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I understood that reference and appreciate it. Man, that was a good movie 
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Oh God it's happening, https://twitter.com/cybrsmoothie/status/983183584663089152 Derek why
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Apr 10, 2018 14:45
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Apr 10, 2018 14:48
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Hahahaha Daddy Derek, no!
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Apr 10, 2018 14:49
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That kid at the end has life figured out.
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Apr 10, 2018 14:51
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The image didn't load immediately, so I thought it was an emptyquote. I'm going to agree with Miki though, that film was great.
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Apr 10, 2018 14:54
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belt posted:I wonder how this guy is still on TV. Does anyone not think he is a giant piece of poo poo? the same reason limbaugh is on air. People hate watch / listen.
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Apr 10, 2018 15:28
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snergle posted:the same reason limbaugh is on air. People hate watch / listen. pshhhh, not enough to be the reason they're still on the air. Painful as it is, they've still got a significant enough unironic viewership to keep around. Even Limbaugh.
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Apr 10, 2018 15:47
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Yeah, turns out people really do like bullies, as long as they bully the people they hate.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:10
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When keeping it woke goes wrong https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/983159952264003584
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Apr 10, 2018 16:20
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Henchman of Santa posted:When keeping it woke goes wrong Eh, she’s not wrong. It is a tragedy but it’s definitely received more attention by being a men’s junior hockey team, aka Canada’s ur-sport. It would be receiving far less if it was women or not hockey.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:32
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Four million dollars in four days, holy poo poo
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Apr 10, 2018 16:41
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Arivia posted:Eh, she’s not wrong. It is a tragedy but it’s definitely received more attention by being a men’s junior hockey team, aka Canada’s ur-sport. It would be receiving far less if it was women or not hockey. Being technically correct in this situation does not make it a smart response. Don't be a whataboutist with dead kids.
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Apr 10, 2018 16:47
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the followup tweet is much more reasonable, though; she specifically says she doesn't want less for these victims, just more for neglected, ignored victims
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Apr 10, 2018 16:56
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Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:the followup tweet is much more reasonable, though; she specifically says she doesn't want less for these victims, just more for neglected, ignored victims Again, that does not make this any more tactful.
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Apr 10, 2018 17:06
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Apr 10, 2018 17:11
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Eh, she's not wrong but it still flies in the face of families that are suffering right now. It comes across as a "Starving kids in another country" moment. I kinda had more to say but eh.
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Apr 10, 2018 17:12
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Apr 10, 2018 17:13
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The Maleness, The Youthfulness, and the Whiteness is one of the dumbest ways I have ever heard something described. (Also the best way to describe boy bands in the 90's)
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Apr 10, 2018 17:22
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It's amusing that conservatives are concerned with what they consider to be the "pussification of society" when it's the exact opposite thing. Society isn't getting weaker, it's getting strong enough to finally turn around and say "You know what? You hosed this up and we are going to fix it! Get out of our way or get trampled!" Every few decades (and increasingly frequently) it happens. Between the 50s and 70s it was "You know what? I like the black kid down the street, and Imma hang with him. We're gonna desegregate because it's a lovely thing you did and we don't like it, and won't stand for it any more." Now it's "Take your guns when we "pry them from your cold dead hands" was it? How long do we really have to wait for that to be a viable option, not long! We're gonna kick you to that old folks home and your gonna live a long life to rub it in, because we're gonna socialise your healthcare! You'll get all the cancer meds and psychiatric help you need, so don't bitch" It's every generation telling the one prior "We are gonna share with you the lives you tried to deny us, and you're gonna like it!" It's not Pussification of the Young, it's Pacification of the Old.
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Apr 10, 2018 17:30
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It's just another crab in a bucket mindset to them. Perhaps something they accomplished was difficult and unpleasant, and they resent the idea that other generations might not have to endure as much to get the same things. So to them the standards have slipped. They believe the sacrifice, abuse, and arbitrary gender roles are necessary to really be accomplished. They also get really defensive about the phrase Toxic masculinity and assume any discussion of masculinity is negative. It never occurs to them that you could be a manly man in a way that doesn't step on the neck of others.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:37
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Here's how ya fix crabs. Toss the whole bucket into a big pot and have a seafood cookoff for the kids!
