free of their connection to this world. Bombs drop and destroy the world, the game is over so there is no need to preserve the illusion. There's nothing left to do anyway so it was always a mechanical wasteland. Your character is captured one last time, forever now. The player stops playing and now has true freedom but your avatar will always be trapped in the artificial world of the game with no chance of escape.

So yeah, its real bad.

It figures this happens when i finally buy into this series. And here I thought Wildlands had story problems.

revolther
May 27, 2008
Maybe Farcry 5 will be more fun with a controller sitting back stoned...

oops, on PC there's a bug where ps4/xbox dpad and triggers won't work. Cool beans.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Mandrel posted:

the ending doesn’t even make sense. does Joseph want the seventh seal to be broken or does he not. yeah even though I saw it coming that poo poo just left a bad taste in my mouth.

I’m most annoyed at not being able to just put a bullet in Joseph as he’s meandering around monologuing. At least with the others there was some contrived reason, like being drugged or tied up or hypnotized. we’re standing in front of the church and it’s like just shoot this loving rear end in a top hat Jesus Christ. why did I even bring a gun. and after all that poo poo the best ending being chained up in a bunker, doomed to an eternity of dumbass soliloquies is some unearned player-hostile poo poo.

He wants to be right, most of all. Every cult leader has that nagging doubt in the back of their minds that they work so hard to erase in their followers, so their followers can reinforce their own delusion.

And yeah, I finally just got around to doing both endings, and hey, *both* are poo poo:

How/when does he drug your companions? I mean, I feel it might've been poetic loving justice to have an entire post-region clear series of "let's take down what's left" missions where your specialists get kidnapped instead of you for once - they could've even made it beneficial to the playing experience by making you use them (so they *could* be kidnapped) simply so they could get their kills and you could get your perks for *having* them kill people. That'd at least explain why they're suddenly Blissed out of their loving minds at the end.

The 'walk away' ending is somehow even worse - sure, start playing "Only You," but before you go full on schizo, have the Emergency Broadcasting System break in to snap you out of it and *explain* why the world's about to blow up (with or without a Trump impersonator giving a 'good loving luck, America - and how about that electoral map huh' message). The nuclear war should happen *regardless*, but playing it out the way you do makes it seem like a fever dream caused by the massive exposure to the Bliss (which they've since said isn't the case).

The "walk away" ending should've been *way* more developed, too. Sure, you're leaving a psychopath "in peace," but you've crippled his cult. He even says in the 'bad' ending that *you're* all he has left. He didn't have time to get his remaining followers (those really small groups of 2-3 wandering the land) to the bunkers (which you blew up and torched). That means you should have plenty of time to get your "people" to Dutch's bunker and be in a much better position to fight him and his zombie mutants in the DLC or Mad Max sequel.

And yeah, playing this with a female character is way creepy, and I didn't see Nick's wife, which means their newborn daughter is dead. Good game, but the shittiest ending I've seen in a LONG time. You can do bleak and hopeless, but at least *write* it well.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Apr 10, 2018

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

They can sell you rewards for real money, why would they make them free?

Modus Pwnens posted:

It's checking in with the Ubisoft servers to deliver you the latest ~microtransactions~

It's cool to drive on in and shitpost like this but have you played the game? The MTX is some of the least intrusive ever, especially compared to Origins. In Origins, if you wanted sweet cosmetic gear, you have to pay a LOT of real money or a LOT of ingame money and ALSO rely on RNG.

In this game you get so much ingame money it's silly (doubly so if you play Arcade at all) and you can always buy exactly what you want. It's not bad at all, unless you take the stance that premium cosmetics just shouldn't exist at all in which case, well, that's a different thread.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
The MTX is obtrusive when its loading screen makes me wait 40 seconds to change my weapons.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

The MTX is obtrusive when its loading screen makes me wait 40 seconds to change my weapons.

That's fair, but on which platform is this happening? On PS4 it's never taken longer than one literal second for me.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

The MTX is obtrusive when its loading screen makes me wait 40 seconds to change my weapons.

You just gave me flashbacks to MGSV. It's been nowhere near as bad here.

Rinkles fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 10, 2018

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

There is no reason for this game to have a real money currency.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:

There is no reason for this game to have a real money currency.

Except corporate mandate.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


precision posted:

That's fair, but on which platform is this happening? On PS4 it's never taken longer than one literal second for me.

I’m on the most power console ever and it will take anywhere from 1-20 seconds. I have pretty awesome internet as well. It’s a pain in the rear end and stupid for it to connect to the store.

Ideally you could segregate the paid stuff into a different store but then you wouldn’t sell anything.

Thanks a lot, rich rear end in a top hat whales.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

precision posted:

That's fair, but on which platform is this happening? On PS4 it's never taken longer than one literal second for me.

Xbox One X Scorpiox EdiXion (aka the most powerful gaming and home entertainment console in history) and pretty good internet, so it drives me nuts.

Sometimes it's instant, sometimes it's a solid minute.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
On PS4 Pro, as precision said, it's literally never been longer than a second for me.

Eyud
Aug 5, 2006

revolther posted:

Maybe Farcry 5 will be more fun with a controller sitting back stoned...

oops, on PC there's a bug where ps4/xbox dpad and triggers won't work. Cool beans.

Working fine here, I use my Xbox controller whenever I get in a vehicle.

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
The ending isn't bad if you decide to just not finish the game ever which is fine with me, just restart and kill bad dudes

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006

im on a launch PS4 and the store always opened instantly for me

Ultimate Mango
Jan 18, 2005

Is the patch that went live the Turkey Nerf(tm) or something else?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Animals almost all go down in a single shotgun or sniper rifle shot, it's only every other weapon that they're hilariously buff against.

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Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


precision posted:

Animals almost all go down in a single shotgun or sniper rifle shot, it's only every other weapon that they're hilariously buff against.

I remember being legit fearful of animals in 3 and 4. They were a force to be reckoned with. They’re quite, sneaky, and deadly.

Now you can just shotgun them all in two shots. I swear it took way more in 4. Almost a mag dump.

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