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Prester Jane posted:In my opinion we seriously need Christians (esp evangelicals) to start calling out Christian dominionism and announcing it in the public sphere. Betsy DeVos is the tip of the spear for Evangelical/Diminionist political ambitions in this country and is actively remaking American Education to be in the image of her twisted view of what Christianity is. We desperately need Christians to start standing up and challenging what Evangelicals/Dominionists are doing to children in the name of their twisted concept of God. They do, no-one cares, because a nice priest saying "Let's all be reasonable" isn't media-interesting.
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Prester Jane posted:In my opinion we seriously need Christians (esp evangelicals) to start calling out Christian dominionism and announcing it in the public sphere. Betsy DeVos is the tip of the spear for Evangelical/Diminionist political ambitions in this country and is actively remaking American Education to be in the image of her twisted view of what Christianity is. We desperately need Christians to start standing up and challenging what Evangelicals/Dominionists are doing to children in the name of their twisted concept of God.
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Isnt there some Armageddon Tin Foil Hat dude that keeps "predicting" the end of the world but when it never happens its always because he claims to have "got the maths wrong"
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CyberPingu posted:Isnt there some Armageddon Tin Foil Hat dude that keeps "predicting" the end of the world but when it never happens its always because he claims to have "got the maths wrong" I believe there may be one or two or a billion of those dudes
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Fallom posted:I believe there may be one or two or a billion of those dudes I meant like one that keeps getting on news shows and stuff.
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Apr 10, 2018 14:46
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CyberPingu posted:Isnt there some Armageddon Tin Foil Hat dude that keeps "predicting" the end of the world but when it never happens its always because he claims to have "got the maths wrong" Yeah, Reverend Richard Wayne Gary Wayne of Indiana 
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Apr 10, 2018 14:46
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Prester Jane posted:In my opinion we seriously need Christians (esp evangelicals) to start calling out Christian dominionism and announcing it in the public sphere. Betsy DeVos is the tip of the spear for Evangelical/Diminionist political ambitions in this country and is actively remaking American Education to be in the image of her twisted view of what Christianity is. We desperately need Christians to start standing up and challenging what Evangelicals/Dominionists are doing to children in the name of their twisted concept of God. That's the problem with dominionists though, they actively want to destroy the (already blurry) line between church and state. I think it's important that said dipshittery gets called out explicitly, render unto Caesar... The last thing we need is more churches in the political game.
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Apr 10, 2018 14:48
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Crow Jane posted:Yeah, Reverend Richard Wayne Gary Wayne of Indiana He must have been letting Kimmy handle the calculations
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CyberPingu posted:Isnt there some Armageddon Tin Foil Hat dude that keeps "predicting" the end of the world but when it never happens its always because he claims to have "got the maths wrong" If there's a buck to be made off running a cult you'll find someone doing this. So forever really.
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Apr 10, 2018 14:49
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WeAreTheRomans posted:He must have been letting Kimmy handle the calculations I mean, "I guess I'm just bad at math" was his defense when he was on trial, and he would've gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling Kimmy 
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Apr 10, 2018 14:53
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CyberPingu posted:Isnt there some Armageddon Tin Foil Hat dude that keeps "predicting" the end of the world but when it never happens its always because he claims to have "got the maths wrong" This is every cult that has ever predicted an exact date for the end of the world, ever, going back literal centuries
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Apr 10, 2018 14:54
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Hamm Hogg loving liberals and their porcine deepstate hollywood crisis actors! 
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Apr 10, 2018 14:59
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Arist posted:This is every cult that has ever predicted an exact date for the end of the world, ever, going back literal centuries You can read "when prophecy fails" for an example and a classic sociology text in one.
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Apr 10, 2018 15:03
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KickerOfMice posted:Hamm Does it still count as deepstate if you like, win Emmys?