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Panfilo posted:They also get really defensive about the phrase Toxic masculinity and assume any discussion of masculinity is negative. It never occurs to them that you could be a manly man in a way that doesn't step on the neck of others. I think with most of them, though, it's that they want to step on the necks of others, and if the neck isn't pre-stepped for them by embracing toxic masculinity, then what else can they use?
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Apr 10, 2018 18:46
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BioEnchanted posted:Here's how ya fix crabs. Toss the whole bucket into a big pot and have a seafood cookoff for the kids! Nah man you just need the medicated shampoo.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:58
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Henchman of Santa posted:Being technically correct in this situation does not make it a smart response. Don't be a whataboutist with dead kids. I don’t think you understand the context of this in Canadian society in general. No one’s criticizing Sheldon Kennedy’s (and you’re coming off as an American who doesn’t even know the history with Swift Current) response or the fundraising in general. But there is growing problems with junior hockey as an expression of class and whiteness right now. It’s worth having a conversation about this and what else needs to be done in Canada.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:01
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Arivia posted:I don’t think you understand the context of this in Canadian society in general. No one’s criticizing Sheldon Kennedy’s (and you’re coming off as an American who doesn’t even know the history with Swift Current) response or the fundraising in general. But there is growing problems with junior hockey as an expression of class and whiteness right now. It’s worth having a conversation about this and what else needs to be done in Canada. no, you are not getting it you are not helping
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Apr 10, 2018 19:10
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hawowanlawow posted:no, you are not getting it I feel like you aren't getting it yourself. Yes, a bunch of kids died, the survivors, families, friends are getting support. That's great. This is also a time to talk about problems with society that lead to those events, and part of that is the primacy of junior hockey players in Canadian society. You're coming off like the gun rights people being all "now is not the time to talk about gun control" right after a school shooting. If not now, if not in direct response, then when?
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Apr 10, 2018 19:23
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Arivia posted:I feel like you aren't getting it yourself. Yes, a bunch of kids died, the survivors, families, friends are getting support. That's great. This is also a time to talk about problems with society that lead to those events, and part of that is the primacy of junior hockey players in Canadian society. You're coming off like the gun rights people being all "now is not the time to talk about gun control" right after a school shooting. If not now, if not in direct response, then when? gun control is not the same kind of problem as "junior hockey as an expression of class and whiteness"
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Apr 10, 2018 19:26
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hawowanlawow posted:gun control is not the same kind of problem as "junior hockey as an expression of class and whiteness" Actually, it is, because it's used to paper over issues of class, race, justice, and poverty in Canada. Our Prime Minister campaigning to support Indigenous youth and then going to the Humboldt memorial while the MMIWG inquiry is still in a tailspin is a big problem. Stuff like that. If you don't know what you're talking about with regards to Canadian culture, that's fine, but just stop talking about it then.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:30
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So the crash wouldn't have happened if we didn't let the team comprise of a bunch of well off white men? There's a link between guns and school shootings not a privileged system and a crash that killed its members.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:34
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Ularg posted:So the crash wouldn't have happened if we didn't let the team comprise of a bunch of well off white men? There's a link between guns and school shootings not a privileged system and a crash that killed its members. I didn't say that the crash was directly comparable to a school shooting, but that this goony "no thinking kids dead" response is comparable to the ones Americans give over school shootings. Two different things, don't engage in a bunch of sophistry.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:36
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Slime posted:Nah man you just need the medicated shampoo. I dunno if they're Alaskan king, but they sure feel friggin' huge. / 
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Arivia posted:Actually, it is, because it's used to paper over issues of class, race, justice, and poverty in Canada. Our Prime Minister campaigning to support Indigenous youth and then going to the Humboldt memorial while the MMIWG inquiry is still in a tailspin is a big problem. Stuff like that. If you don't know what you're talking about with regards to Canadian culture, that's fine, but just stop talking about it then. keep fighting the good fight, bud. I'm sure your attitude and choice of battles will get you far. judging by your title, you're already winning people over
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Apr 10, 2018 19:47
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Arivia posted:I didn't say that the crash was directly comparable to a school shooting, but that this goony "no thinking kids dead" response is comparable to the ones Americans give over school shootings. Two different things, don't engage in a bunch of sophistry. No one here is saying you can't be critical of a privileged system and feel grief or sympathy for these victims. But what you're doing is like making lovely hot takes about the recent marches for Gun Control because "Oh it's only because well off white kids got shot this time and a young white man is leading it". You're the one looking at a tragedy and going "Well how can I change the subject?" and it makes you look like an rear end in a top hat. I'm not a local, true, and I'm not all that invested in this. But don't be an rear end to victims, is that so hard?