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Apr 10, 2018 15:06
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I think my brain constructed it like a back prediction to a known fact. Like it wasn't true because a ghost predicted it, it was true and then additionally it was spooky that a ghost had predicted it in 1890 or whatever. Like I knew MAD and the USSR and the cold war was real so clearly this 1996 thing was real too, and it's weird that additionally a ghost had known a hundred years before. Ghosts know all kinds of stuff, it's true!  But that sounds a lot like the "this is a sure thing" thought process I had back then, too.Young Freud posted:That conspiracy theory documentary poo poo was everywhere in the '70s, and, by extension, '80s UHF television and cable. Yeah, the sad part is this was an actual like, history video that except for that one part was actually interesting - or I remember it being interesting at the time. We watched it in school and I was bewildered how little my classmates seemed to give a poo poo, but this was of course waaaay before anyone explained what anxiety or depression was to me, let alone that I had it and that it affected the way my brain works, significantly. Ah well, at least that's improved somewhat, with people actually talking about meds and therapy and coping mechanisms now.
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Prester Jane posted:In my opinion we seriously need Christians (esp evangelicals) to start calling out Christian dominionism and announcing it in the public sphere. Betsy DeVos is the tip of the spear for Evangelical/Diminionist political ambitions in this country and is actively remaking American Education to be in the image of her twisted view of what Christianity is. We desperately need Christians to start standing up and challenging what Evangelicals/Dominionists are doing to children in the name of their twisted concept of God. Yeah, all those good Evangelical Christians in America 
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Apr 10, 2018 15:09
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Wierd that all those people who instantly pegged Obama as the Antichrist are A-OK with Trump for some reason.
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^^^ It's funny because Trump fits the stereotype of an antichrist way more, including the blind devotion. I remember there were idiots who were against Hillary because of her hawkish nature over the middle east and with Russia. Boy, Trump is just the bastion of peace isn't he?
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Plus I bet he found out they don't have taco bowls in Peru or Colombia.
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BarbarianElephant posted:They do, no-one cares, because a nice priest saying "Let's all be reasonable" isn't media-interesting. Fred Slacktivist Clark is one of my regular reads, not least because he's a good reminder that there are good evangelicals, they're just less noisy than the awful ones. Grand Theft Autobot posted:Yeah, all those good Evangelical Christians in America see above Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 15:13
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Rachel Maddow is gonna need a second news studio at this point.
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Apr 10, 2018 15:14
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Alter Ego posted:Rachel Maddow is gonna need a second news studio at this point. We're going to need a second Yakko song by July
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CyberPingu posted:Isnt there some Armageddon Tin Foil Hat dude that keeps "predicting" the end of the world but when it never happens its always because he claims to have "got the maths wrong" in one of Paul's letters (in, you know, the Bible) he goes "look, guys, you know and I know that the Messiah's coming back within our lifetimes, but let's have some basic social responsibility and perform our daily tasks until then" even if he's being a bit tongue-in-cheek, the people he was writing to / about definitely were not
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morcant posted:Ghosts know all kinds of stuff, it's true! Like my brain split it weird. Like I understood ghosts were likely fake but I thought the event was real and known and the ghost part was just 'wow isn't that weird!" like if someone posted now that a ghost in 1600 had predicted 9/11/2001. Like I distilled down my whole little kid understanding of the cold war into "Oh, it's a thing scheduled for 1996, I get it, that is weird a ghost would know" instead of me thinking a ghost was predicting it and the ghost was correct. Like I read it as the ghost back predicting a thing that had already come to pass (the scheduling of nuclear war for 1996) instead of the ghosts prediction being the war.
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The best people, just the best. Everybody's talking about it. No chaos, just great energy.
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https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/983706177048596480?s=20 In a just world, the religious right would never recover from this betrayal of every moral high ground they claimed to have
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canepazzo posted:Speaking of you know what, good on him he's garbage, but he's garbage that made a correct decision
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Mueller may report his findings just when the elections happen this year. That's probably when a Republican Congress would turn on him when all of Trumps other elected and successfully appointed officials or republican chosen men deliver any evidence from his own lawyers and teams that daddy touched the Russia hard. Because Congress critters, red or blue, have no loyalty except to themselves. If it is convenient - or in the case of a properly armed FBI bombshell being spiked just before an election, except this time its against Trump; well...
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:In a just world, the religious right would never recover from this betrayal of every moral high ground they claimed to have 1. Their overall attitude towards gay people 2. Their reprehensible politics outside of that The Southern Strategy has done more to destroy the American church than basically anything else. They're killing themselves.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:in one of Paul's letters (in, you know, the Bible) he goes "look, guys, you know and I know that the Messiah's coming back within our lifetimes, but let's have some basic social responsibility and perform our daily tasks until then" Jesus says himself that he doesn't know when he's coming back - only the Father knows. I've pulled a number of these types up short by telling them they think they're smarter than Jesus.
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CubanMissile posted:I think somewhere someone mentioned the president is above the law and he took it literally and actually thinks it's illegal for him to be investigated. trump isn't even a twentieth as cool as Gul Dukat
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Hellblazer187 posted:Is this raid the beginning of the end or the middle of the end? Can we have the end soon, please? I think that it's basically the end of the beginning. It's worth reiterating how big a deal this raid was. As Trump's people put it: Cohen was just very publicly treated like a mob lawyer. Everyone involved knew this was going to be national news, reviewed personally by the President, and get attacked by his allies. They had an incredibly high bar to clear even if Trump wasn't involved, and when Trump is added into the mix, then jesus. Take Mueller out, he's already pissed off Trump as much as possible. The other people who signed off on this were: 1) Rosenstein, a Trump appointee who knows that Trump continually considers firing him 2) The head of the DOJ criminal division, likely a Trump appointee 3) The Trump-donor, Trump-appointed, former law partner of Rudy Guliani US Attorney for SDNY who is an interim appointee and almost assuredly will not get the official nomination now. Approving this basically cost him his job. 4) A federal magistrate judge and/or a federal district judge (usually magistrate judges handle search warrants, but they are legally speaking basically just assistants to the district court judge - in a case of this magnitude I think it's possible that the district court judge independently reviewed and signed off on this rather than rubber-stamp the magistrate judge decision). 5) Finally, I don't know how much the NY FBI was included in the decision making here vs. told yesterday morning, but if they were, it's worth reiterating that this office is reportedly very, very pro-Trump and repeatedly sought to sabotage the Clinton campaign and boost the Trump campaign. I don't believe any of those people sign off on this without convincing themselves with the evidence they already have that they could convict Cohen of serious crimes. And I don't believe you get his communications with Trump without each one of those people also convincing themselves that (assuming Trump was a private citizen and could be prosecuted) that they'd convict him as well. And every one of those people knew they'd face substantial political blowback anyway, even if the search uncovered a literal dead body. And they all know the longer a gap between the search and when they bring whatever charges they're contemplating, the more severe that blowback gets and the more likely it is Trump manages to fire key people to try and derail it. Trump just got treated like a mob boss, and his lawyer just got treated like a mob lawyer, very publicly, by a number of people who had every reason not to do that unless they could back it up. Some bad poo poo for Donald Trump is going to go down, and it's going to go down soon. evilweasel fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Crabtree posted:Mueller may report his findings just when the elections happen this year. That's probably when a Republican Congress would turn on him when all of Trumps other elected and successfully appointed officials or republican chosen men deliver any evidence from his own lawyers and teams that daddy touched the Russia hard. Because Congress critters, red or blue, have no loyalty except to themselves. If it is convenient - or in the case of a properly armed FBI bombshell being spiked just before an election, except this time its against Trump; well... I'm not sure October is long enough for him to wrap up the investigation (seeing how wide it's gotten  ) and frankly I'd rather he be a bit less easily accused of naked partisanship.
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It's always bizarre to me that "Evangelical" Christians point to Leviticus to condemn homosexuals but never pay attention to the OT stuff about immigrants and how they should be treated.
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Kavros posted:Related to which, my guiltiest food pleasure is red hot crunchy cheetos. I will eat them until I want to die. Didn't that flavor get invented by a janitor at the company? I've never tried them, but it's a  story
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I'm not sure October is long enough for him to wrap up the investigation (seeing how wide it's gotten Realistically it doesn't end until next year but boy it'd be cathartic and poetic if everything dropped right before the election.
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