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Ularg posted:No one here is saying you can't be critical of a privileged system and feel grief or sympathy for these victims. But what you're doing is like making lovely hot takes about the recent marches for Gun Control because "Oh it's only because well off white kids got shot this time and a young white man is leading it". I have heard relevant criticisms about those gun control marches instead of say inner-city Baltimore school violence. But I'm not saying anything to the victims or anyone else involved in it. And there's a lot of different discussions and things being talked about up here in Canada about it (again, go look up Sheldon Kennedy and Swift Current if you don't believe me). No one's being an rear end to victims. Having a conversation on here or on Twitter that's different from "people died, sad" is not actually affecting the victims. If you think the mere presence of a different discussion in a different space is actually offensive, then you're being the right's stereotypical SJW taken to an extreme.
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Was that original tweet not scoffing at the amount of money raised for those victims? Because this is where we started. https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/983159952264003584 That them being white young men plays a role in the amount of fundraising they received. And it comes off as either "You're grieving for the wrong thing" or "You're grieving too much". And that's what I see as being an rear end to victims. To try and tell them that they don't really deserve all the attention and sympathy and support, it's just because they're white or whatever. I will totally concede to the discussion that you want to have. I have absolutely no doubt that sports league tend to have a lot of problems that needs talking about. But it still does not seem like the right thing to do to use a tragedy and its victims as a bounce pad for more exposure. e: And yes I am also taking in the reply she tweeted that's right below what is linked: https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/983160141309767684 But like I said at the beginning this feels very "Starving kids in another country" kinda thing. And makes no mention to try and bring justice and support for what she believes to so many other grieving families and communities. She just seems to be angry that people are grieving for something she doesn't care about. Ularg has a new favorite as of 20:09 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Arivia posted:I have heard relevant criticisms about those gun control marches instead of say inner-city Baltimore school violence. you: why is everyone talking about guns, i want to talk about hockey sticks AND BY GOD YOU'D BEST FOLLOW ME everyone else: stfu you: THERS LITERALY NO DIFFERNECE GUYS 
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Rich white men dying should be the national sport imo. Bring back the Colosseum but make it future tech-bros only.
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Ularg posted:But like I said at the beginning this feels very "Starving kids in another country" kinda thing. And makes no mention to try and bring justice and support for what she believes to so many other grieving families and communities. She just seems to be angry that people are grieving for something she doesn't care about. That’s the exact issue here I think. It’s not starving kids in another country - it’s starving kids in Canada. $4 million would be a lot of money to a reserve or to Northern food programs. It’s really really easy in Canada for people to only focus on white, middle-class issues and problems and use those responses as proof that Canada is amazing and perfect and takes care of everyone. No one in Humboldt, none of the victims of course, are directly promoting this, but it is very distinctly part of a Canadian discourse where white, middle class problems and events are promoted to the exclusion of all else. Everything up here is Humboldt all over right now, and it really does show the disparities of privilege and power in Canadian society.
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T-man posted:Rich white men dying should be the national sport imo. Bring back the Colosseum but make it future tech-bros only. Contestant "Yes I created twitter" Announcer: "RELEASE THE LIONS" Arivia posted:That’s the exact issue here I think. It’s not starving kids in another country - it’s starving kids in Canada. $4 million would be a lot of money to a reserve or to Northern food programs. It’s really really easy in Canada for people to only focus on white, middle-class issues and problems and use those responses as proof that Canada is amazing and perfect and takes care of everyone. No one in Humboldt, none of the victims of course, are directly promoting this, but it is very distinctly part of a Canadian discourse where white, middle class problems and events are promoted to the exclusion of all else. "You're grieving too much!" Got it.
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